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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"What if this is something we've done for years ?? Was it ridiculous when we were a good side ??
Can't believe the things our fans find faults with ( when we're losing )'"
Same things the fans at other clubs do Daz, it's called human nature pal.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"What if this is something we've done for years ?? Was it ridiculous when we were a good side ??
Can't believe the things our fans find faults with ( when we're losing )'"
What if it isn't.
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| Quote ="jools"Why is it ridiculous? Why should it cost them unnecessarily? maybe -given it was the week after a busy Easter weekend the decision was made to allow players time to have lunch with their families! If it was a game in Lancashire it's still different- they wouldn't be making an unnecessary journey! Whatever the reason it isnt a reason for our table position!!!
Bad egg????? Oh joy- more rumours ........
This happens all the time, other clubs do it - no big deal.'"
I can only assume you are being obtuse.
On another thread you are arguing how team spirit has been affected by the ferres debacle.
If that is the case then re building that team spirit should be a priority.
At least the coach should show he is a bit more motivated and get to Huddersfield to meet the majority of the players.
In situations like this you need to be building team spirit and bonding.
Of course this is not the reason we are in the league position but it does illustrate that there potentially is an issue.
As a manger you need to employ man management at all times to kepp the team motivated.
Different aproaches all the time.
It is very easy for a team to switch off from a manger who says and does the same thging all the time. It is a bit like a parent who shouts at their child all the time it will work and then they will be motivated but then it wears off.
If it is somethging the players have done for a long time then trying something different might be an idea.
If the players see it as a rewrd changing it so they know that things are changing if they are not performing is a good idea.
I have seen nothing about Anderson to suggest he has different motivational skills.
If he presents to the players as he does to the press then that cannot be good.
Either he tries something new or someone else comes and tries something new because what we have is not working.
And other than you Believers most fans dont see anything positive likely to happen.
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| I don't have a strong view on Anderson staying or leaving. But I do wonder who would be available to step in if he were to go. I can't think of anyone who would be both available and willing to come.
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| To quote Jerry McGillvary......"people need to stop writing nonsense.....the fact is we are not playing well and we know we aren't, that all there is to it !"
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"To quote Jerry McGillvary......"people need to stop writing nonsense.....the fact is we are not playing well and we know we aren't, that all there is to it !"'"
There's a big difference between nonsense and concern.
So it's nonsense the team are bottom of the league ? Nonsense we will be in the middle 8's ?? nonsense the squad is light ?? Nonsense we will be playing to avoid the million pound game ?
Nonsense that none of the loan signings we have made appear to solve the current issues we have ?
Tell you what Giant Daz lets have a bet if we win 2 of our next 3 I'll admit I've had it totally wrong and toe the company line but if we lose 2 from 3 or more you get a reality check and stop this only the team club and certain posters have it totally right theme. There's a lot think they don't. DEAL ??
PS humble pie I would love to eat sat on 8pts in 3 weeks time
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"I don't have a strong view on Anderson staying or leaving. But I do wonder who would be available to step in if he were to go. I can't think of anyone who would be both available and willing to come.'"
That is a point I admit ! but I would take a chance as things could not be worse at the moment. It would be handy if some relatively unknown Aussie was to announce he was willing to pay his own fare to get a chance.
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"I don't have a strong view on Anderson staying or leaving. But I do wonder who would be available to step in if he were to go. I can't think of anyone who would be both available and willing to come.'"
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| Don't be surprised if Brough still goes, in his own words he wants to leave, does not get on with Anderson and vice versa, from a source that has never let me down and was told from the horses mouth, they speak regular as he used to work with the Giants. The rest of the team may or may not hold him in a high opinion, so much has gone on recently and I personally think they don't, he looks a beaten man because I think he does not have the side behind him, one defence goes then it is a sure sign they are not united and not playing for him or each other, it is more than a dip in form.
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| Quote ="ollie35"Don't be surprised if Brough still goes, in his own words he wants to leave, does not get on with Anderson and vice versa, from a source that has never let me down and was told from the horses mouth, they speak regular as he used to work with the Giants. The rest of the team may or may not hold him in a high opinion, so much has gone on recently and I personally think they don't, he looks a beaten man because I think he does not have the side behind him, one defence goes then it is a sure sign they are not united and not playing for him or each other, it is more than a dip in form.'"
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| Was interesting watching the Catalan v KR game yesterday. Cats had all the possession in the first 10-15 minutes of the game,KR weren't allowed in the game-. Same as our game against Salford- very different outcomes. A couple of those "held ups" given as tries and perhaps a different outcome for us too. We've had a lot of bad luck so far this year-(and yes poor decision making) but let's hope we've had our lot of the bad luck and we get some good luck to help us out tonight! Brough with a big point to prove.
These lads are trying- none wants to be in a losing side. COYG!
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| They might be trying but I am not sure they are playing for the coach.
If that is the case it is hard for individuals to do anything to pick up the teams performance. But we shall see
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"They might be trying but I am not sure they are playing for the coach.
If that is the case it is hard for individuals to do anything to pick up the teams performance. But we shall see'"
?? If they are trying them how are they not playing for the coach? (Cause if they think they know better they must see it's clearly not working!!!)
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"They might be trying but I am not sure they are playing for the coach.
