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| Quote ="saint joe"Mcintosh Mcgillvary. Turner. Wardle. Senior. Gaskell. Frawley Clough. O’Brien. Matagi. Ta’ai. Mellor. Murphy. Roberts. Leeming. Hewitt. English'"
good to see woolford has seen the light on obrien starting again
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"But you take the mick out of Jake. Who has played the most games out of Jake Wardle and Ferguson in the last year??
Woolford didnt say another week with Cudjoe. Last week he said Hull Kr. Yesterday hes saying not long after. We all know how long Woolfords not longs are, could be out for season.
I dont hold much hope for any of of them anymore to be honest, especially Cudjoe and Ferguson. Jake is only 20 so may get over his injuries.'"
jake wardle has had injury problems for years, abit like his brother joe...seems to be following suit.
cudjoe is usually another month not another week
hull kr game is quite a big one now for us, to pull further away from london at the bottom
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| Jake is abducter issue that won’t go away
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| Quote ="djhudds"Jake is abducter issue that won’t go away'"
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| jake 'next week' wardle
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"jake 'next week' wardle
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| Gutsy and no lack of effort, but for me it went to show what a team of journeymen we are. Without penalties or errors from them i don't think we would have been in a position to threaten their line once in the whole game. We have no go forward at all, Taii was clearly only moving at half pace, and other than matagi none of the forwards made any impact at all going forward whilst theirs made metres for fun. Massive credit to Joe Wardle who has been great since he came back for us and did what he does best near the line.
Our kicking game is truly awful, i don't think we put in one decent kick either near the line or out of our own half, neither Gaskell nor Frawley has a good long kicking game, new halves and a couple of props who can actually make yardage or offload next year please.
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| Effort and commitment spot on for 80mins. Defensively we were great, except defending kicks which we are terrible at defending no matter who is on the wing.
Just need 2 more wins to confirm survival and then its season over and build for next year. Keep developing our youngsters and leave the likes of Cudjoe & Uate now to get 100% fit to go next year. Maybe look at giving young Oli Wilson a chance along the way with Kirby etc.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Effort and commitment spot on for 80mins. Defensively we were great, except defending kicks which we are terrible at defending no matter who is on the wing.
Just need 2 more wins to confirm survival and then its season over and build for next year. Keep developing our youngsters and leave the likes of Cudjoe & Uate now to get 100% fit to go next year. Maybe look at giving young Oli Wilson a chance along the way with Kirby etc.'"
A few giving the senior twin a roasting on social media. But honestly did they do any worse than Uate has done under those? Difference is he’s at the end of his career with little improvement to come to his game, the seniors have and will continue to improve their game and are doing as good a job as he has been - for possibly about 100k less.
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| The effort from Louis (I think) for Murphy try was outstanding. Kick return were good too considering they are still only 18/19. They came up against the form wingers of the comp.
Great effort all around, just felt like saints were quicker in the ruck and had a touch more control.
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| I heard people giving Seniors stick also and saying look at them compared to Regan Grace. The Seniors are 4 years younger than Grace. They are going to keep on improving and developing physically. They will be ready made replacements for Jerry and Uate when they retire in 2 years and shouldn't really be having to play this much now. Would be nice to see an all homegrown back line in 2/3 years time. I think we should give Dom Young a full time contact at the end of this year and see how he develops in the full time environment. Young and Jake Wardle could be the replacements for Cudjoe and Turner. Although Sam Wood might fancy his chances, doing well for Batley in the centres.
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| feared a thrashing when i saw the team but so much effort on show lastnight, if they can show that every week we will win alot more games than we lose for the rest of the season.
few calls again didnt go our way but thats par for the course with us.
we had to do so much defending, expected us to collapse last 20mins but didnt.
hewitt looks like a star coming through for us, gone about his business quietly and woolford keeps picking him , can see why.
roberts his usual waste of space , what has happened to darnell too.... another way off since he signed a new deal... we cant afford players to have off days in this team they all need to play 7/8 out of 10 every week to win.
we are a much better team with gaskell in as it showed again and also clough.
few more bodies back for a big game next week now
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| lets hope tom holmes is a good half back and he can partner gaskell in future as frawley just isnt really cutting it at moment
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| Saints may have won but have a very poor performance almost playing one man rugby but our tackling was equal to it.Even Walmsley struggled.Feel Frawley for whom I had high hopes should be given a ticket home. Anonymous once again.
