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| anderson says broughton and connor will play
so does that mean
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as the 3/4's? or will connor play in the halves
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| Quote ="meast"anderson says broughton and connor will play
so does that mean
grix
broughton
murphy
connor
jerry
as the 3/4's? or will connor play in the halves'"
yes thats backline. wardle back into the second row
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broughton
murphy
connor
mcgillvary
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wood
robinson
crabtree
huby
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wardle
bench-
leeming
kopczak
mullally
taai
not sure about taai or hughes starting or wardle from the bench!
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| [urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9857840/castleford-captain-michael-shenton-wants-reaction-from-challenge-cup-exit[/url
piece from shenton, powell and anderson above..
anderson says he was 'out coached' on saturday
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| Be interesting to see how broughton goes tonight now he gets another chance and a different centre inside of him
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| Have to laugh about how the youngsters can do no wrong and the criticism of some of the Giants senior players. Let's see what is said about Connors effort in Castleford's first try tonight. Still think he is a great talent but is full of errors in attack and defence at the moment.
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| Quote ="brearley84"Be interesting to see how broughton goes tonight now he gets another chance and a different centre inside of him'"
Neither him nor Connor really saw any of the ball. Very 1 dimensional tonight, we just went straight up the middle. Don't think we really offered much, but we got the rub of the green we seem to have been without for the first few weeks of the season.
Still too many errors. Still lots of room for improvement
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| Quote ="the stella kid"Have to laugh about how the youngsters can do no wrong and the criticism of some of the Giants senior players. Let's see what is said about Connors effort in Castleford's first try tonight. Still think he is a great talent but is full of errors in attack and defence at the moment.'"
Spot on there Stella.
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| Connor had a poor game imo
leeming is a Super League 9 now - crisp distribution and good defence
Broughton did ok, didn't see the ball at all
Next week I want to see Wardle back at 4, ferries at 11 and Taai at 13
Bruno on the bench and cudjoe back at 3
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| Connor needs to be more careful with his lairiness & needle that he has. Be smarter with it. Less chunter at the refs as well.
You need a degree of aggression and so on but you need to be smart. Hopefully that will come soon.
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| Quote ="the stella kid"Have to laugh about how the youngsters can do no wrong and the criticism of some of the Giants senior players. Let's see what is said about Connors effort in Castleford's first try tonight. Still think he is a great talent but is full of errors in attack and defence at the moment.'"
Spot on, he's got a lot to learn yet. Grix would have been crucified on here after that 1st Cas try and some of the silly pens he gave away
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| Good to get the win at a difficult place, done the double over them and its 3 away wins on the bounce now in the league
Thought the changes to the team from anderson were good calls, especially ferres down the middle, went really well although could have shown abit more composure at times with some wayward passes!
wardle looking great in the second row too.
leeming for me is becoming very impressive, our number 1 hooker, would like to see him and ellis interchanging, think robinson is past it now and gets targeted too much by the opposition.
the intensity showed lastnight was what i wanted to see and we got it from the off, shame we didnt do that in the cup!
as for the decisions from the video ref i thought they were the correct ones..
huby had the ball stripped but regained it to put it down
murphy scored after the ball came off solomona not mcgillvay
crabtree had the ball down on the line in one movement. silverwood was only a few feet away and could see it was on the line just went to see for double movement which there wasnt
anycase we were still in the lead! and good to get some decisions swing our way for a change
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| Good win at a hard ground to win at.
Wardle was my man of the match and shouldn't be put back in the centre spot unless we are desperate. He's wasted at centre with his speed, strength, energy levels, passing game, defence and support play.
Ferres getting back to his best too and looked very dangerous at 13.
I'm still not sure about Connor at centre. He's still very young but still feel he's suited to fullback.
Nothing wrong with any of our try's. Wouldn't complain if they were scored against us. Crabtree's in particular to me was practically nudged over by the last man in the tackle.
I've said for awhile I'm just happy with points over performance but I'd like abit of varaity now. We either throw it about and force play all game or keep it simple all game. Put both together and cut out penalties and errors and we could win something.
