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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"They aren't complaints, they are observations, i've said it was good tactics by Wigan to play this way as it stopped us playing and helped you control the game your way. We weren't good enough tonight, you were.'"
I cannot agree with you. We were beaten by a more dominant team.
All the dropped ball and poor passes and lack of metres gained had nothing to do with wigans tactics or the ref.
The best team won. We have to eat the humble pie tonight.
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| Quote ="jools"I just don't understand why we would take off one of our three props. Even if hes not playing as well as he can do. Faiumu is not and should never be used as a prop forward. Didn't like it when brown did it and i don't like it now.'"
I agree.
We have been short a prop all season after Fielden was injured.
For whatever reason none of the other props are ready yet and we got found out in the pack again.
That is why i said i would have liked to have got Amor.
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| Chin up, we won it from your current position in 2010
I think you will win next week, but you need to up your game for the SF as the other teams will.
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| With Fielden retired we don't really have many options in the front row. Faiumu is a far better option than Mullally.
When Eorl was run through by their forward I thought they would score but what a tackle by Grix. Thought I would mention as usually he is the first to be made a scapegoat.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"I cannot agree with you. We were beaten by a more dominant team.
All the dropped ball and poor passes and lack of metres gained had nothing to do with wigans tactics or the ref.
The best team won. We have to eat the humble pie tonight.'"
Of course they were the best team i haven't even tried to deny that, my point was they came with a tactic designed to negate the way we play, it did, which meant we had to play differently which we couldn't hence we lost the game cos of this.
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| Thought Grix was good tonight, one of only a handful that can truly hold their heads up.
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| Best team won, we need to turn the disappointment into a positive, we have another cherry to bite!, we'll be back.
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| INwww.youtube.com/watch?v=yFOvldn_IRwOUT
The Playoff system looks good.
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| Couldn't disagree with the OP any more.
On paper, we had a very strong team out and nobody could argue with it before kickoff.
Wigan were quicker and stronger and beat us by playing like Warrington!!
Seriously though, they played the conditions a lot better, got away with more and were on the right end of a couple of bad calls.
Wigan deserved it
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| first 10-15 minutes apart we seemed to lack intensity,whether that was to do with resting the players last week im not sure, but we just didn't have a spark in attack. conditions were a factor for both sides so cant use that as an excuse.
we played too narrow IMO and never got the ball wide early to get ferres and chan rampaging, to be fair wigans defence was very good though but we seemed to persist in just going down the middle, I cant remember getting our wide runners involved much and I don't think murph or jerry received many passes if any.
very disappointed tonight as we didn't show up, wigan were better, as daz says they got their tactics spot on and pushed bentham to the limit and were very lucky to get away with a lot of stuff.
that said though we just didn't play to our potential and were beaten by a better side on the night.
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| I would love Huddersfield to win the play offs but they were woeful.
Wigan played well, in the rain again.
Kyle Wood used to play for us and although he did well for us, he is not really up to this level surely?
Three midgets in Brough, Robinson and Wood have got to perform or it's gonna be Poopsville Arizona.
They didn't and it was.
Come on Giants ... regroup.
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| I don't think Huddersfield played badly but Wigan were just too good and showed their class tonight.
I thought Ferres was again your stand out - great player for you.
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Best team won, we need to turn the disappointment into a positive, we have another cherry to bite!, we'll be back.'"
I think you'll win next week but then because of the club call you'll be playing wigan again in the final semi (wire or leeds will pick lowest ranked team which can't be hudds), a game which will be harder than the game last night.
I'd love to see you make the final but I can't see past wigan now.
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| I have to say i feel pretty flat this morning.
I should have known better than to have been confident.
Still it has never been easy being a Huddersfield fan.
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| Props for me, koppy and eorl for me were massive in the first half but Wigan were hunting in packs and the only other prop we had was Patrick who is more of your bumped up second row impact prop.
Think with Fielden being out and then retiring and mullay not making the impact that many thought he would do left the two big lads a tad unsupported?
Although eorl for me has stepped it up that run hit three players knock one on there backside find your feet run again and knock another one over! Quality!