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"feared a thrashing when i saw the team but so much effort on show lastnight, if they can show that every week we will win alot more games than we lose for the rest of the season.
few calls again didnt go our way but thats par for the course with us.
we had to do so much defending, expected us to collapse last 20mins but didnt.
hewitt looks like a star coming through for us, gone about his business quietly and woolford keeps picking him , can see why.
roberts his usual waste of space , what has happened to darnell too.... another way off since he signed a new deal... we cant afford players to have off days in this team they all need to play 7/8 out of 10 every week to win.
we are a much better team with gaskell in as it showed again and also clough.
few more bodies back for a big game next week now'"
More mackintosh bashing
Well of course the full back is always the scapegoat. Coote threw a couple of passes into touch- but saints fans weren’t calling him were they?
Let’s ignore the try saving tackle and skills on show yeah.
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| i have praised mcintosh on many occasions and wanted him to sign a new deal asap
but yes he has had two bad games since he signed his new deal... most fans see that... and yes he is still learning just stating a fact, get over it no bashing.
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"i have praised mcintosh on many occasions and wanted him to sign a new deal asap
but yes he has had two bad games since he signed his new deal... most fans see that... and yes he is still learning just stating a fact, get over it no bashing.'"
No it’s an opinion. Not fact.
A bit like your opinion that mellor “lacks” in defence.
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| Quote ="jools"More mackintosh bashing
Well of course the full back is always the scapegoat. Coote threw a couple of passes into touch- but saints fans weren’t calling him were they?
Let’s ignore the try saving tackle and skills on show yeah.'"
Put simply Mcintosh is not a full back, he is a winger. A full back would not take a blocking position for kicks he would stand back and observe the positioning of the attack so he can defend if ball is not won,
I like Grix and would rather have him as full back but too late now, but if he is teaching mcintosh to take the position he is taking defensively, there is something severly wrong, or is mcintosh ignoring what he is being told?
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| Quote ="Mr Hedgehog"Put simply Mcintosh is not a full back, he is a winger. A full back would not take a blocking position for kicks he would stand back and observe the positioning of the attack so he can defend if ball is not won,
I like Grix and would rather have him as full back but too late now, but if he is teaching mcintosh to take the position he is taking defensively, there is something severly wrong, or is mcintosh ignoring what he is being told?'"
If he was ignoring the coaches I don’t think he’d still be picked every week
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"boring'"
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| Quote ="jools"If he was ignoring the coaches I don’t think he’d still be picked every week'"
difficult to drop someone with no alternatives for that position.
perhaps ignore was the wrong word, forgetting the position he is playing, i.e., keeps forgetting he is not playing on the wing
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| Scott grix could play instead, the seniors also play fullback. But yes I think forget is a better way of describing it than ignore. Yes, I agree he’s not always doing the right things. But FB is the most technical position there is. There’s a lot to do and think about and it needs a good brain. He’s young and still learning the position. And I think that the club switching his position back and forth hasn’t helped
When he gets it right it works!
It’s not usual for your fullback to have more try assists than your halfbacks- so he’s getting it right sometimes.
I think he will get there. I’m willing to be patient with our youngsters as they are the way our club will survive.
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| Quote ="jools"Scott grix could play instead, the seniors also play fullback. But yes I think forget is a better way of describing it than ignore. Yes, I agree he’s not always doing the right things. But FB is the most technical position there is. There’s a lot to do and think about and it needs a good brain. He’s young and still learning the position. And I think that the club switching his position back and forth hasn’t helped
When he gets it right it works!
It’s not usual for your fullback to have more try assists than your halfbacks- so he’s getting it right sometimes.
I think he will get there. I’m willing to be patient with our youngsters as they are the way our club will survive.'"
I agree we need to be patient and these young players will be fantastic for our club moving forward in the next few years. Also people need to give Frawley a break hes still only a young man 23
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| Quote ="Waterloo Winger"I agree we need to be patient and these young players will be fantastic for our club moving forward in the next few years. Also people need to give Frawley a break hes still only a young man 23'"
I can see glimpses of good stuff in frawley- but it’s just not often enough or consistent enough and there’s a lot riding on him. we are in a position where there’s no one to mentor him.
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