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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"I think most people want you to do well, And if bigging yourself up is any measure you should be champions in your first year. It's a pity your billionaire didn't come along 150 years ago, you could have showed us how to bury soccer and how to do things right, ( God knows we could do with someone to do that ). But as i have said before you won't be dealing with the RFL for very much longer , You will be dealing with people with a bit more nouse, whether that will increase your chances i don't know.
Iv'e said before i think you will have a couple of years before the ESL takes over proper, and then if you are not increasing the honey pot or if you are costing SL clubs money i think you will be in trouble , no matter which way you run with the pack. Let's hope it all works out because the game really does need to expand.'"
Its going to be an interesting ride and refreshing for most in the end...I'll let the billionaires take care of the money end....going canoeing and fishing for a few days now....will think it all over out on the water and in the bush.
Problem Question: Should I take my dog with me this time?
Best of Luck!
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| Billionaires in RUGBY LEAGUE, sorry canoeman but more a nation of shopkeepers, I think you would be better getting in to football {soccer} if your looking to make money, over half the teams in rugby dont own the ground and have to rent it,
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| Quote ="Canoeman"Its going to be an interesting ride and refreshing for most in the end...I'll let the billionaires take care of the money end....going canoeing and fishing for a few days now....will think it all over out on the water and in the bush.
Problem Question: Should I take my dog with me this time?
Best of Luck!'"
Take the dog mate ,you might get hungry
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| Quote ="Canoeman"Why thank you for the good wishes Steve...good luck to you this year in return...looks like you have a keeper as a Coach there.
You gotta believe Steve...we are not like any other club...we are the Alpha and the Omega...we are THE WOLFPACK!
Rugby League your saviour is finally here!...lay out the palm fronds upon our return...we come from a far and distant land bearing gifts.
"Run With The Pack!"'"
Hahahahaha....
Hahahahahahahaha..........
The alpha and omega has just got beat by 16 man Featherstone Rovers....
Toronto 12-30 Featherstone Rovers looks like the ‘Pack’ were the saviours of Fev’s top four hopes......
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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"Hahahahaha....
Hahahahahahahaha..........
The alpha and omega has just got beat by 16 man Featherstone Rovers....
Toronto 12-30 Featherstone Rovers looks like the ‘Pack’ were the saviours of Fev’s top four hopes......
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No worries...Fev deserved the win. We were resting some players but no excuses....crowd of 8 2000 was fun and is growing pretty well every game (like last year too). I'm predicting a sell out in the playoffs.
Confidence level is strong....fan support is strong...players belief in what we are doing is strong...great coaching and ownership. Nowhere to go but UP, UP, UP!
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when the games are shown on tv looks nothing like 8200, think thats on tickets sold and not on actual numbers turning up on the day
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"82000
when the games are shown on tv looks nothing like 8200, think thats on tickets sold and not on actual numbers turning up on the day'"
I understand that...but the figure is correct as pointed out on another thread by Pandamonium...I will explain a couple of things about Toronto and crowd size you have to understand, I've said them before and and was banned from the Terrace for trying to derail the thread; how is telling the truth derailing a thread?;bizarre, for some reason, unknown to me, some simply refuse to believe them. Out or courtesy I will repeat:
1. The cameras mainly show East Stand which is never as full as West Stand (season ticket holders here)
2. In Britain I guess people show up before the game actually starts and get their place. Understand that this never happens in Toronto for any sport EVER! Even playoffs in hockey and baseball.
People drift in and you really can't get an accurate figure until 20-30 minutes into the game...it is the sporting culture over here...aleways has been like that.
3. A large number of people never take a seat but wander around the area...its a social thing. This is aleways a very large number, not just a few.
4. I have been to every home game for 2 years and the attendance figures are always accurate, thats the truth of it.
5. The stadium is leased from the City of Toronto and they are in charge of the gate number. All tickets are electronically scanned by the City employee, not the Club, and they then supply the number of tickets through the gate. This number is beyond reproach since it is subject to forensic accounting for the City of Toronto...it is a municipal controlled structure....the Club is not involved in any way....there would be severe legal ramifications and the lease would be cancelled for the grounds PERIOD (.)
Those are the facts.
