with the late signing of obrien i now put him at hooker as our number 1 interchanging with leeming

hinchliffe to loose forward

cant see mellor getting in the 17, gaskell give the number 4 shirt so him at centre and murphy on the wing, dropping ormsby.

lawrence to drop out or to the bench , we need a squad so he will get his games.

some bulls fans seem to think we will be all bulls players now?! but as far as i can see only 2 or 3 will get in the 17 ...obrien, gaskell and ferguson

You'd put a 23yr old hooker with no SL experience before a 21 yr old with a couple of years experience? Based on what? Age? Not sure I'd agree with you there. Neither should we be peeing off our hone grown players especially as he can walk away without us getting a fee a la Connor.

O'brien has SL experience doesn't he

And he has international experience too

True - I remember him playing against the Giants.

o brien and leeming can interchange, calm down.

ive seen o brien play before against us too so he does have sl experience and got dragged down to the championship like ferguson/gaskell with relegation.

Fair enough- but why was he still there? If he was that big a Bulls fan will he put the same effort in for a rival team?

hes been with the bulls since a being a kid, id like to think some of our players stayed with us has we been relegated last season dont you, show abit of loyalty to your club and all that, hull kr players havent all just suddenly left have they

But this is not the first time Bulls have been in this mess- I get he may be loyal that's great but does that mean he will play as well for us- look at Reilly!

send him back to bulls with gaskell, ferguson and mamo to newcastle whilst at it

Sack it why dont we do a trade with Wakey O Brien, Mamo, Mellor, Gaskell, Ferguson all for Scott Grix??

Thought people would be happy with a 23 old hooker who is a good standard? Apart from Kruise we have no other hookers up and coming. Very good signing. If Kruise gets injured what happens without O Brien?

Well that didn't take long.....new signing..great...hooker...great...young with senior experience...great...highly rated...great....but this is the Giants so let's have a whinge!!!

I agree he's a solid player and may have prospect- but people get all excited like we've signed Cameron smith....

People get a bit excited because O Brien is a young homegrown player who has SL experience and could improve and prove to be a great signing. With no quota spots available he was probably the best available hooker available to us.

My team would be if all fit:

1. Mamo
2. McGilvarry
3. Cudjoe
4. Gaskell
5. Murphy
6. Brough
7. Brierley
8. Rapira
9. Leeming
10. Wakeman
11. Symonds
12. Taai
13. Hinchliffe

14. Mason
15. Ikahihifo
16. Roberts
17. O Brien

2nd row cover and rotation: Lawrence, Ferguson, Liam Johnson, Mikey Wood - Think we will probably see Liam and Mikey play for Oldham on dual reg.

Prop cover and rotation: Paul Clough, Tyler Dickinson, Daniel Smith & Matty English - Would expect Matty English to be loaned to Oldham.

Centre cover: Sam Wood, Jake Wardle, Alex Mellor - Wardle may spend time at Oldham

Wing cover: Ormsby

FB: Darnell & Jared Simpson- Think Simpson will spend a lot of time at Oldham

Cant see why we would try sign Ben Kavanagh - unless it was a 1 year deal on peanuts but surely its going to affect the development of Mason, Smith, Dickinson?

Think we have quite a well balanced squad now if a 2nd rower gets injured we have 2 immediate replacements ready and waiting.

Mason/ Smith/ Clough I expect to all be a similar standard so good for rotation.

Mamo
McGillivary
Cudjoe
Gaskell
Murphy
Brough
Brierley
Rapira
Hinchcliffe
Wakeman
Symonds
Taai
Lawrence

Ikahihfo
smith/Mason/Clough
O Brien
Ferguson

O,Brian is a good signing.

Hull fans, Leeds fans all wanted him.

He is one of the few players Bulls fans wanted to keep.

Thank god we have brought in hungry players and moved on some lard s.

Other than what happens at centre I am pleased with the comings and goings so far this season.

Totally agree. Last year all I heard on here was the need for a massive squad overhaul. Now it has happened people are saying what about the youngsters. Rugby is a squad game you need at least 25 players over a long season and the more the better. I also have no issue on getting rid of any of the departed players.

you got a season ticket this season?

Nope. Cannot get to Friday games.

Just another piece of collateral damage with RL selling its soul to sky

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I wasn't totally sold on the first three Bulls players but happy to see what RS can do with them, These youngsters and the two Aussie signings i am more than happy with, I am just looking for a season of improving this time, anything better is a welcome bonus, We could have a nicely balanced side that will surprise a few good sides. Like you i have no issue with any of the players who are gone, in fact i was calling for a clear out for some time, none of them were going to improve, we now have quite a lot of players who could improve greatly.

My Grandson will miss half the home games due to shiftwork, totally miffed off.

Correct DG, I don't mind a game on Thursday or Friday for sky,but why can't the rest play at weekends? It's crazy.

Because we get better crowds and sell more corporate deals on a Friday

How do you know when it's never been any other way?

Over the last 15 years the avg attendance in SL has been around 9/9500

who's to say, that it wouldn't increase if there was more weekend games.?

The same goes for corporate.

mamo

jerry
cudjoe
gaskell
murphy

brough
brierley

rapira
leeming
wakeman
symonds
lawrenece
hinchy


obrien (interchange hooker)
seb (interchange prop)
ferguson (rotate him with hinchy and move lawrence to loose)
taai (interchange prop)

the rest will get there chance when injuries come along, think we have a good squad n if the key players keep fit most of the season we will go very well. For the record i do rate oli roberts but his chance will come again was a hard choice leaving him out. Also picked my team if all fit and available as i know mamo probably wont be ready until march time and gaskell is always an injury doubt.