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| Going to be a very difficult game this but one we need to win to keep our play off hopes alive. For me, Its probably going to be the most interesting 19 man squad of the year so far.
Will Leroy return? I doubt it, I think they will most likely take the extra week off and bring him back against Cas. If he does play will Turner move to loose?
Will Mellor come back or will they keep him out of the team given hes apparently signed for Hull?
Will Fergie come back in? If not, surely we need to be sending him out somewhere for some game time?
Will Seb be back? hes fit and has been training but just not picked last week.
Will Frawley return?
Will English be ok to play after his heart issue last week?
I think well line up like:
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Jerry
Turner
Wardle
Innes
Gaskell
Russell
English
O Brien
Matagi
Wardle
Fergie
Bruno
Seb
Taai
Clough
Leeming
Harsh to drop Hewitt but think he will get a rest this week given his age and the position he plays. I think Seb might come back in at prop with Taai going into the 2nd row. Think Murphy is starting to look proper busted up too now and could do with a week or 2 off. Thoughts?
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| If it were me I’d have seb in and taai in second row instead of Ferguson. If he’s still not signed a contract with anyone Mellor should play- he will want to impress if he’s out for a contract. Otherwise Ferguson.
I’d love to see Leroy back, Bruno in second row outside him and so turner at LF though!
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| if we had he reserves we may have already seen ferguson and maybe cudjoe, the way the setup is now they have to be thrown straight into a super league match and its not ideal after such a lay off
will be fixed next season though when the reserves return
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| Quote ="jools"If it were me I’d have seb in and taai in second row instead of Ferguson. If he’s still not signed a contract with anyone Mellor should play- he will want to impress if he’s out for a contract. Otherwise Ferguson.
I’d love to see Leroy back, Bruno in second row outside him and so turner at LF though!'"
Its certainly going to be an interesting call. I just cant decide what Brunos best position is myself. Ive been thinking recently what his strengths and weaknesses are and I came up with:
Strengths:
Defence
Work rate
Doesnt get turned in the tackle for quick ptb
Negatives:
Ones of his positives in thatt he doesnt get turned isnt really a positive for the Giants as we hardly ever play the ball quick
Makes no yardage at all
Cant bust tackles
Hands arent too great
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Its certainly going to be an interesting call. I just cant decide what Brunos best position is myself. Ive been thinking recently what his strengths and weaknesses are and I came up with:
Strengths:
Defence
Work rate
Doesnt get turned in the tackle for quick ptb
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Ones of his positives in thatt he doesnt get turned isnt really a positive for the Giants as we hardly ever play the ball quick
Makes no yardage at all
Cant bust tackles
Hands arent too great'"
1,030 metres is hardly no yardage at all, bit harsh that
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| Prop forward for me, big minutes
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| Well definitely no Ferguson!
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| its hull kr who are trying to sign mellor.he would be better off staying with you,then signing for that dross.
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| yeh choosing hull kr over huddersfield would be a surprise but its all down to money it seems.
hes back in the team for saturday.
still no ikahihifo
and frawley again overlooked
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"yeh choosing hull kr over huddersfield would be a surprise but its all down to money it seems.
hes back in the team for saturday.
still no ikahihifo
and frawley again overlooked'"
Frawley is homesick apparently and if true I'm happy with that. Could free up some cap and help us bring a prop in.
Ikahihifo is massively out of favour again and apparently we are looking to offload him again.
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"yeh choosing hull kr over huddersfield would be a surprise but its all down to money it seems.
hes back in the team for saturday.
still no ikahihifo
and frawley again overlooked'"
Frawley is homesick apparently and if true I'm happy with that. Could free up some cap and help us bring a prop in.
Ikahihifo is massively out of favour again and apparently we are looking to offload him again.
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| Frawley missing again is not good. I’d rather he partner Gaskell than Russell.
Although he’s not set us alight I’ve seen glimpses of what he’s capable of, and he’s a more rounded half than Russell right now.
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| Quote ="jools"Frawley missing again is not good. I’d rather he partner Gaskell than Russell.
Although he’s not set us alight I’ve seen glimpses of what he’s capable of, and he’s a more rounded half than Russell right now.'"
He's not injured so the rumours could possibly be true
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Frawley is homesick apparently and if true =#FF0000I'm happy with that. Could free up some cap and help us bring a prop in.
