Only problem is we always stay under the radar but for it to be worth it you have to appear above it and show you have something about you year in year out players pipe up saying we are ready to do this, we are going to do that etc but alas that is all it ever is...talk.

On another note 33-1 Eorl Sky MOM has got to be worth a shot he would be very short odds to get the sponsors MOM and hopefully Stevo will be equally sentimental and go with him.

But points difference between us an Saints is now only 18 in our favour. So will have to keep winning and stop giving sloppy tries away

mathematically it's still possible that the semi finalists will change but will need a dramatic change in fortunes from 2 sides not to mention a huge points swing.

does every minute still matter then with 3 games to go?

Looks like every minute mattered up to the last 3 games, which is better than previous seasons and structures. In the end looks like the top 4 and certainly the top 2 were much better than fifth and below.

At the ground on Thursday we were thinking back to our first 3 games and that dull game when hull nilled us. And then the Salford defeat - chase on ferres - defeat.

Come a long way since then. And still think we haven't played our best for more than 60 minutes in any game. Hopefully we saving that for our fourth and fifth games.

correct, and as me an many others said to the knee jerkers and the anderson out brigade, see where we are at the end of the season, not after 3 games.
we still haven't played particularly well in most of the games, but we are finding ways to win, when earlier in the season we were finding ways to lose! wigan,leeds,and saints away to name just 3.and at this stage of the season you have to win games

saying that though apart from the Hull and leeds cup games we haven't had many shockers either

Wigan away in Super8s was us finding a way to lose imo