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| so after a dreadful easter weekend results wise we face castleford away on sunday.
we played alot better against salford and should have had the 2 points really.
we welcome back wardle and picked up no further injuries so we are going to have our best team out for a while and starting to get those combos working.
the team is very low on confidence though and always hard to win at cas but can be done as we have shown in the past. they have won only 2 more games than us.
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| Winnable, but like you say confidence is down and we need to start picking up points, just hope the players relax and not try and force things to try and win as that's when we make most of our mistakes.
Always a good away day at Cas though win or lose and these games have gone either way in the past.
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| Cas would be a good place to start and get things going, They are one of the better sides to watch and it will be a good atmosphere,
As brearley has said we have a good side to put out, and we weren't blown away by Salford so onward and upward. I can't go to this game sadly which is poor cause it brings back a lot of fond memories for me going to Cas.
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| With more of the injured/suspended players getting back into the 17 to form a more competitive matchday squad and a little change of luck it could paint a whole different picture for us in a month or two. I'm expecting (hoping) to come away with the 2 points this weekend and for us to kick on for the rest of the season with hopefully a very good cup run to come. Just think we could have a stinker in the league and miss out on the playoffs but still end up running out at Wembley, sport can be a funny old game.
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| lets hope all the rumours have now gone to bed for a while i have a sneaky feeling with the wright team we could just nick this one i would personally like to see tansey at full back if hes still here put wardle to centre and give foster a go on the wing connors defense and discipline has let him down and murphys having a nightmare do think he will come good if he has to fight for his place like when broughton was here young brierly looked very nervous at full back to me and the likes of luke gale would be testing him allday think he would be better in the middle running of brough with wood interchanging with hinchcliffe at hooker leeming does speed it up when he comes on but think wood is more creative and would give more impact on the bench
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| Quote ="moggie"With more of the injured/suspended players getting back into the 17 to form a more competitive matchday squad and a little change of luck it could paint a whole different picture for us in a month or two. I'm expecting (hoping) to come away with the 2 points this weekend and for us to kick on for the rest of the season with hopefully a very good cup run to come. Just think we could have a stinker in the league and miss out on the playoffs but still end up running out at Wembley, sport can be a funny old game.'"
sure we are targeting the cup and would be great to lift the mood ...shame every other club targets it too!
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| Quote ="butcher giants"lets hope all the rumours have now gone to bed for a while i have a sneaky feeling with the wright team we could just nick this one i would personally like to see tansey at full back if hes still here put wardle to centre and give foster a go on the wing connors defense and discipline has let him down and murphys having a nightmare do think he will come good if he has to fight for his place like when broughton was here young brierly looked very nervous at full back to me and the likes of luke gale would be testing him allday think he would be better in the middle running of brough with wood interchanging with hinchcliffe at hooker leeming does speed it up when he comes on but think wood is more creative and would give more impact on the bench'"
was thinking we could put murphy to centre and foster back on the wing, can leave wardle in 2nd row then.
give brierley time.
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| for this game i would be tempted to go with Connor to full back....wardle in at centre and brierley to half back
wood to hooker and leave leeming out
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| Quote ="butcher giants"lets hope all the rumours have now gone to bed for a while i have a sneaky feeling with the wright team we could just nick this one i would personally like to see tansey at full back if hes still here put wardle to centre and give foster a go on the wing connors defense and discipline has let him down and murphys having a nightmare do think he will come good if he has to fight for his place like when broughton was here young brierly looked very nervous at full back to me and the likes of luke gale would be testing him allday think he would be better in the middle running of brough with wood interchanging with hinchcliffe at hooker leeming does speed it up when he comes on but think wood is more creative and would give more impact on the bench'"
Only change I would make is foster in for Murphy. I'm convinced Murphy is carrying an injury and I don't get why we are playing him if that's true considering his poor form. Connor has been attacking very well and shouldn't be dropped- he needs to work on his defence yes but Murphy being out of sorts hasn't helped that cause.
IF wardle plays it should be second row- although Olli doesn't deserve to be dropped he isn't playing the minutes Wardle can give us yet. Personally I'd make Wardle earn his place. Larne, Lawrence and taai are needed too much in defence to drop in place of Wardle.
All these change this to that and that to this people are suggesting is why we are where we are to start with. What we need right now is consistency not NB style tinkering. Brierley has been brought to play fullback- that's where he should play.
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| personally id like to see a settled side and get the combinations working. All this chopping and changing just seems to be confusing everyone. I understood at the start of the season as injuries were a part but theres no excuse now. i for one still believe we can reach the tops 8s with the squad we have got and who knows maybe a day out at wembley.
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| yep need to settle things down now when picking the players need some fluency and consistency which we havent had yet, just wardle to come back in this week will be fine in the 2nd row.
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| I'd start with...
Connor
Jerry
Leroy
Wardle
Tansey
Brough
Brierley
Crabtree
Hinchcliffe
Huby
Taai
Patrick
Lawrence
I think we put brierley at full back again were stupid, Connors still young give him time in one position and he'll adapt to it and start performing. Wardle is his best when he's at centre so keep him there with tansey on the outside. I think if brierley has a couple of games at half back we'll start to see what he can do
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| Brierley has been brought to play at fullback!!!! i think we put him in at halfback we are more stupid.
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| He's obviously his best when he's at half back so I can't understand why we're putting him at half back, we've got a lot of options at full back tansey, foster, Murphy, Connor, grix etc
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| Quote ="GiantsForLife"He's obviously his best when he's at half back so I can't understand why we're putting him at half back, we've got a lot of options at full back tansey, foster, Murphy, Connor, grix etc'"
Tansey is going next week, foster hasn't got a contract, Murphy is having a nightmare and the last place I'd put him at the moment is fullback which needs a confident player. . Grix is injured and OOC -I can't see him 0playing another game for us. Why is he "obviously his best when he's half back" I thought he was better for us against Salford than he was against Wakey.
