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| Quote ="jools"9 from 11 away? Pretty sure that's not correct. We've lost away to KR, Leeds and Wigan. Drew at Magic too.'"
Considering there are 12 away fixtures, included Magic and we have two to play its an absolute impossibility. We've only played 10 away from home this season.
Plus a fortnight ago was the Challenge Cup weekend, Brett didnt play against Widnes that weekend - it was three weeks ago.
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| yeah, we have won 5/10 away games, if you incude the magic weekend then our record away from home is
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| Surely it's including magic weekend
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| Quote ="meast"how do you know that? it's 2 days before the game i doubt the team has been announced yet?
it does appear that Nathan Mason is going to be playing a part as well in place of Mullally.'"
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| Oh dear, I didn't know we could find so many ways to shoot ourselves in the foot, 10 minutes gone and the game could and should have been well in our control, then nip and took but some shocking defence and Leroy really needs to get back to doing what we all know he is capable of, some of his reads and attempts at tackling were awful. after getting back to 34-34 and Saints kicking the re start out on the full, IMO a poor call to kick for the 2, lets get deep in their half, see if we can get over again from 3 or 4 tackles, if not set up a one pointer. Finally a delightful chip over the defence from Danny but a rush of blood to kick on again when the regather was the option deep in enemy territory and another chance for a drop goal. Jeez good job Baloo has no hair cos if he had it would have all been pulled out tonight
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| With my claret and gold specs on I think the better team lost tonight.
Disappointed with result. Not disappointed at all with our play, nor our attitude. We are top 4 potential.
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| Just didn't get our share of luck tonight. Should have put that to bed in the first 20 mins.
No doubt the loss will be grix's fault...
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| Quote ="yorkieboy52"Oh dear, I didn't know we could find so many ways to shoot ourselves in the foot, 10 minutes gone and the game could and should have been well in our control, then nip and took but some shocking defence and Leroy really needs to get back to doing what we all know he is capable of, some of his reads and attempts at tackling were awful. after getting back to 34-34 and Saints kicking the re start out on the full, IMO a poor call to kick for the 2, lets get deep in their half, see if we can get over again from 3 or 4 tackles, if not set up a one pointer. Finally a delightful chip over the defence from Danny but a rush of blood to kick on again when the regather was the option deep in enemy territory and another chance for a drop goal. Jeez good job Baloo has no hair cos if he had it would have all been pulled out tonight'"
To be fair Saints did their own fair share of foot shooting tonight.
10 points ahead with 16 minutes to go and we give 2 stupid penalties which lead to 2 tries and Huddersfield are level.
Until tonight Huddersfield had the best defence and Saints the second best defence.
But it was tit for tat tonight.
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| Agree. Four clean brakes in first half and none made to count. The worst was Hughes ignoring two men on his outside and passing to Grix ankles.
Their first two tries were pure luck. However we did gift them three tries. Roby's dummy run for the full backs hatrick what was Mason doing at the play the ball? Percival's first was shocking and we conceeded another from a stupid penalty from Taai on the 4th tackle.
They should not have had opportunity for a drop goal though as no way to Robinson knock on. Saints players hand knocked it out and even if the ref missed this it went backwards so it should have been play on.
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| Quote ="jools"Just didn't get our share of luck tonight. Should have put that to bed in the first 20 mins.
No doubt the loss will be grix's fault...
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No bad luck in not being well ahead after 10 minutes or so, no bad luck in poor decision making, no bad luck in getting back on top in the last 6 or 7 minutes and still not being able to secure the win, where was the bad luck Jools?
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| I think it was Kopzack at fault for Roby's dummy half run Stella - every now and again his defensive lapses cost us. I agree with yorkie that Cudjoe was poor both offensively and defensively. The ricochet try off Grix legs and the refusal to tackle Percival also had me gnashing my teeth. I wouldn't have been upset with a draw but a defeat is tough to take.
I accept what shadow says about Saints shooting themselves in the foot re: penalties. But feel that saints took their chances and Huddersfield threw theirs away.
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| Quote ="yorkieboy52"No bad luck in not being well ahead after 10 minutes or so, no bad luck in poor decision making, no bad luck in getting back on top in the last 6 or 7 minutes and still not being able to secure the win, where was the bad luck Jools?'"
There were a couple of refereeing calls that went against us.
One positive though is that they never gave up. I was particularly please when Tai spilled the ball and immediately stole it back from Roby in a 1 on 1. Great attitude.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"To be fair Saints did their own fair share of foot shooting tonight.
10 points ahead with 16 minutes to go and we give 2 stupid penalties which lead to 2 tries and Huddersfield are level.
Until tonight Huddersfield had the best defence and Saints the second best defence.