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| Quote ="Canoeman"I understand that...but the figure is correct as pointed out on another thread by Pandamonium...I will explain a couple of things about Toronto and crowd size you have to understand, I've said them before and and was banned from the Terrace for trying to derail the thread; how is telling the truth derailing a thread?;bizarre, for some reason, unknown to me, some simply refuse to believe them. Out or courtesy I will repeat:
1. The cameras mainly show East Stand which is never as full as West Stand (season ticket holders here)
2. In Britain I guess people show up before the game actually starts and get their place. Understand that this never happens in Toronto for any sport EVER! Even playoffs in hockey and baseball.
People drift in and you really can't get an accurate figure until 20-30 minutes into the game...it is the sporting culture over here...aleways has been like that.
3. A large number of people never take a seat but wander around the area...its a social thing. This is aleways a very large number, not just a few.
4. I have been to every home game for 2 years and the attendance figures are always accurate, thats the truth of it.
5. The stadium is leased from the City of Toronto and they are in charge of the gate number. All tickets are electronically scanned by the City employee, not the Club, and they then supply the number of tickets through the gate. This number is beyond reproach since it is subject to forensic accounting for the City of Toronto...it is a municipal controlled structure....the Club is not involved in any way....there would be severe legal ramifications and the lease would be cancelled for the grounds PERIOD (.)
Those are the facts.'"
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| Quote ="Canoeman"I understand that...but the figure is correct as pointed out on another thread by Pandamonium...I will explain a couple of things about Toronto and crowd size you have to understand, I've said them before and and was banned from the Terrace for trying to derail the thread; how is telling the truth derailing a thread?;bizarre, for some reason, unknown to me, some simply refuse to believe them. Out or courtesy I will repeat:
1. The cameras mainly show East Stand which is never as full as West Stand (season ticket holders here)
2. In Britain I guess people show up before the game actually starts and get their place. Understand that this never happens in Toronto for any sport EVER! Even playoffs in hockey and baseball.
People drift in and you really can't get an accurate figure until 20-30 minutes into the game...it is the sporting culture over here...aleways has been like that.
3. A large number of people never take a seat but wander around the area...its a social thing. This is aleways a very large number, not just a few.
4. I have been to every home game for 2 years and the attendance figures are always accurate, thats the truth of it.
5. The stadium is leased from the City of Toronto and they are in charge of the gate number. All tickets are electronically scanned by the City employee, not the Club, and they then supply the number of tickets through the gate. This number is beyond reproach since it is subject to forensic accounting for the City of Toronto...it is a municipal controlled structure....the Club is not involved in any way....there would be severe legal ramifications and the lease would be cancelled for the grounds PERIOD (.)
Those are the facts.'"
650 season ticket holders, 50%+ of all match day tickets are complimentary, a Canadian team owned by an Australian mining mogul and like nearly all RL teams making a loss but for your benefactor. Can’t play at home in February or March ?
Aiming for the riches of Superleague to get financially stable, all these facts and goals are self stated but totally reliant on being an exception in the league like this years fixture farce.
Seriously the RL think this is progress and where the big bucks are coming from to save and grow the sport ?
Looks like another expansion club built on quicksand and we risk losing Leigh for this.... INCREDIBLE
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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"650 season ticket holders, 50%+ of all match day tickets are complimentary, a Canadian team owned by an Australian mining mogul and like nearly all RL teams making a loss but for your benefactor. Can’t play at home in February or March ?
Aiming for the riches of Superleague to get financially stable, all these facts and goals are self stated but totally reliant on being an exception in the league like this years fixture farce.
Seriously the RL think this is progress and where the big bucks are coming from to save and grow the sport ?
Looks like another expansion club built on quicksand and we risk losing Leigh for this.... INCREDIBLE'"
Your figures are factually incorrect...your facts are totally incorrect...your conclusions logically unwarranted or backed up by any form of reality whatsoever ...your bias overly evident.
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| Not as sad as the Toronto club complaining you have to travel to compete in the middle 8s.
What were they expecting would happen???
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| Quote ="jools"Not as sad as the Toronto club complaining you have to travel to compete in the middle 8s.
What were they expecting would happen???'"
Toronto travels far more than any other club...they are not upset about traveling, they just thought the scheduling could have been better...so the cookie crumbles, no big deal.
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| The RFL shouldn’t have to pander to Toronto, or any other one specific club with scheduling. There are other considerations such as availability of stadia which have been known by the RFL for some time. Its clearly a deal or they wouldn’t have mentioned it.