If that is the case it is hard for individuals to do anything to pick up the teams performance. But we shall see'"
So, if they try hard it's not for the Coach but if they don't try hard it's because of the Coach?! So basically whatever happens the Coach can't get any credit...do you work hard on coming up with different ways to express the fact you want Anderson out whatever our results?
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| It is quite simple folks. The players in their mind are trying BUT we do not have players who individually are good enough. They live or die as a team. We are only good if all 13 are playing together as a team.
To work as a team they have to be listening and playing as the coach wants them too. I dont think that is happening. Defence is a key area where you can see if a team is playing as a team. Our defence is shiite. In attack an individual can do something special so not always about the team
Anyway tonight will maybe show us who is right.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"It is quite simple folks. The players in their mind are trying BUT we do not have players who individually are good enough. They live or die as a team. We are only good if all 13 are playing together as a team.
To work as a team they have to be listening and playing as the coach wants them too. I dont think that is happening. Defence is a key area where you can see if a team is playing as a team. Our defence is shiite. In attack an individual can do something special so not always about the team
Anyway tonight will maybe show us who is right.'"
So if they are not listening and playing as the coach wants them to -and as a result they are losing, you'd think they'd start listening....... Surely that's the players at fault not the coaches.
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| Quote ="jools"So if they are not listening and playing as the coach wants them to -and as a result they are losing, you'd think they'd start listening....... Surely that's the players at fault not the coaches.'"
No Jools what it means is the coach has lost the dressing room.
We will not win another game whilst Anderson is coach.
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| Quote ="jools"So if they are not listening and playing as the coach wants them to -and as a result they are losing, you'd think they'd start listening....... Surely that's the players at fault not the coaches.'"
You change the blame every week Jools if the worst happened and we got relegated I guess it wouldn't be anyone's fault !!
The heads down points to Andersons loss of the dressing room but what will be will be it's far more than just not listening there's too many good layers for that.
For the record I agree with Giant keep the coach lose the matches
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"No Jools what it means is the coach has lost the dressing room.
We will not win another game whilst Anderson is coach.
End of.'"
You are making an ASSUMPTION here that the players aren't happy with the coaching then? But they were last year, and the year before, and the year before that? So why have they suddenly decided they don't like him?
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| Quote ="jools"You are making an ASSUMPTION here that the players aren't happy with the coaching then? But they were last year, and the year before, and the year before that? So why have they suddenly decided they don't like him?'"
Anderson has clearly said the coaching methodology was changed this season to make us quicker and to allow us to attack with more pace and venom. He said we were too one paced last year and that's why we got mullered at Wigan in the play offs.
That change clearly hasn't worked, there appears to be no Plan B and everyone's frustrated with what's happening.
So only this season is relevant as the previous methodology was working a lot better.
So Jools he didn't make an assumption the facts are based on performance and results Paul Anderson has clearly got it way wrong but can't find a resolution as he cant change back to the previous years methodology as the people have gone so only this season has any relevance to the way we are playing.
We ain't got no pace our tackling is shot and we cough up more easy ball and get dominated around the ruck more than any other team.
The change was not a good one and I can't see who else is to blame !!
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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"Anderson has clearly said the coaching methodology was changed this season to make us quicker and to allow us to attack with more pace and venom. He said we were too one paced last year and that's why we got mullered at Wigan in the play offs.
That change clearly hasn't worked, there appears to be no Plan B and everyone's frustrated with what's happening.
So only this season is relevant as the previous methodology was working a lot better.
So Jools he didn't make an assumption the facts are based on performance and results Paul Anderson has clearly got it way wrong but can't find a resolution as he cant change back to the previous years methodology as the people have gone so only this season has any relevance to the way we are playing.
We ain't got no pace our tackling is shot and we cough up more easy ball and get dominated around the ruck more than any other team.
The change was not a good one and I can't see who else is to blame !!'"
He has made an assumption he's assumed that Anderson has lost the dressing room -that the players are unhappy with PA and his systems. if a player has said as much then fair enough- otherwise it's an assumption.
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| Reported today and repeating what I said in an earlier post above, something has to give as there is a lot of unrest at the Giants at the minute and it is not just Brough either
But a source tells us that the conflict is between Brough and coach Paul Anderson. The two strong-willed characters don’t see eye to eye, with Brough losing the captaincy and a recent sin-binning against the Airlie Birds not helping matters. If the Giants’ losing run continues, one of them will surely be leaving the John Smith’s Stadium this season.
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| Quote ="ollie35"Reported today and repeating what I said in an earlier post above, something has to give as there is a lot of unrest at the Giants at the minute and it is not just Brough either
But a source tells us that the conflict is between Brough and coach Paul Anderson. The two strong-willed characters don’t see eye to eye, with Brough losing the captaincy and a recent sin-binning against the Airlie Birds not helping matters. If the Giants’ losing run continues, one of them will surely be leaving the John Smith’s Stadium this season.'"
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| The one thing we can say with a fair amount of certainty is that with the exception of Brough, and possibly Gerry all our players have gone backwards individually under Mr Andersons coaching. We can assume they have not made a collective deliberate decision to do that . So where do you start to look for the answer. Or are we saying that whatever the reasons for the present situ they are nothing to do with the coach, and everything to do with the players not doing what he tells them to do.
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