That team believed it would lose before they stepped on the pitch.

Since I can only get to Sunday games, that might be it for the season for me. So it's a real shame the players couldn't be d.

Well that was disappointing.
Seems that resilience has gone already.
We were competitive at the start - As soon as sezer went off heads went. Earlyish in that second half when we were pinned in our own half of the field and under the cosh there were two sets when not a single forward took the ball in bar one from joe wardle. A loss isnt a disappointment but their reaction to adversity was.
Four days off was the wrong signal to send I feel. Do t do that again woolford!

Briliant for 30 mins then just self destructed following the high shot and sin binning of Sezer. It was a sin binning but a very high shot on Bruno was missed a little bit earlier with not so much as a penalty awarded. Refs really need to start getting consistent with this. Childs then gave a couple of cheap penalties following the 2nd Wigan try to gift them a 3rd then the 4th try was a great effort from Marshall and that was game over.

We have a distinct lack of pace across the back line and I just don't rate the Jerry and Turner combo i'm afraid, both strong carriers of the ball but both incredibly slow now and you have to question their defence. The majority of tries scored out wide seem to be down Jerrys side in most of our games.

We have 4 players in reality who should be in our first choice back line of Golding, Darnell, Cudjoe and Uate who are injured. Will we ever in reality see either of Cudjoe or Uate again?

Was very impressed with Jake Wardle who looks very threatening and if Cudjoe does some how make it back it should be at the expense of Turner and not Jake who is our best centre now.

Would both Jake Wardles effort and Gavets ball on the line effort have been awarded a try if it was Wigan in the same position from Childs?

Think Woolford also made a big mistake letting the players have 4 days off following the KR win. Should have been 2 days off then back in on Monday, not Wednesday. Especially players who have missed most of pre season.

Got what we deserved today nothing, shows how much we already rely on sezer, as soon as he went off we collapse and our backsides fall out as we didnt have anyone leading, correct call too so no point whinging about the ref.
Credit to Wigan though they hammered us on the edges and full ydeserved their win.

Think all the media stuff about us not playing anyone yet and this been a proper test must have got to the players and made them question themselves very dissapointing after the superb 3 away perfomances

Turned out as i feared, It would be the Wigan backs that skinned us for pace. That was so disappointing, We created plenty of chances first half up until Sezer went off, from then on we were just not up to it, That was a superb solo effort from marshal, don't know where the full back was.
Once again the hooker was completely shot on about 50 minutes ( not surprisingly ) and that didn't help at all, Still it tells us where we are in reality and not all teams are as good as wigan though the next game won't get any easier, Forwards didn't do too bad till the capitulation but early days yet, we will do better.

As we suspected we have improved from last year but not by as much as we hoped.

No team will survive 10 minutes with 12 men if you concede four penalties and don’t touch the ball.

At 10-14 we were going in behind perhaps you could say undeservedly so but great try as it was you have to scratch your head and wonder where the full back was. At Salford the late burst by Sio was countered by Darnell being where he should have been.

Then to concede again off the back of a 40/20 within 2 minutes you could see the petrol pouring out of the tank.

It’s not the time to over criticise individuals but in that first 35 minutes once again our inability to turn pressure into points bit us up the back side.

35 minutes on top 10 pts 45 minutes on top 42pts.

It was noticeable down our left edge that as Sezer at times broke across the line, we seemed to lack the pace or failed to run the lines to go with him something that Wigan did really well to our cost.

With all due respect I expect to lose at Saints but at the start of the season I’d have taken 4/10 and we will likely go into the Cup with 6/10 so no panic just yet.....

the full back was in the defensive line because we were down to 12 men.....

I guess that's the point though - DM should not have been in the defensive line.

He should have held his normal FB position and the kick-off should have been into the corner.

It doesn't need 12 men to defend across the pitch from a KO.

First play the ball from the kick off the FB should have stayed back they went short side had the FB been in that side of the field he would have been able to get the winger when he slowed to pick up the ball or at least pressured the winger.

As the other ‘poster’ said there was no need for the full back to be in the defensive line with a minute or so to go to half time as the off the cuff kick play was the one we had to cover the alternate was a couple of passes and drive... Wigan would not have thrown a silly pass at that stage under their posts the chip over was almost a play to nothing.. brilliant for them as it came off but no risk if it didn’t

So would it be true to say that in your opinion your just a one man team, and will struggle without Sezer?

We would absolutely struggle without Sezer, We did struggle without him, and we need another hooker Simon.

Wigan were so much faster than us it was a bit embarrassing but they will beat most teams playing like they did, We managed to keep some of their danger men quiet for the most part but being honest we were completely shot by 60 minutes, still onward and upwards, bring on the Saints.

That last try of the first half was a planned move. After Hardacker had converted the previous try I saw him talking to the ref on his way back to half way. It was obvious he was asking how much time was left because the ref pointed to the game clock 2/3 times, there were 31 seconds left. Hardacker then had a quick glance at the winger and the rest as they say is history, this time it came off on any other day it might not have. With 13 men in the defensive line and 16-10 up the automatic choice is to drive it in for a couple and take the hooter. The winger had nothing to lose and good luck to him it came off this time. Doesn't excuse or explain what happened to the capitulation in the second half, every time Wigan had the ball I really 5hought they were going to score. Lots to be learned from this disaster.

