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| When I read that article I don't think of Mamo.
When is says Stoney is very keen on one player in particular, I assume it means Tyler Randell.
Stone is a massive fan of Randell and brought him through the grades to firstgrade.
I won't say Stone doesn't rate Mamo, but he never seemed to be that impressed with him.
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| Quote ="roopy"When I read that article I don't think of Mamo.
When is says Stoney is very keen on one player in particular, I assume it means Tyler Randell.
Stone is a massive fan of Randell and brought him through the grades to firstgrade.
I won't say Stone doesn't rate Mamo, but he never seemed to be that impressed with him.'"
We already know that stone has definitely enquiries about Mamo. Whether he enquiries about Randell will depend on whether he sees hinchy moving to 13- he rates Leeming.
Problem is if hinchy moves to the back row we then have symonds, taai, ikahihifo, Roberts and Bruno all vying for two second row spots- all those players are too good to be sitting in the stands- taai and ikahihifo should not be playing prop as it's not their best positions. (And if rumours are true we have Ferguson coming plus youngsters waiting to get a chance at second row!)
Swapping Randall/Mamo for Wardle and allowing him to go early doesn't help as that leaves us short in the centres. Symonds has played centre, but again It's not his best position. We should not be starting the season shoehorning players into their second best position to fill a shortage.
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| If i remember right when RS was appointed someone posted (Roopy?) that he builds teams to suit the players he has so that suggests to me (I hope) we will see round pegs in round holes - players in their true positions. That being the case and if Wardle goes does it mean
A centre is coming in. Gaskell? Or someone else
Or Sam Wood / Jacob Wardle will be given a chance.
Don't see Ferguson in front of the other second rowers and is Taai here next season?
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| Love taai - but thought his contract was up this year.
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| You guys are thinking of Randell as a hooker - and that is all he has played in firstgrade, apart from filling in at half and centre during games because of injuries.
But I can tell you that when Rick coached him in reserve grade he played very little hooker. At different times Rick used him as a centre, 5/8, half, lock, second row and sometimes as a hooker.
If all were fit, he'd often name Randell on the bench as injury cover, and use him when players were tired as a ball playing lock forward - someone who could run some plays and defend in the forwards.
Randell is a chunky little guy who isn't really a standout in any position, but he'll turn his hand to anything and do OK. He isn't really big enough for the forwards, but makes up for it with excellent defence. His kicking game isn't good enough for the halves, but his passing game is solid and he has a surprizing turn of speed for a chunky little guy.
His two best assets are his defence and his fitness, and the fact that he is a real footballer who knows his role in any position he is thrown into, and he'll do what Stoney says, which is why Stoney loves him.
Nathan Brown sees him as a hooker only, and has decided to replace him because he isn't ever going to be a rep standard hooker, while Rick Stone sees him as a bloody good footballer who can fill a lot of gaps.
Funnily, I always said that Rick was ruining his career in reserve grade by using him in a different position every week and not allowing him to specialize.
In my opinion, 5/8 is his best position, and after two years of firstgrade at hooker, hooker would now be his second best position.
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| Quote ="Chetnik"Bit harsh on Wardle is that...'"
not really, made a living off playing outside ferres and brough
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| Yeah that's up there with saying David Hodgson only ever scored walk in tries for us
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| Quote ="brearley84"not really, made a living off playing outside ferres and brough'" so done a good job off someone doing his job then....
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| Quote ="Run leroy , run !"Love taai - but thought his contract was up this year.'"
Taai has two more years.
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| Adam Walker should be a target from Hull KR has improved loads since leaving us. Was outstanding today.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Adam Walker should be a target from Hull KR has improved loads since leaving us. Was outstanding today.'"
He's been pretty good ever since he left us TBH. We gave
Fairbank an extension and sold on walker
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| Quote ="jools"Taai has two more years.'"
Thanks.
Great year from him. Don't think he missed a single game.
Hopefully we can get some props as he is so good in the second row.
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| Quote ="jools"Taai has two more years.'"
thought taai had signed a 1 year deal in 2015 to 2016
we all thought it was a strange one only having one year deal ..not heard anything since regarding 2 more years?
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| lunty... from giants to wanting to go and play in the nrl to the championship
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| Quote ="brearley84"thought taai had signed a 1 year deal in 2015 to 2016
we all thought it was a strange one only having one year deal ..not heard anything since regarding 2 more years?'"
Only One year was announced-not sure whether that was on purpose or by accident. I heard at the time it was longer and stone confirmed he has two years the other week.
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| I'd agree on Walker
Did some damage v us and most useful
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| I asked Ken Davy which club we had the best relationship with and the answer was KR. I wonder whether we may "help them out" by taking a couple of players on loan this year to take the pressure of their wage bill so that they can hang on to them with a view to them coming back up next year.
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| Quote ="jools"I asked Ken Davy which club we had the best relationship with and the answer was KR. I wonder whether we may "help them out" by taking a couple of players on loan this year to take the pressure of their wage bill so that they can hang on to them with a view to them coming back up next year.'"
no thanks. they dont have anyone apart from campese and kelly... but we are ok in that area.
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| Quote ="brearley84"no thanks. they dont have anyone apart from campese and kelly... but we are ok in that area.'"
Campese and Kelly aren't good enough-wouldn't want either. Campese past his best and crocked, Kelly inconsistent.
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| Quote ="brearley84"no thanks. they dont have anyone apart from campese and kelly... but we are ok in that area.'"
Adam Walker definitely but doubt he would come back to us and maybe Minns I would take. Minns is 22 I reckon he will end up being a very good centre.
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| Quote ="jools"Campese and Kelly aren't good enough-wouldn't want either. Campese past his best and crocked, Kelly inconsistent.'"
campese and kelly are class players for me but like i said we are covered in those positions. i think campese will retire and kelly will find another club soon
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Adam Walker definitely but doubt he would come back to us and maybe Minns I would take. Minns is 22 I reckon he will end up being a very good centre.'"
walker is ok but not sure we need a prop like him
we have smith to come back next season from injury so thats like a new prop and also clough from bulls to join if rumours correct.
i think josh johnson will be on his way now , shame as he has abit of mongrel in him which we lack but maybe lacks the size.. close between him and mason and i favoured johnson out of the two but mason has gone ok suppose just been asked to play too many games through senior injuries.
wood on his way too, like him as he is the type of hooker we lack with pace and can cause problems but again hes no mongrel in him and if it means a change of culture in the team then so be it. also his defence isnt good enough for a hooker.
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| Quote ="brearley84"lunty... from giants to wanting to go and play in the nrl to the championship
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Why are you so bitter towards Lunty ? It seems any Player who leaves Giants is slagged off. Lunty will be in Super League next season so watch out.
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| Quote ="simonsays"Why are you so bitter towards Lunty ? It seems any Player who leaves Giants is slagged off. Lunty will be in Super League next season so watch out.'"
That's just the way of this board mate, Lunt was and still is a good player, but for whatever reason, he left the Giants and so is in line for endless ridicule, Don't try to make any sense of it.
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| He was a good player, he is a decent player
And he gets stick because he thought he was too good for us imo
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