Thought he was stood to the left of it, therefore his view was blocked by a Hudds defender but I'm not certain.

I am absolutely certain that Alibert did not award the try and it was the insistence of the in goal judge that gave it. I wiould have to agree that the in goal judge had a better view as he was looking at it straight on. I thought the Giants players were indicating he bounced it down that would have to have been seen by the in goal alibert had a worse position so could hardly over rule him.

Uncle Albert was at the side when Graham scored so was unsighted. The Ingoal judge gave it. I was sat behind the posts and I could not tell if it was a try or not, but as they say "look in tomorrows papers".

Thought Alibert was poor and has been in all the games I have seen him. However he is poor for both teams. He did get the Eastmond "no try" right. As soon as the ball went to Gardner all the Saints fans stood up but I didn't bother. It was a forward pass to him.

Thought Saints were the better team for 60 of the 80 mins today. Your problem was that Brett Hodgson didn't sem to be himself on attack and having Brough and Robbo on will give you problems as both want to run the show.

i thought it was a pretty even game overall, to me we lost it early on when saints scored the 2 early trys we never recoveredfrom them, it was a very similar game to the hull one when uncle albert reffed, for me he is the worst ref in SL , but he wasnt the reason we lost saints imo were the best team just. in fact i think they are the best side weve played this year graham to me was outstanding and we can never handle meli for some reason, for us thought eorl had his best game of year and robbo played well, only thing that annoyed me for us was we seemed to use the kick option too much in the 2nd half and didnt play enough rugby.One other thing for some reason the crowd at home at the moment are very quiet dont seem to get behind the boys much at all lets get behind them more and stop moaning about the ref.

Correct as I previously thought. Just watched it again on Sky Sports News and Alibert was stood to the side and the padding on the post was in his way. He was certainly correct to consult the in goal touch judge.

Grahams try was not a try!! He was tackled and as Alibert was no where near he simply moved the ball after moving the goal post padding convincing the touch line judge he'd got it over, it was so short even the saints near me were convinced it wasn't a try and were as shocked as I was it was awarded!

But yes we were poor we can't blame the ref for our performance but yes he was poor letting Saints get away with loads and yet pinging us for exactly the same thing. Saints fans can't deny that if they do then they really do watch with rose tinted glasses. But again we were poor and Saints wanted it more.

Oh yeah thanks to the Saints fans not as bad as they have been in the past so hats off to the 1724 who drank us dry ate all our pies and robbed our bookies

Good luck for the season.

The irony in this statement is classic.

What did you expect from the plastic scousers?

Whatever! I was actually in with the saints fans and those around me were agreeing with me so whats your problem?

Hudds got away with lots of infringements too, but those rose tinted glasses of yours must be confusing your judgement. Never mind eh.

For me I thought the Giants were poor yesterday and didnt deserve to win the game. I couldnt beleive the difference in the performance against the Leeds game. NB's comments post match were dead on.

This referee has to be the worst in Super League - what is more ironic is you get other fans on here saying ' you lost get over it' etc ala Wakefield fans BUT you know what if you asked any other Super League fans what they think of the ref they would all say the same - he is pathetic. You wait and see which game this guy officiates at over Easter, visit the participating teams forums after the game and I bet you the comments will be pretty consistent with whats on here!.

The problem with this guy is that he can't make a decision - he is forever looking for a bail out from the touch judges and lets face it they are'nt going to do that are they?.

His philosophy seems to be 'oh I didnt see that - look at the touch judge - any clues? no oh ok then.....lets just play on unless its so glaringly obvious' its just so poor and I would go far as saying he spoils games. Any game he refs becomes a lottery to be honest and its about time Cummings had a word or something - I am happy to support referee's and admit they have a hard job however this bloke is downright incompetent.

The guy seems easily intimidated by both players and sometimes the shouts of supporters and its about time something was sorted.

Alibert was closer, you are correct. However, he was the wrong side of the action, so couldnt clearly see the grounding. The In-Goal Judge had a perfect view from his angle, so Alibert was correct to go with his decision.

From my viewpoint, it looked like he was short, but the post was obstructing my view. The In Goal lad was right there on the spot with the perfect view.