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| Quote ="jools"The RFL shouldn’t have to pander to Toronto, or any other one specific club with scheduling. There are other considerations such as availability of stadia which have been known by the RFL for some time. Its clearly a deal or they wouldn’t have mentioned it.'"
No one is asking anyone to pander to someone. A little consideration would have been nice after all that Toronto has done for everyone, but it is what it is what it is....very minor issue; you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
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| Quote ="Canoeman"No one is asking anyone to pander to someone. A little consideration would have been nice after all that Toronto has done for everyone, but it is what it is what it is....very minor issue; you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.'"
What are you referring too when you say "all that Toronto has done for everyone " Canoeman
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| Well one down six/seven to go and we get a trip to Canada next year.
Nobles rant about a level playing field for Toronto is a bit rich saying that making them travel weekly is unfair. Seems that they are a ‘house of sand’ be interesting to see if Hull KR get both outstanding Visa’s.
If a player who’s English can play in England or France but not in Canada it’s time to call this stupid experiment off.
And don’t say every SL and Championship team should have signed players and checked they could get a Canadian Visa because in an English game that’s rubbish.
Time the RL made a decision and if it’s a Canadian team playing at an English ground until the winters over this stupidity should end there cos if that’s the future I’m a Dutchman.
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| They haven’t defied logic this week. Lost narrowly, but at home, to KR.
Shame.
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| Quote ="jools"They haven’t defied logic this week. Lost narrowly, but at home, to KR.
Shame.'"
Hull KR deserved to win the multi lined ‘field’ was awful and the Canada and UK anthems a joke it’s a club game.
Where this would improve the game is beyond me....
However Canoemans Wolfpack have bestowed blessings on Hull KR two points
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| They ran Hull very close, and good crowd at the game, I think they'l be a close bet for promotion, its not KR they have to beat its Widnes and by their showing against Salford, I can't see how they will beat the Wolfpack.
I think Noble has a good point, the game is not awash with money or players and having a tweek to the schedule would have made sense on both the former points, but it is what it is.
I hope they make it, would like to add Toronto to my away games roster, and one end of the ground full of beer tents, very tempting.
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"They ran Hull very close, and good crowd at the game, I think they'l be a close bet for promotion, its not KR they have to beat its Widnes and by their showing against Salford, I can't see how they will beat the Wolfpack.
I think Noble has a good point, the game is not awash with money or players and having a tweek to the schedule would have made sense on both the former points, but it is what it is.
I hope they make it, would like to add Toronto to my away games roster, and one end of the ground full of beer tents, very tempting.'"
Close with the assistance of the chief clown that is James Child. The first Toronto try would have gone to the VR ref over here as it was very close to what looked like the touch line, the white line I think.
Noble has no good points anymore Toronto is his last chance saloon in RL and you can’t have a competition where the one team outside the Country where the game is played does less travelling then the other eleven, oh unless it’s unfair for Toronto to have to do what the Catalans have done ?
If they can’t play to a normal fixture pattern and start in Feb like the rest of the league it’s surely a no go but then the RFL work in mysterious way.
Sorry but beer tents or not this is doomed to failure hence the silence from the RFL
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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"Close with the assistance of the chief clown that is James Child. The first Toronto try would have gone to the VR ref over here as it was very close to what looked like the touch line, the white line I think.
Noble has no good points anymore Toronto is his last chance saloon in RL and you can’t have a competition where the one team outside the Country where the game is played does less travelling then the other eleven, oh unless it’s unfair for Toronto to have to do what the Catalans have done ?
If they can’t play to a normal fixture pattern and start in Feb like the rest of the league it’s surely a no go but then the RFL work in mysterious way.
Sorry but beer tents or not this is doomed to failure hence the silence from the RFL'" It may be the clubs that have the final say about the Wolfpack.
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| Attendance yesterday 7540, seems to me we have some playground bullies on here, you can't play with us, lets stay a small minority sport for the next 123 years ehh!
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Attendance yesterday 7540, seems to me we have some playground bullies on here, you can't play with us, lets stay a small minority sport for the next 123 years ehh!'"
Bullies... no substitute common sense give me a team from Ireland, Scotland, Wales, France, Italy, Belgium who get promoted but an 8 hour flight and no play before April at home, get real Toulouse would be expansion but yeah let’s let a club go to the wall to support Toronto who will fold as soon as the tycoon gets fed up.
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