No I couldn't have stopped any of the ones Grix didn't Daz. Bit then again I don't get paid to like he does.

He was shocking along with the rest of them. However I blame the coach. He messed up. Should have kept the same back line as last week. Grix is my 3rd choice full back.

For some reason tho if he's for he plays. Doesn't matter what Murph or Connor do.

But so do the others who fail to stop the man before he gets near Grix !! thats my point about people blaming him when in reality there is very little he can do once the others have failed in their job

I called him class. He is. May not be a world beater but he's class. Any full back would have been ripped apart tonight as the last line of defence. Boo hoo, he took a risk letting the ball bounce once more for the 40/20 for an easier catch. It all happens fast. That wasn't what lost us that game.
Why not slate your favourite full back Murphy for his mistakes tonight and the rest of them for not working as a unit, running out of the line whenever they felt like it, giving penalties away and falling off of tackles.

Tonight was a shocking TEAM performance. Get a grip.

Grix isn't to blame for the defeat.

I just think we have better fullbacks than him. Simple as that.

You guys had no intention of trying to win tonight and if you avoid Wigan in the knockout semi then the final could still beckon but i'm afraid you are probably not up to winning that .Wigan are odds on in my mind and i think you got the worst of the finishing positions to play them and Baloo leaving out Brough was happy to give this one away and your players looked like at times they were just trying to avoid injury

there is no way that grix should be blamed last night, yes i thought he was poor, so were 16 others!

you can't blame a full back for a team conceding 10 tries, most of them without a hand being laid on them, yes he could have done better with some of the 1 on 1's, but he shouldn't be getting exposed like that, if we put effort in to tackling the opposition then breaks don't happen, and our full back isn't left exposed like that.

grix took some unmerited stick last night but to blame him is just plain ridiculous. they were all bad!

think they were also trying to avoid bending their backs, tackling, stopping offloads, etc etc.

said we made things harder for ourselves beating saints last week

but we didnt go to win lastnight, if we did brough would have been playing

onto next week, one last chance now, hope anderson picks the correct team this time too

I don't think we currently do as an all rounded. Maybe if we played one of Murphy or Connor for an entire season one could learn to more effective than Grix.
Consistently in my opinion
Murphy is best under the high ball.
Grix comes into the line better.
Grix organises the defence better.
Connor returns the ball better.
Murphy defends better.
Connor has better pace.
All depends in what you want from a fullback.

If our forwards are on top and we are able to play good rugby. I'd always play Grix. In last nights game he wasn't himself. He looked lost... Wigan were outstanding and a fullback being the last line of defence was always going to be an impossible task.

I honestly think we'll see a different side next week if Brough and Bailey return. Old Trafford is still out focus.

Got to disagree AntGiant, Grix comes into the line better? Better than what? A winger with no previous experience of playing in a ball playing position. This is Grix's best quality but its nothing to shout about. If passing along the line and the ball gets to grix he very rarely lets it go, its just off the cuff stuff. I don't even think he organises the defense better.. but that's just my opinion

Murphy at fullback for me and a trade Robinson in for a newer model please!

Grix had a good record against us in the recent past.

Other people to blame.

Crabtree way from being anywhere near fit last night, too much put on Robinson, who was behind a dominated pack

its not just your opinion! plenty say the same thing, agree about robinson too, maybe ellis next season can help on this score

Full back is the last line of defence. I expect a full back to make the odd one on one try saving tackle after everybody else has failed.

I don't expect him to make all of them, or even the majority however please tell me the last time Grix made a last ditch/try saving tackle.

Folk saying he is great at joining the line. Brilliant. Doesn't make him a good FB. Connor has scored some crackers with late runs onto the line and he is an 18 year old lad with less than a dozen SL games to his name.

Don't get me wrong. We could have had billy slater at full back last night and we would have still got bummed.