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| Quote ="brearley84"Good to get the win at a difficult place, done the double over them and its 3 away wins on the bounce now in the league
Thought the changes to the team from anderson were good calls, especially ferres down the middle, went really well although could have shown abit more composure at times with some wayward passes!
wardle looking great in the second row too.
leeming for me is becoming very impressive, our number 1 hooker, would like to see him and ellis interchanging, think robinson is past it now and gets targeted too much by the opposition.
the intensity showed lastnight was what i wanted to see and we got it from the off, shame we didnt do that in the cup!
as for the decisions from the video ref i thought they were the correct ones..
huby had the ball stripped but regained it to put it down
murphy scored after the ball came off solomona not mcgillvay
crabtree had the ball down on the line in one movement. silverwood was only a few feet away and could see it was on the line just went to see for double movement which there wasnt
anycase we were still in the lead! and good to get some decisions swing our way for a change'"
Absolute bull mate, have a word with yourself. Crabtree stops short. The tacklers boot is on the line and Crabtree lands before it, after the movement stops he pushes his weight forward just enough so that the ball rolls with him over the line! You can literally see the pattern of the ball go from purple when he lands, to white after he rolls it.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Absolute bull mate, have a word with yourself. Crabtree stops short. The tacklers boot is on the line and Crabtree lands before it, after the movement stops he pushes his weight forward just enough so that the ball rolls with him over the line! You can literally see the pattern of the ball go from purple when he lands, to white after he rolls it.'"
I think you're right. But I've given up worrying about the times we're on the end of ty decisions, so I'm not going to waste a moment apologising for being on the right end of them from time to time.
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| It was the defender landing on Crabtree that forced the ball over IMO. IT wasn't an intentional movement by Crabtree. It's a weird one.
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| There was a big change in attitude and work rate , so straight away there was improvement, Cas are a tough side at home. Leeming continues to look good and I agree with what someone said about Conner, he needs to calm down and channel his aggression in the right places, but to be fair the whole team are just a penalty machine at times.
For once some calls went our way, if we had been playing Leeds I would have put money on them going the other way. Well done , need to keep up the intensity.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Absolute bull mate, have a word with yourself. Crabtree stops short. The tacklers boot is on the line and Crabtree lands before it, after the movement stops he pushes his weight forward just enough so that the ball rolls with him over the line! You can literally see the pattern of the ball go from purple when he lands, to white after he rolls it.'"
Well there are a number of points there, some people believe his momentum was stopped other that the defenders actions put him over. Another point that seems to be missed is after the ball came off the boot you could not see any green between the ball and the line (the front of the ball not the side).
Ultimately it was sent up as try and there was no conclusive proof the ball did not touch the line even before the movement and nothing definitive about whom caused the movement. The flip side is of course that if sent up as no try it would not have been given, the video could support either view.
I believe that had there been no video ref that try would be given each and every time and not be seen as controversial. Watch it at full speed.
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| I remember a couple of seasons ago at Cas they were deemed to have scored a try a try by the video ref for an advantage of doubt
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| Quote ="GiantDee"Well there are a number of points there, some people believe his momentum was stopped other that the defenders actions put him over. Another point that seems to be missed is after the ball came off the boot you could not see any green between the ball and the line (the front of the ball not the side).
Ultimately it was sent up as try and there was no conclusive proof the ball did not touch the line even before the movement and nothing definitive about whom caused the movement. The flip side is of course that if sent up as no try it would not have been given, the video could support either view.
I believe that had there been no video ref that try would be given each and every time and not be seen as controversial. Watch it at full speed.'"
yep no video on a non televised game and they are given as a try all day long
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| Quote ="GiantDee"Well there are a number of points there, some people believe his momentum was stopped other that the defenders actions put him over. Another point that seems to be missed is after the ball came off the boot you could not see any green between the ball and the line (the front of the ball not the side).
Ultimately it was sent up as try and there was no conclusive proof the ball did not touch the line even before the movement and nothing definitive about whom caused the movement. The flip side is of course that if sent up as no try it would not have been given, the video could support either view.
I believe that had there been no video ref that try would be given each and every time and not be seen as controversial. Watch it at full speed.'"
That doesn't make it a try though. I watched it at full speed with everyone else and he pushes himself forward.
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| Ref gave it a try
No VR and its a try with no fuss
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| He doesn't push himself forward though the defenders do, which is why I think the video ref couldn't disallow it because there was no concrete evidence to support this
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| huddersfield were still winning the game.
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| Quote ="brearley84"huddersfield were still winning the game.'"
That was my thoughts at the time - never felt we were going to let them get in front with only 5 min to go as our defence was awesome for long periods throughout.
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| Quote ="devoniangiant"That was my thoughts at the time - never felt we were going to let them get in front with only 5 min to go as our defence was awesome for long periods throughout.'"
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