Sezer cleared to play. Matagi has a one game ban.

We can analyse and dissect the game the rest of the week but it won't change anything
Bottom line their attack and defence were played at a pace much faster than ours and we just couldn't match it!
No amount of coaching or tactics can make a player "run faster" Sadly the sooner some fans accept that and stop taking cheap shots cos we lost to a better team on the day and we do the best with what we've got the better IMO
Personally was looking forward to a good close tussle but it wasn't to be! Just a bad day at the office - end of!
The true test of the teams resolve and backbone will be revealed Friday - but they'll still not be 100metre Olympians whatever happens! No substitute for natural pace!

From what I have seen of Wigan this season so far it has been their best performance and not many sides would have beaten them on Sunday.

No, its not disrespect. Players lose their legs as they get older, it happens in most sports.

Jerry once upon a time was quick and his speed coupled with his power meant he burst tackles for fun, similar to Naulogo of Hull in recent times. Since the World Cup hes lost quite abit of pace and its very noticeable and hence why he doesnt bust tackles like he used to. Jordan Turner used to have pace but since hes bulked up more over the last couple of years he too has lost pace. Both Jerry and Turner struggle with players with pace - our right side is the weakest edge (defensively) by far if you look at all 4 games this far.

Completely agree, and i also agree with what Crackerjack said, they were different league to us as far as pace goes. Down the left ( our right ) they looked capable of scoring every play on that side but then that has seemed to be our weakest defensive area for quite some time.
Early days yet, we will improve from that, I think there are only possibly 4 sides that can play at that level and they can't do it every week, Like crackers says we won't learn to run any faster so we have to learn to think faster.
I expect Saints to beat us as well being realistic but we have every chance to show we are not going to crumble, We have a much better squad than last season and i'm hopeful we shall do ok. after the last few seasons staying out of the relegation zone will be a big step forward, so onward and upwards, We don't play Wigan every week.

Got to say I'm pleasantly surprised by the numbers on here praising Wigan rather than the usual responses you see from most fans. Shows real class. Good luck for the rest of the season (and especially next week!

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Huddersfield fans are not your typical rugby league fans. When i was a kid and got taken down to see Fartown by my Dad and Grandad i got taught that you clap for both teams when they show a superb bit of skill, and i still do that to this day. That can be good and bad, you will not find Huddersfield fans getting on the back of the ref for penalties at home (unless there is a very serious and obvious injustice in his calls) like happens at most grounds and this often costs us easy penalties (because as we know that constant complaining always eventually pays off). Apart from the cowbell you will not find the crowd volume that you find at other grounds, because the fans are not the type to sing for singings sake! I put it down to the fact that we are one of the few teams with a big football club in the town that draw off most of the undesirables that in many towns watch their Rugby team. Again, this is a curse in that those fans still pay their way through the turnstiles and we lack them.

Glad we could help you out this week!

Got to say that most of the time we're bemoaning the lack of effort/commitment /fitness/skill levels of our own team rather than that of the opposition. We can definitely see an improvement this season so don't know what happened to our resilience against Wigan. We ought to have given you a much sterner test last week but no one can put the finger on exactly what goes wrong in them situations. I had a quick look on your board and was surprised to see one of the posts saying how much the guy disliked Huddersfield Giants and that we are all that is bad about Rugby League at the moment ? Don't really know why but he's entitled to his opinion and no matter what you say to people like that they aren't going to change their view. I personally think we've as much to give to Rugby League as any other team.

One of the problems the club has had over the years has been showing too much respect to players who are towards the end of their careers. We kept Brough on for two years too many for example.

Jerry has been a genuinely great player for us, but he's nearly 32 years old and still has three years left on his contract.

Its important to create a nurturing and supportive culture for the players, but it cannot come at the cost of putting off hard decisions. Avoiding reality does nobody any favours - including the players involved.

It's got more to do with playing in a stadium that's three times too big imo. Theres never going to be much of an atmosphere until you get a crowd up past 10k. If you get past 20k, the atmosphere is electric At 5k, it's not great.

If I won £150m on the lottery we'd be out of that ground and into a purpose built 13k stadium in a flash. Preferably at Fartown!

i disagree as i just think our crowds are not the supporting type and prefer to sit in silence until they think the ref has cheated then use there voice to bag him i dont think it matter hows many are there its more to do with the type of supporters we have and thats why away games are best cos those who go go to get behind the team rather than just watc the game

I think those at the back are much quieter at home regardless. They don’t agree, and they don’t want to move so they can be heard better as they want to stand for sone strange reason but it’s true. Last week Example-since we’ve had the kids we’ve sat in the family stand. This year My lad had begged to get a ticket at the other side so he got one- (we stayed at other side where weve sat for 15 years) so he went over on his own and when we met him after the game he commented “they don’t sing like they do away”. Now ok we did suffer a bad loss- but we were in the game for 35 minutes.

It's quite hard to feel part of a crowd when the next person in s 25 feet away.

There's nothing intrinsically quiet about Huddersfield spectators, they're just too spread out to behave like a crowd.