All will be revealed on Boots and All with the Giants disallowed tries and the Graham possible no try!!!

We will see what the comments are then and if he got em all spot on then hats off to the buffoon

How did Halibert police the ruck? The refs for the two televised games seemed to be keen for a quicker ptb than previous weeks.

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got it spot on there, i thought the same

my analysis of the game.

us: we were sloppy,failed to win the collisions down the middle but still persisted in trying to go down the middle when it was clear saints were on top,whether it was the conditions im not sure but we didnt seem to play with any expansion and when we did ultimately our decision making (for a change) was wrong, too many wrong options for me and we inevitabley blew the few chances we did create,our kicking game was pretty poor too,again the wind didn't help, especially in the first half,we prob had more missed tackles in that game than we've had for many a game,the 2nd try a perfect example, you cant let a prop run 40 yards without a meaningful tackle against him,which is exactly what graham did, all in all i thought we were pretty poor by our own high standards recently.

them: did the basics right,won the collisions,brought the wide men into play and were quicker around the rucks than we were,again didnt create many chances but when they did they took them,that was the difference for me,however i do think the scoreline flattered them slightly,but thats the way it goes sometimes.

the officials: for me they were poor,i dont think we would have won the game had they been on top form either though,as home supporters we are expected to shout for everything whether its right or not,when your at the game you only get one view of it and so judgement is usually clouded, however though i think saints got the benefit of a few more dubious calls than we did, certainly graham's try looked nowhere near a try from where i was sat,not even the saints fans cheered for a try which surprised me,also they chose when and where to police the offsides but the touchjudges need to help the ref's more,there were many instances when saints defence would move back 7 or 8 yards then as soon as alibert turned away they would sneak up 3 or 4 yards, gidley and eastmond the prime examples.

but all in all saints were the better team on the day and fully deserved the 2 points,no qualms from me over the result,we were 2nd best yesterday.well done saints

Having a leaving party?

Nah - I removed the info I put.

I'm now preparing to be shot down and called like i was at the game but.............the referee's performance had no bearing whatsoever on the result of that game, we were poor and Saints were a class above us in everything, they were stronger, quicker, smarter. cleverer and more composed than we were !
Alibert missed a lot but did so for both sides, like i said to the lads at the back who were giving the Ref some verbals it wasn't him who missed the tackles, dropped the balls, threw the wrong pass etc etc and to be totally honest most of the calls he gave against us were actually the correct ones but some fans are blind and just automatically presume that because he gives a decision against us its the wrong one !
Sometimes i wish some of our fans will actually learn the rules and understand what the penalty was given for and then maybe they wont feel it necessary to abuse the ref after every decision.
sorry rant over

Saints late score actually made the score more reflective of the game .

I must be in a minority cos I didn't think there was much between the teams. We spent more time in their half in attack but failed to break down the defence. We was 12-6 down and scored a try that was called back for a forward pass which would have been ok if wearing a white shirt was anything to go by yesterday. That would have made it a level game with everything to play for. As it happened Saints scored within minutes of this and effectively killed off the contest. So although it sounds bitter I think the ref had a say in the outcome. Rant over, i'll have another Worthington's



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Does anyone remember when Saints passed from the PTB and they knocked on only for Halibut to say we'd got a hand to it even though our marker never made an attempt at it? The whole stand went mental!!!

Quote ="PONNER"I must be in a minority cos I didn't think there was much between the teams. We spent more time in their half in attack but failed to break down the defence. We was 12-6 down and scored a try that was called back for a forward pass which would have been ok if wearing a white shirt was anything to go by yesterday. That would have made it a level game with everything to play for. As it happened Saints scored within minutes of this and effectively killed off the contest. So although it sounds bitter I think the ref had a say in the outcome. Rant over, i'll have another Worthington's P.S Does anyone remember when Saints passed from the PTB and they knocked on only for Halibut to say we'd got a hand to it even though our marker never made an attempt at it? The whole stand went mental!!!'" I am not sure which one you mean but there was the one where saints kinocked on and Alibert was going to give a scrum to us and The saints players claimed Brown got a hand to the ball and he gave the scrum to saints. the whole of the riverside stand went mad at that. The problem was HE WAS RIGHT Brown did tip it forward. If anything the recations of the fans were a sign of desperation and it got to the players and that is why NB rightly was critical of the players for spending their time complaining rather than playing. www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield- ... -26127708/ Our pack got their @rses handed to them by Graham et al. That is why we lost.