Ikahihifo is massively out of favour again and apparently we are looking to offload him again.'"
Im not surprised he's homesick by this and other comments been banded about him . A young lad 10000 miles from away from home needs time to settle in and be made to feel welcome not to be witness to comments to such as that. We are all free to view our opinions such as these forums but theres a line crossed too often when things get personal. 'Frawley is homesick apparently' would of been suffice. Think of the impact these comments can have on the subject and his wellbeing.
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| Quote ="willo109"Im not surprised he's homesick by this and other comments been banded about him . A young lad 10000 miles from away from home needs time to settle in and be made to feel welcome not to be witness to comments to such as that. We are all free to view our opinions such as these forums but theres a line crossed too often when things get personal. 'Frawley is homesick apparently' would of been suffice. Think of the impact these comments can have on the subject and his wellbeing.'"
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Frawley is homesick apparently and if true I'm happy with that. Could free up some cap and help us bring a prop in.
Ikahihifo is massively out of favour again and apparently we are looking to offload him again.'"
we would still need someone to partner gaskell, maybe holmes but not seen enough of him yet.
frawley hasnt been great on what he has shown so far wouldnt be a loss but yes players do need to time to settle especially in a new country.
well woolford upset the apple cart with ikahihifo in pre season by wanting him out, said this is a good way to de motivate a player and its happened... shame as when hes on form hes one of the best props in the league, bad man management from woolford for me this
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"we would still need someone to partner gaskell, maybe holmes but not seen enough of him yet.
frawley hasnt been great on what he has shown so far wouldnt be a loss but yes players do need to time to settle especially in a new country.
well woolford upset the apple cart with ikahihifo in pre season by wanting him out, said this is a good way to de motivate a player and its happened... shame as when hes on form hes one of the best props in the league, bad man management from woolford for me this'"
The players, their friends, wives and families DO read these forums yes!
Re seb- perhaps it’s really good man management-you could argue that he’s put the player under pressure and he hasn’t risen to the occasion- perhaps he wants someone with more fire in their belly and an attitude to succeed rather than someone who doesnt fight for their place.
We’ve all seen what happens to the heads of some of our players when things don’t go their way- one word woolford has used a lot is resilience and bemoaned the lack of it. .......
I fully expected seb to come out all guns blazing, to prove a point, and us see the seb of 2017- I cant say we have in all honesty.
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| The ultimate embarrassment- We have been overtaken by Salford in ticket sales for magic weekend.
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| I still don’t get why people hate on frawely , yes he’s not been Jackson hasting level but he hasn’t been bad and I thought him and Gaskell look alright together , he’s still a young lad
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| Quote ="Joehudds"I still don’t get why people hate on frawely , yes he’s not been Jackson hasting level but he hasn’t been bad and I thought him and Gaskell look alright together , he’s still a young lad'"
He isnt "bad" but will likely be paid 4/5 x the amount say Holmes and Russell are paid and isn't much better, thats my problem
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"He isnt "bad" but will likely be paid 4/5 x the amount say Holmes and Russell are paid and isn't much better, thats my problem'"
Agree, Frawley is solid but when Gaskell has been missing he has never stepped up, I've personally seen more in Russell and Farrell so far this season. Still young so time to turn it around, but as one of our highest paid players I don't personally see him as good value
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"He isnt "bad" but will likely be paid 4/5 x the amount say Holmes and Russell are paid and isn't much better, thats my problem'"
true for the money hes one and quota spot taken dont think we are getting value for money
may still come good but right now seeing nothing more than what a championship half back offers
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| personally i'd look to develop Russell and Holmes and try and move either frawley or gaskell on and bring in a top quality half back and a big no nonsene pacific islander prop
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| Quote ="SpainesRoadFartown"personally i'd look to develop Russell and Holmes and try and move either frawley or gaskell on and bring in a top quality half back and a big no nonsene pacific islander prop'"
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| If Mellor plays as expected we have to line up like:
Darnell
Jerry
Turner
Wardle
Innes
Gaskell
Russell
Matagi
O Brien
English
Mellor
Wardle
Bruno
Taai
Leeming
Clough
Hewitt or Murphy (on Form you have to pick Hewitt)
Feel Hull will get the better of the opening stages, as most teams tend to do against us. With Houghton apparently out still for Hull, I think ill be looking to Leeming to win us this game and make a huge impact when he comes on.
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