Yet if the next few performances and results continue in the same vein as thursday it’s Stone who will pay and the next man in will be left with mediocrity ( Smith Gaskell etc ) on long term deals.

For what it’s worth I agree that Stone is a decent bloke but def not a winning coach ( see his record) but I can’t see anyone decent wanting to work under the present regime. We need total change and quick

But stone has stated- more than once- that he decides who is signed not thewlis. So someone is lying. Either stone. Or the person, who told the person, who told the person, who told you.

Can stone come out and say I don’t want that player here? He has to work with them and get the best out of them, thewlis has always signed the players, coaches have a wish list they bring to him and if they really push a player eg Mamo they get them but that’s few and far between

From an outsider's perspective signing a bunch of players that failed with us wasn't going to help your cause.

worked well when we said nathan brown was leaving at the end of the season!

yep thewlis has more of a say than some of us think

and is very friendly with ken davy so nothing will change.

called for thewlis to go a long time ago.

i actually feel sorry for stone, comes across as a really nice bloke and over here without his wife and kids who are back home in oz cant be easy, that said if we dont make the top 8 or are out of reach at any point in the season mathematically then he has to go.. we will see how the players respond in the next few games

I wrote this back in 2016, funny and disappointing how it is all still so relevant...

'While it's brilliant seeing how far the club's has come, it is something that many of us are fed up of hearing. I think the problem is that we build ourselves up, and probably over achieve given the finances, roster and support. But at the end of the seasons it's the same failings, despite the media hype and saying how we have learned and we will be better and won't repeat our mistakes.

I think the frustration of some comes from wanting us to take the next step, and believing that we are capable. But being let down by fundamental problems and mismanagement.

It's great how far we have come as a club, but it appears that it's a matter of time where we can no longer over achieve and other teams around us fulfil their potential, and this is frustrating, because it would feel like an opportunity squandered to really kick on.

There appears to be a split between the fans who are happy to enjoy the ride while it lasts, and those who believe we can achieve something with smarter management and persistence. To me, it's a waste of Daveys time and money to accept the former.'

If we could see this 2 years ago why can't the people who can influence it. 2 years of regression...

Stone will have been here over two years at the end of this season " if he lasts that long, yet his wife and family are still in Oz, doesn't strike me as a man who is intending to do a decent stint. If his wife and family are over there no wonder he plays golf every day.

stone wants to stay

Was hoping he wouldn’t.
Still not one person has managed to tell me a single way he’s improved our team.

Would agree with you. The obvious play is that his future hangs by the next few results, cant see him getting a new deal if middle 8s are where its at, it will be new coach time to try and lift the troops to survive again which is as good as it will get with how the club is being run.

there you go.

the club knew stone was going, so whos been making the decisions on the new deals.....

Brearley give it a rest. THEWLIS DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS ON WHO TO SIGN. THE COACH DOES THIS.
Successive coaches have said so, mr thewlis has said so, even ken has said so. Did they all lie? What evidence -at all- do you have to the contrary?

Did the club know he was going, perhaps they hoped he’d improve something, anywhere. , more importantly did stone know he was going? Appears not.

Ok Jools you know more than anyone but let me tell you for the last time the only 2 players Stone got he wanted were Mamo and Wakeman, Anderson before him wanted Ferguson but got Gaskell and clough thrown in for good measure, Anderson didn’t want Breierly but got him, thewlis has all the power and is hated by the players and staff, even if he does buy some sports memorabilia at a dinner event, keep changing the coach but not much will change as he brings the players, he sets the wage etc

some of us arent as naive i guess

all seem to have the same agents too... shuttleworth... bestie mates with thewlis?!

You contradict yourself, brierley for instance does not have Greg Shuttleworth as an agent.

So again I ask you- yet again- what evidence do you have that what you say is true?

Some exceptions to the rule and how do I know? because I see it every day when I turn up , I could say lots more but I won’t the reason I post is when I see people so wide of the mark and they need to know where the faults lie

was referring to the bradford players

some people know more about it than others

I know that Roche, Mellor and o’brien don’t have shuttleworth as an agent. They are with SMTM. Not sure about the rest. But your conspiracy theory is falling down round your ears....... along with the tin foil.

So basically you don’t gave any evidence to back up your claims. Until you provide me with any I’ll file it under fake news.