Quote ="PONNER"I must be in a minority cos I didn't think there was much between the teams. We spent more time in their half in attack but failed to break down the defence. We was 12-6 down and scored a try that was called back for a forward pass which would have been ok if wearing a white shirt was anything to go by yesterday. That would have made it a level game with everything to play for. As it happened Saints scored within minutes of this and effectively killed off the contest. So although it sounds bitter I think the ref had a say in the outcome. Rant over, i'll have another Worthington's P.S Does anyone remember when Saints passed from the PTB and they knocked on only for Halibut to say we'd got a hand to it even though our marker never made an attempt at it? The whole stand went mental!!!'" I am not sure which one you mean but there was the one where saints kinocked on and Alibert was going to give a scrum to us and The saints players claimed Brown got a hand to the ball and he gave the scrum to saints. the whole of the riverside stand went mad at that. The problem was HE WAS RIGHT Brown did tip it forward. If anything the recations of the fans were a sign of desperation and it got to the players and that is why NB rightly was critical of the players for spending their time complaining rather than playing. www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield- ... -26127708/ Our pack got their @rses handed to them by Graham et al. That is why we lost.

Quote ="Durham Giant"I am not sure which one you mean but there was the one where saints kinocked on and Alibert was going to give a scrum to us and The saints players claimed Brown got a hand to the ball and he gave the scrum to saints. the whole of the riverside stand went mad at that. The problem was HE WAS RIGHT Brown did tip it forward. If anything the recations of the fans were a sign of desperation and it got to the players and that is why NB rightly was critical of the players for spending their time complaining rather than playing. www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield- ... -26127708/ Our pack got their @rses handed to them by Graham et al. That is why we lost.'" I didn't think we were that bad. Raleigh and Crabtree had good games as did Robinson and Lunt, so to say our pack had our @rses handed to us is a bit OTT IMO. We created enough chances in the first half to win the game but on the day the last pass tended to go to ground. We may not been at the top of our game yesterday but i think we'll play worse than that this season and win games. To say we've had 8 games so far and only 2 of those could be classed as games we should have won ie Quins and Wakey, i'm quite happy how things are going. We've lost 3 games so far, 2 of which we've lost with Halibut in charge who was dire in both. The other game was Warrington when Ian Smith was in charge who I thought did a fine job.

Quote ="Durham Giant"I am not sure which one you mean but there was the one where saints kinocked on and Alibert was going to give a scrum to us and The saints players claimed Brown got a hand to the ball and he gave the scrum to saints. the whole of the riverside stand went mad at that. The problem was HE WAS RIGHT Brown did tip it forward. If anything the recations of the fans were a sign of desperation and it got to the players and that is why NB rightly was critical of the players for spending their time complaining rather than playing. www.examiner.co.uk/huddersfield- ... -26127708/ Our pack got their @rses handed to them by Graham et al. That is why we lost.'" I didn't think we were that bad. Raleigh and Crabtree had good games as did Robinson and Lunt, so to say our pack had our @rses handed to us is a bit OTT IMO. We created enough chances in the first half to win the game but on the day the last pass tended to go to ground. We may not been at the top of our game yesterday but i think we'll play worse than that this season and win games. To say we've had 8 games so far and only 2 of those could be classed as games we should have won ie Quins and Wakey, i'm quite happy how things are going. We've lost 3 games so far, 2 of which we've lost with Halibut in charge who was dire in both. The other game was Warrington when Ian Smith was in charge who I thought did a fine job.

Maybe i was a bit harsh but we lost it in the middle of the field. saints won the collisions and dominate dta th eruck. they slowed us down a lot better than we did and apart from a purple patch in the first part of the second half we struggle dto control their big men and put them on the back foot.

spot on !!