I honestly don't think he has the skill set to make a proper SL halfback, he doesnt organise and can't kick. Look at what happened when he came up against full time players in the middle every week in the middle 8s. I think he does have the skill set to be a good attacking FB- IF it's proven he can organise the defence. The juries out so far but play him in the position he was brought to play- as grixs replacement. And please god stop moving players around!!!!!
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| Quote ="GiantsForLife"I'd start with...
Connor
Jerry
Leroy
Wardle
Tansey
Brough
Brierley
Crabtree
Hinchcliffe
Huby
Taai
Patrick
Lawrence
I think we put brierley at full back again were stupid, Connors still young give him time in one position and he'll adapt to it and start performing. Wardle is his best when he's at centre so keep him there with tansey on the outside. I think if brierley has a couple of games at half back we'll start to see what he can do
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not another change at full back, wing and half back please!!! we need the opposite.
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| Quote ="brearley84"not another change at full back, wing and half back please!!! we need the opposite.'"
Spot on!
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| We are ravaged by injuries. On Sunday we are likely to be missing:
Luke Dorn
Denny Solomona
Michael Shenton
Ben Roberts
Junior Moors
Oliver Holmes
Lee Jewitt
Matt Cook
Gadwin Springer
Frankie Mariano.
All apart from Springer and Mariano would probably be in our first-choice 17.
If you can't beat us with this injury list, you have a problem.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"We are ravaged by injuries. On Sunday we are likely to be missing:
Luke Dorn
Denny Solomona
Michael Shenton
Ben Roberts
Junior Moors
Oliver Holmes
Lee Jewitt
Matt Cook
Gadwin Springer
Frankie Mariano.
All apart from Springer and Mariano would probably be in our first-choice 17.
If you can't beat us with this injury list, you have a problem.'"
We are bottom- it's quite clear we have a problem.
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| Quote ="jools"Tansey is going next week, foster hasn't got a contract, Murphy is having a nightmare and the last place I'd put him at the moment is fullback which needs a confident player. . Grix is injured and OOC -I can't see him 0playing another game for us. Why is he "obviously his best when he's half back" I thought he was better for us against Salford than he was against Wakey.
I honestly don't think he has the skill set to make a proper SL halfback, he doesnt organise and can't kick. Look at what happened when he came up against full time players in the middle every week in the middle 8s. I think he does have the skill set to be a good attacking FB- IF it's proven he can organise the defence. The juries out so far but play him in the position he was brought to play- as grixs replacement. And please god stop moving players around!!!!!'"
are you drunk? He's played at Leigh in the halves for however many years changing him to full back is gonna do no good at all, he isn't full back he's a half back who "can play full back" he has the skill talent and potential to be up there with the best halves in SL but were shoving him at full back where his talents going to be wasted
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| His strengths are running through gaps, pace, collecting offloads etc.....exactly what we need at Full back i'd say.
Ask the Leigh fans he was never an organiser at Leigh, he didn't take the line on - that was Ridyard or Beswick most of the time. Ryan scored a lot of his tries by backing up breaks and using his pace...Cannot wait to see him do that for us !
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"His strengths are running through gaps, pace, collecting offloads etc.....exactly what we need at Full back i'd say.
Ask the Leigh fans he was never an organiser at Leigh, he didn't take the line on - that was Ridyard or Beswick most of the time. Ryan scored a lot of his tries by backing up breaks and using his pace...Cannot wait to see him do that for us !'"
We have a organizer , are you saying he can't play off Brough just as well as Ridyard or Beswick, which is where he scored all his tries from ( as you say ) But you see him as a natural fullback.
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| Didn't say natural full back, i meant i can see why we'd want to play him there, we've Wood and Ellis to play off Broughy.
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| Quote ="GiantsForLife"are you drunk? He's played at Leigh in the halves for however many years changing him to full back is gonna do no good at all, he isn't full back he's a half back who "can play full back" he has the skill talent and potential to be up there with the best halves in SL but were shoving him at full back where his talents going to be wasted'"
Nope- not been drunk since drowning my sorrows after Wakey.
Danny kirmond played at Featherstone on the wing for 3 years and scored more than a try every two games. He probably wouldn't have made it in SL in quite the same way doing the same against full time professionals- which is why he was successfully switched.
I've not seen much of brierley- but what I have seen suggests he wouldn't be as effective at half back in SL up against fitter professionals every week. He was anonymous against Wakey. (Also See middle 8s performances). Plenty of Leigh fans agree a switch to FB would be a good one for him, as do our coaching staff- that consists of two ex half backs. Good enough for me.
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| Quote ="jools"Nope- not been drunk since drowning my sorrows after Wakey.
Danny kirmond played at Featherstone on the wing for 3 years and scored more than a try every two games. He probably wouldn't have made it in SL in quite the same way doing the same against full time professionals- which is why he was successfully switched.
I've not seen much of brierley- but what I have seen suggests he wouldn't be as effective at half back in SL up against fitter professionals every week. He was anonymous against Wakey. (Also See middle 8s performances). Plenty of Leigh fans agree a switch to FB would be a good one for him, as do our coaching staff- that consists of two ex half backs. Good enough for me.'"
Sorry jools but I disagree, his talent is at half back and putting him at full back would be wasting what could be a very dangerous partnership in Brough and brierley
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