My frustration is that we have better players for that position. He does not have to work to get back on the team for some reason. As soon as he's fit he's an automatic choice.

Shaun Wine didn't put Charnley straight back in after his injury. He made him work for it and kept the young lad malfrandi in who had earned his right to play.

It would appear Anderson has modelled the team on himself, fat,slow, and stupid.

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He made a couple right on our line in front of us, just before the two try's that were carbon copies of the two that saints scored last week, one where it was two on one and he had no chance, the second where he had to come across to the wing after jerry had left a space big enough to park a bus in. (Again, and to be repeated many times) Those were right before the crowd got on his back - but then why would folk remember those try savers....

nobody was to blame, in fact, yes they were, all 17 players in claret and gold last night were a blight on the shirt.

how anyone can pick out individual performances after that debacle is mad!

Don't think I've ever felt as embarrassed leaving a game as I did last night- and the number of drubbings we've had over the years that's saying something! Couldn't get to the car quick enough!

bailey,mullally,kuffsui and chan seem to be players that Anderson doesn't fancy this year.With Chan going to KR and suddenly getting into the team of the week.our attack with brough is a ferris of load or a cut out pass . No brough then Wigen just needs to keep ferris out of the game.next week i can see brough cumming in for conner as the only change.

I agree mate,Grix is a turnstile against the top sides and especially in big games. although he does look very good when playing the lesser teams, he's a flat track bully IMO and Murphy is your best FB without a doubt with Jerry and Broughton your best wingers

Your pack really dissapointed me last night as they were far too easily dominated up front, i expected some big efforts from Crabtree, Tai and Ferres as they have all been very impressive this season?
But at least you've got a home semi to fall back on when you should easily be able to beat your bitches from Leeds

Sorry but Grix was under done and should not have played one and one tackles are hit and miss but some of his positional play is poor and the 40/20 which he should have been in position for was the start of the rot !!

No worse than many others for me but based on the week before Murphy, Broughton and Bailey should have all played in the same place you don't change a team that's just beat the top of the league !!

Anderson was more culpable than Grix but I reiterate Grix should not have played how that can be seeing it as blaming Grix you would have to be one-eyed !!

Were you at the game? Did you hear the crowd? Whether you were or not, many were definitely blaming grix and letting him know too.

I was at the game and I blame him for the 40/20 totally misjudged it either bad play or more likely as I said earlier underdone but most around me agreed it was a turning point in the game but no one in their right mind can hang 57-4 on Scott Grix alone.

Analysis says not playing Bailey and Wigan targeting Connor and Johnson was a big part of it but we should have kept the same team with Eorl for Josh Grix is a confidence player and Thursday always had the potential to go pear shaped for him.

As I say majority around me blamed the whole team and Anderson for changing the team the Bailey leave out was a big misjudgement ad when Jake lost it we could have changed it around like last week !!

We could've played any team you want and we would've lost that game. The turning point wasn't the 40-20. Wigan could've and should've had 18 points before that time. After the first 2 sets it was obvious which way the game was going to go. We were beaten by a side that knows how to win play offs. A side that knows how to ratchet it up the two notches you need at this time. A side that knows that you have to be willing to leave everything on the pitch and play like there's no tomorrow.

We simply don't know how to do that. We are a decent league side but we have been a p**s poor play off side since we started playing in them (in the Superleague era). We can't string together 80 minutes of high intensity play. We didn't in the NFP Grand Final, we didn't in our best play off run either, we haven't all season. We need the o0ther side to play below par and allow us back into the game.

Wigan were never going to do that.

Analysis says Wigan are better in play off games because they know how to win them. We are a club that is happy with mediocrity. That's the reality.

Spot on Meast, how anyone can blame individuals for such an inept team performance is beyond me.Our pack was totally dominated our defence was non existant one to seventeen yet so called intelligent posters pick on individuals to heap their scorn on.Wigan totally destroyed us as a 'TEAM' on Friday no more no less.