I think it says more about the poster really.

I agree with this and, like Ivor, cannot be a4sed reading 7 pages of stuff that is basically dumping on our own when it wont change anything for the reasons the above poster has highlighted.

Saints in the semi we were magnificent and so were the team. In the Final neither were.

You certainly were. You outsung us by a country mile and we were 2:1 in numbers. But we were relatively silent probably for the same reason your guys were relatively silent: our team was losing and it's tough to keep going with the vocal support when your team is losing. But that didn't stop many Saints fans bagging other Saints fans for not being vocal enough at the semi!

I don't think bragging is the right word. More like voicing concerns about the lack of vocal support. However, I do agree that sometimes it goes a bit over the top in trying to build a "perfect fan".

You don't need to be making lots of noise to be a good fan (although I do agree it must at times be a good boost for the team to have the fans behind them vocally) but not everyone is a singer for whatever reason and if that is how they are happy at the games then so beit - as long as they leave those who do want to sing to sing then no problems!

Are you serious?Wembley is a 'tough gig' and can be 'overwhelming' and it was always going to be 'tough' for your fans? They are just supporters required to shout the odd chant from the stands,not professional performers on debut at the Royal Albert Hall.Get real,you sound daft.

Thats the thing. Not only were our team losing, it felt as if from the 3rd minute we never looked close to winning. After spending all that money, to get an underpar performance (or so it felt), I felt a little too disheartened to sing my heart out. Saying that, I did make a bit of noise when I thought something may happen.

No, it isn't. I wrote 'bagging'.

I have a season ticket and have done for years now. I have been to watch the club all over the country, including Whitehaven on a Wednesday night when we couldn't buy a win. I'm a fourth generation Fartown fan.

But I don't wear a replica shirt (although I would if they brought out another black strip) and I don't sing or chant. Why? Because i go to a rugby match to watch rugby, if I wanted to sing I'd go to a karaoke contest. I'll cheer and shout encouragement but not sing. That's just my way of supporting the side.

None of this makes me a better or worse fan than anyone else that supports the club to the best of their ability. ATEOTD everybody is an individual and that means we will all support the club in ways that we feel appropriate but one thing unites us all. We all support the club. Full stop. As has been mentioned before you cannot berate someone because they don't share your beliefs, it's not a cult or a religion it's sport.

i dont think daz was trying to "bag" anyone or have a go at anyone i think like me and a lot of others who were trying our hardest to raise a bit of vocal support for OUR team,majority of supporters didn't want to know.
fair enough the team's performance and going behind in the first minute didn't help as most people would have been disheartened.
the thing that disappoints me is that a lot of our supporters failed to support the team on saturday,when they needed a lift, our supporters failed to do that,when the decisions for the tries went against us they needed the fans' backing,they didn't get it,im not slagging anyone off its their choice whether they want to be vocal or not, some people are happy to just sit and spectate and not get involved thats fair enough but we had enough "supporters" on saturday to make some noise and try and lift the guys but for some reason the majority chose to sit in silence.
most of the people around us were complaining about people standing up and encouraging the team. its not just singing that im talking about,im talking about just clapping the lads or shouting some encouragement for them, im afraid our lot showed no passion at all on saturday and i cant help but feel that wire fans' passion and noise helped them get on top

right, ok as the original poster can i just say that i have calmed down somewhat and maybe i was a tad harsh at first due to the emotions and dissapointment running through me at the time.

I didnt mean to 'bag' anyone or make out anyone is less of a fan because i know that you guys on here are the real fans.

i guess it was just a case of i felt a huge sense of let down as i expected the cup final to be a party occasion whatever the result but obviously others didnt share that sentiment on the day.

i'm stil sticking to my point though that we could have tried a bit harder but anyway the day is over now, the memories are still there and i'm starting to get ready for the play-offs !!!

That's exactly how a lot of us felt at the semi. You killed us with that very quick try and we really never looked like getting back into the match. You had us nailed just as Warrington had you nailed. I think Smith must have spent a long time studying that semi!

It's really dispiriting to go to Wembley and watch your team lose. I know, I've been there and done it! But don't give up. There is always next year! I know it costs but it's worth it for the win when it comes.

Get a grip look in today's examiner.

The players said the fans were great and so for that matter did the examiner.

It's the player's opinion that matters not the other fans.

I sometimes despair with long standing Huddersfield fans who only ever see the negative. We are winning by 30 and they moan at the players/ref/anybody.

As Durham giant says, loads of positives. If you're going to be negative then don't come to the game.

[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/6114635/Huddersfield-Giants-and-Warrington-Wolves-show-rugby-league-is-in-rude-health.htmlThe Daily Telegraph had good things to say about your support[/url, just scroll down a bit, so you may not have been as 'bad' as you think you were.

Quite a nice piece that, and good for RL too.

I don't need a right wing rag to tell me what our support was like.

Excellent article by the Telegraph. If only we could have as much publicity year round instead of soccer 24/7 with other sports living on scraps.

Is this thread not a little harsh?

I think nerves can often subdue a group of speccies and the early score from Warrington would definitely have done that. It was pretty quiet in our section as well at the start of the second half, only when it became apparent that you guys weren't going to run riot over us in the second half (which I know I thought was going to happen) did we all start to find our voices again.

If we had scored any of the half dozen chances we carved for ourselves in the 3rd quarter, we might have heard the two sides change volume too, but it didnt happen

How childish. You do seem to have some chips sitting firmly on your shoulders.

Would you really rather Huddersfield took 5000 to a Cup Final?

Imagine what would have got said by other teams fans if Hudds did that, they would be the laughing stock of the league.

I suppose the 30000 Warrington fans are gonna have trouble getting in the Halliwell Jones for the rest of the season as it only holds 12000 odd.

Let me quote Tony Smith
"The fans were fantastic. The players mentioned in dressing room at half time about how much we could hear and see them getting behind us. The number of them was incredible. No disrespect to the Huddersfield fans, but we outnumbered them totally, and I thought our supporters really played a big part in lifting our team. They just dominated the cheering and the atmosphere. It was just like a home game for us, except it was even more special. But they did lift us; the way they cheered us when we were under pressure really helped us through. They played their part in helping us get the win"

Read into that what you want. IMO I would have thought that fans getting on your back could affect your game in a big way but not the other way round.

And there is the my original post made for me by Tony Smith - thats what i was saying all along how we needed a lift from the crowd !!!

Unfortunately you moved away from that into criticising the fans.

The phrase sing when you are winning comes to mind.

If we had got two flukey tries and seen the other teams attempts turned down by the officials we would have been singing and Wire would have been quiet.

Then everyone would have talked about how our fans picked us up and we would all have been on the Wire board slagging their 'Quiet fans'

You are also right. There is no answer to this debate, it`s just going round in circles. If you get to the latter stages of the play offs then the cost of getting there and getting in isn`t gonna be as expensive and I`m sure you have hooked some fans who previously might have not been interested.

Fans are Fans weather you are wining or loosing,Dissgrace is a bit OTT but it does make you wonder weather the people of Huddersfeild really do want a superleague team,our team are playing at Wembley in a major final and our fans carnt be bothered to turn up ,i felt embarresed to be honest Warrington are lying in 9th and there fans cheerd there team from start to finish.