Was gutted but the effort was there and we managed a coulple of breaks and a fair amount of pressure with the drop outs created just couldn't convert
I feel it's far from over! Maybe not going to be our year in this part of the competition but looking forward to seeing the boys respond next Thursday!
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| Props for me, koppy and eorl for me were massive in the first half but Wigan were hunting in packs and the only other prop we had was Patrick who is more of your bumped up second row impact prop.
Think with Fielden being out and then retiring and mullay not making the impact that many thought he would do left the two big lads a tad unsupported?
Although eorl for me has stepped it up that run hit three players knock one on there backside find your feet run again and knock another one over! Quality!
Was gutted but the effort was there and we managed a coulple of breaks and a fair amount of pressure with the drop outs created just couldn't convert
I feel it's far from over! Maybe not going to be our year in this part of the competition but looking forward to seeing the boys respond next Thursday!
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| Wigan wanted it more, end of.
Too few of our players were prepared to die on that pitch. Wigan were constantly putting their bodies on the line whereas we seemed to be saving ourselves for something. It's play off football, no second chances (although ironically we now have a second chance).
Far too many of our players chose last night to have their worst game of the season. Our line speed was too slow, we moved one yard forward and stopped. It doesn't matter how many props you have if you give 8 or 9 free metres every tackle. In attack we were too flat, too many players taking passes stood still and sauntering into the Wigan line. And far , far too much soft dropped ball. First tackle after a penalty, fourth tackle on your opponents line, second tackle coming out of defence. You can't do that at this level.
Bentham had a good match as far as I'm concerned. He made a few dodgy decisions both ways but was pretty consistent. Wigan got to slow the ball down because they were dominating the tackle, we weren't largely due to our line speed.
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| Quote ="adamhuddsgiant"Props for me, koppy and eorl for me were massive in the first half but Wigan were hunting in packs and the only other prop we had was Patrick who is more of your bumped up second row impact prop.
Think with Fielden being out and then retiring and mullay not making the impact that many thought he would do left the two big lads a tad unsupported?
Although eorl for me has stepped it up that run hit three players knock one on there backside find your feet run again and knock another one over! Quality!
Was gutted but the effort was there and we managed a coulple of breaks and a fair amount of pressure with the drop outs created just couldn't convert
I feel it's far from over! Maybe not going to be our year in this part of the competition but looking forward to seeing the boys respond next Thursday!'"
Agree with most of that, but Fielden is retired so we must get on with it. On that point though I felt we really missed Ukuma last night, he isn't a prop but he does bulk the pack up, during the middle third when Eorl and Koppy were off is when the game turned from us dominating field to Wigan doing so. I think Ukuma would have helped us maintain parity in that spell.
Another thing we did not do well was get the ball to our wide strike players, Ferres got a bit but not much of it was good, I don't think Joe Wardle got a pass in the attacking area, Leroy and Channy got very little. Of course Wigan set out to stop that, the 10 set by Bentham was very skinny (but always is) and our passing was not crisp enough. We reverted to one off plays in the attacking areas rather than patiently moving the defence and setting up the next play.
In the end we were not outclassed, but lost to a team who were more patient than us on the night. On last nights showing Leeds and Wire will not be worried about either side, neither looked like Grand Final winners, but both are capable of doing so.
We have not faced a stiff challenge since the last Wigan match at the DW, so maybe we were not quite ready last night, a hard game next week then Wigan again is a challenge, but one I am still confident we can be successful in. I am disappointed about the result last night but I am not despondant about our chances, we lost round 1 but do not yet look like a beaten team imo.
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| It's becoming a bit of a cliche, but still true: the level of intensity goes up a notch or 3 this time of year. I don't think Huddersfield went up with it last night. That's what they need to correct.
Other than that, I thought after the first 10 minutes or so you were playing differently to the style I've watched and enjoyed as a neutral this year: some of the directness went and the ball was shifted too early without earning the right to move it first.