But it was tit for tat tonight.'"
So these two penalties were silly from Saints, true,weigh that up with our errors and like I said in the opening line, we could and should have been well in command after 10 minutes. Tell me this, what would your call have been at 34-34, and Giants kick out on the full. Saints regular kicker hasn't had a shot at goal all night, does he go for two from half way or kick to the corner and 6 tackles.
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| Quote ="yorkieboy52"Tell me this, what would your call have been at 34-34, and Giants kick out on the full. Saints regular kicker hasn't had a shot at goal all night, does he go for two from half way or kick to the corner and 6 tackles.'"
Yes that was a puzzle to me too. At that point I felt that there was a good chance of 6 points with some composed pressure. With 10 mins remaining a 2 point margin didn't seem enough.
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| Baron Greenback I couldn't make game and was watching on TV but was fairly sure it was Mason and not Koppy who fell asleep at marker may be wrong though as was watching in pub with no sound.
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| OK mate I'll take your word for it
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| Quote ="yorkieboy52"No bad luck in not being well ahead after 10 minutes or so, no bad luck in poor decision making, no bad luck in getting back on top in the last 6 or 7 minutes and still not being able to secure the win, where was the bad luck Jools?'"
Some unlucky ball bounces which could have given us repeat sets, juggle from wardle- saints juggled twice and managed to hang on. Some kicks that were just a fraction too long. Wardles head knock...
I also thought it was kopczak that allowed roby to run.
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| Quote ="the stella kid"Baron Greenback I couldn't make game and was watching on TV but was fairly sure it was Mason and not Koppy who fell asleep at marker may be wrong though as was watching in pub with no sound.'"
Good way to watch the game with no sound, I was watching at home, turned the sound off after 20 minutes, no drivel or clinches from the " experts". far more enjoyable, going to contact sky and ask for a reduced fee for a pictures only service.
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| Quote ="jools"Some unlucky ball bounces which could have given us repeat sets, juggle from wardle- saints juggled twice and managed to hang on. Some kicks that were just a fraction too long. Wardles head knock...
I also thought it was kopczak that allowed roby to run.'"
Juggle from Wardle was a risky pass from Danny, it comes off then great, it doesn't then that is the risk 50/50 chance, the head knock for Joe was unfortunate I agree,kicks that are too long again they can go either way, but no bad luck early doors, just poor execution from us
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| Agree now Kopczak and not Madon at fault for Robys break. Also for last two Saints tries can anyone explain why we had Grix and Wood next to each other in defencive line. An accident waiting to happen.
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| It's easy to say now that the 2 points was the wrong decision because you missed and turned the ball over. But at the time I thought the two was the correct call. It was just poorly executed. Was definitely worth the risk in my opinion.
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| For a team that supposedly had the best defensive record in the league, I don't think we've necessarily shown it over the past couple of weeks.
Cudjoe is totally off his game. He missed two straight forward tackles in the build up to Quinlan's second try (amongst a number of others) and his wild shoot out from the line could have cost us another try.
And I don't buy the 'if he'd got the interception, you'd be praising him' argument. Sport at this level is a about fine margins and if you don't nail it, it will cost you.
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| Good game. Good performance. Great attitude. Hard to be too down hearted.
Turning point for me was Brough going for goal. We had scored twice and could of pinned them. Run down the time. Go for a drop goal if we didn't get a try. We scored most of the time we was up there. Poor decision at a crucial time. Something our team need to work hard on.
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| Quote ="GiantMisterE"For a team that supposedly had the best defensive record in the league, I don't think we've necessarily shown it over the past couple of weeks.
Cudjoe is totally off his game. He missed two straight forward tackles in the build up to Quinlan's second try (amongst a number of others) and his wild shoot out from the line could have cost us another try.
And I don't buy the 'if he'd got the interception, you'd be praising him' argument. Sport at this level is a about fine margins and if you don't nail it, it will cost you.'"
He missed two tackles all game. (Same coincidentally as Jerry who only actually made 1) he also bust 4 tackles and was our highest metre maker.........
but hey.... Don't let that get in the way of a good scapegoat.
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| Quote ="AntonyGiant"Good game. Good performance. Great attitude. Hard to be too down hearted.
Turning point for me was Brough going for goal. We had scored twice and could of pinned them. Run down the time. Go for a drop goal if we didn't get a try. We scored most of the time we was up there. Poor decision at a crucial time. Something our team need to work hard on.'"
At the time it was the right thing to do. And we don't know whether brough made that decision or the message came from the coaching staff. If he'd have nailed that kick then game over for saints. No certainty we'd have got in a position for a drop goal or it would have gone over.
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