Brough started with a super try, but lost his way thereafter. I had a strong sense that Wigan tried very hard to irritate him and get under his skin, and he allowed it to work. Might be wrong. Others stepping up is all very well, but when your 1st and/or 2nd receiver executes plays badly it's hard for the team to gain traction.
Wigan, as is there wont, looked shaky to begin with, but as soon as they got a sniff they were brutally ruthless. That's what it's all about at this time of year.
Nothing that can't be corrected. I dont think anyone should write the Giants off just yet.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"It's becoming a bit of a cliche, but still true: the level of intensity goes up a notch or 3 this time of year. I don't think Huddersfield went up with it last night. That's what they need to correct.
Other than that, I thought after the first 10 minutes or so you were playing differently to the style I've watched and enjoyed as a neutral this year: some of the directness went and the ball was shifted too early without earning the right to move it first.
Brough started with a super try, but lost his way thereafter. I had a strong sense that Wigan tried very hard to irritate him and get under his skin, and he allowed it to work. Might be wrong. Others stepping up is all very well, but when your 1st and/or 2nd receiver executes plays badly it's hard for the team to gain traction.
Wigan, as is there wont, looked shaky to begin with, but as soon as they got a sniff they were brutally ruthless. That's what it's all about at this time of year.
Nothing that can't be corrected. I dont think anyone should write the Giants off just yet.'"
Don't want to say Wigan used spoiling tactics ect but you could see the frustration on some of the players faces with the length of time being held down and some stupid stuff like taking an eternity to drop out, kick the ball away ect! Little stuff and it worked to a degree
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"I have to say i feel pretty flat this morning.
I should have known better than to have been confident.
Still it has never been easy being a Huddersfield fan.'"
I think you had a right to be confident. You finished top, were on decent form and were rightly favourites. What a lot of people suggested (all be it some in the wrong way) is experience counts for a massive amount in the playoffs. If you look at recent history Wigan made the semis twice before making the final, warrington finished top and didn't make the final, it took them a few years of getting knocked out early before they took the next step.
This is realistically your first year of expecting rather than hoping to do well in the playoffs. If you don't make the final it is valuable experience the team and coach will have gained for next year. If you do make the final then good luck (unless your playing us). I know how you feel as we felt the same in 2010. Finished top, lost the first game at home to Leeds. It didn't work out too badly for us that year.
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| I'm sorry, but watch it back and Hudds did their fair share of lying on and locking the tackler's arm with their own. Our domination had nothing to do with the ref...
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I think you had a right to be confident. You finished top, were on decent form and were rightly favourites. What a lot of people suggested (all be it some in the wrong way) is experience counts for a massive amount in the playoffs. If you look at recent history Wigan made the semis twice before making the final, warrington finished top and didn't make the final, it took them a few years of getting knocked out early before they took the next step.
This is realistically your first year of expecting rather than hoping to do well in the playoffs. If you don't make the final it is valuable experience the team and coach will have gained for next year. If you do make the final then good luck (unless your playing us). I know how you feel as we felt the same in 2010. Finished top, lost the first game at home to Leeds. It didn't work out too badly for us that year.'"
Same way I feel, the Giants really shouldn't be too worried. You get an easier match next week to rebuild, then play a team that's possibly undercooked after a week off. Plus you've already proven yourselves away from home so there shouldn't be much to fear.
As for last night, it was 6 props vs 3 in the rain, not really sure what else you'd expect. We've had to learn our lesson about going into big games light up front over the last few years the hard way too.
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| Quote ="adamhuddsgiant"Don't want to say Wigan used spoiling tactics ect but you could see the frustration on some of the players faces with the length of time being held down and some stupid stuff like taking an eternity to drop out, kick the ball away ect! Little stuff and it worked to a degree'"
clutching at straws i am afraid.
We lost the ruck simple as that.
If you lose the ruck your PTBs will be slower fact
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| Quote ="jools"I just don't understand why we would take off one of our three props. Even if hes not playing as well as he can do. Faiumu is not and should never be used as a prop forward. Didn't like it when brown did it and i don't like it now.'"
considering faiumu isnt a prop when he has played there he has been one of the best! been in great form this season and a top performer in the latter half
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