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| Was in the big room after the game and the phrase that kept getting said was we had a bad week behind the scenes but there was a silver lining because the group of lads that’s left are willing to play for each other and you can tell this on the field it’s a shame the lads did not want to play for each other during the season it’s took something drastic for us to stand together. Just get to end of season and hopefully win silverware and then evaluate our situation then
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Was in the big room after the game and the phrase that kept getting said was we had a bad week behind the scenes but there was a silver lining because the group of lads that’s left are willing to play for each other and you can tell this on the field it’s a shame the lads did not want to play for each other during the season it’s took something drastic for us to stand together. Just get to end of season and hopefully win silverware and then evaluate our situation then'"
Well I beg to differ slightly
Of course fantastic to see the way the current group are standing together, but apart from those first few games I reckon that team gelled pretty darn well
At the beginning of the season I think we all took things for granted, even as a mere fan I was thinking ahead to the M8's before a ball was kicked - just shows what sports all about doesn't it
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Was in the big room after the game and the phrase that kept getting said was we had a bad week behind the scenes but there was a silver lining because the group of lads that’s left are willing to play for each other and you can tell this on the field it’s a shame the lads did not want to play for each other during the season it’s took something drastic for us to stand together. Just get to end of season and hopefully win silverware and then evaluate our situation then'"
We will not be evaluating anything come the end of the season, by that time I would hope we all know what fate awaits us in 2019, barring any 'Angel' with bigger pockets than sense turning up the future is not looking to rosy.
Before I am accused of being a doom and gloom merchant look at the facts, Our owner and main benefactor has found the situation untenable in so much that he cannot afford to bankroll the club any longer, the central funding we will be awarded will hardly pay the salaries of those still contracted within the club should they hold out for their contracts to be honoured saving voluntarily leaving, will other clubs give them jobs out of season, doubt it, they like all of us have to live. Could we even pay the rent for playing out of the LSV?
Question, Is administration even an option, what assests are tangable enough that the club owns for an appointed officer to satsfy any creditors? That being the case without Derek or some other financier is liquidation i.e. the winding up of the company the only other option open, whereby we would have no club, no players, no staff, no home or ground, nothing. Could someone with a broader knowledge of these situations please clarify and quantify these two options, and any other pathways or solutions available to the club.
What I really want is statement from the players when this comes to a head one way or another about what really went on in those first couple of months of this season, was there an underlying message in their collective performances or where they just not good enough?
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| Quote ="ColD"Well I beg to differ slightly
Of course fantastic to see the way the current group are standing together, but apart from those first few games I reckon that team gelled pretty darn well
At the beginning of the season I think we all took things for granted, even as a mere fan I was thinking ahead to the M8's before a ball was kicked - just shows what sports all about doesn't it'"
Did those players new to the club consider they were on an easy ride with the fans?
I remember all to well the first game of the season against Toronto, great start 12 nil to the good then easily caputualted and were well beaten. My prefered viewing position is at the very top on the North Stand, at the conclusion of the game on decending the terraces I could not believe how many people were happy enough with that completely lack lustre performance with seemingly not enough effort on display that they were actually applauding and giving the team a rapturous ovation when the players walked to that end of the field, perhaps if some derision had been displayed from the fans with a strong message of "not good enough" instead of the mollycoddling overprotection they awarded them a different attitude may have been forthcoming, unless they simply were not good enough.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"What I really want is statement from the players when this comes to a head one way or another about what really went on in those first couple of months of this season, was there an underlying message in their collective performances or where they just not good enough?'"
Most likely in my opinion is that the players were of a much higher standard than the Head Coach, a Head Coach who really for all intent & purpose was an Assistant Coach to KC & they did not like or want to play for those 2 in the way they were being forced to, of course I could be way off the mark but somehow I think not.
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| Quote ="ColD"Well I beg to differ slightly
Of course fantastic to see the way the current group are standing together, but apart from those first few games I reckon that team gelled pretty darn well
At the beginning of the season I think we all took things for granted, even as a mere fan I was thinking ahead to the M8's before a ball was kicked - just shows what sports all about doesn't it'"
The team gelled well for a spell of around 10 games or so between the first cup game and blackpool. After Blackpool there was a drop off, even in games we won. This is why we didn't come close to overhauling points difference from Fev, London and Toulouse.
I think the Barrow game is a prime example. We won 38-0. I think the full time would've probably won something like 50-24. Two or three players that left weren't interested in defending when things were going against them.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Most likely in my opinion is that the players were of a much higher standard than the Head Coach, a Head Coach who really for all intent & purpose was an Assistant Coach to KC & they did not like or want to play for those 2 in the way they were being forced to, of course I could be way off the mark but somehow I think not.'"
Pretty much sums it up. Wonder how Jukes feels now seeing the Catalans Dragons 6 and 7 (squad # 6 and 33) in a Challenge Cup final. What a missed opportunity with these 2.
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| Quote ="Centurino"Pretty much sums it up. Wonder how Jukes feels now seeing the Catalans Dragons 6 and 7 (squad # 6 and 33) in a Challenge Cup final. What a missed opportunity with these 2.'"
To be fair, this is a very different Josh Drinkwater than the one at Leigh, he actually looks interested in performing his skills either he couldn't be bothered when he was with us or he is simply surrounded by much better players now, as for Langi apart from his debut game at Warrington when he was totally pants he never pur a foot wrong after, in fact in those games he played he proved to be one of our better players in my opinion.
But still Jukes and Cunningham are the reasons they are not with us.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"To be fair, this is a very different Josh Drinkwater than the one at Leigh, he actually looks interested in performing his skills either he couldn't be bothered when he was with us or he is simply surrounded by much better players now, as for Langi apart from his debut game at Warrington when he was totally pants he never pur a foot wrong after, in fact in those games he played he proved to be one of our better players in my opinion.
But still Jukes and Cunningham are the reasons they are not with us.'"
Ahhhh,Neil Jukes he was to Coaching rugby that Paul o Grady is to playing it,even Rose Bridge let him go.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Ahhhh,Neil Jukes he was to Coaching rugby that Paul o Grady is to playing it,even Rose Bridge let him go.'"
Ian, the problem is,the main Honcho refused to act to that very problem.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"To be fair, this is a very different Josh Drinkwater than the one at Leigh, he actually looks interested in performing his skills either he couldn't be bothered when he was with us or he is simply surrounded by much better players now, as for Langi apart from his debut game at Warrington when he was totally pants he never pur a foot wrong after, in fact in those games he played he proved to be one of our better players in my opinion.
But still Jukes and Cunningham are the reasons they are not with us.'"
As he eluded to in the League Express, Jukes held him to a system, wouldn't let him play what's in front of him. McNamara did exactly that. And I forgot to add Jukes preferred Burt Reynolds to Langi at 6.
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| Quote ="Centurino"As he eluded to in the League Express, Jukes held him to a system, wouldn't let him play what's in front of him. McNamara did exactly that. And I forgot to add Jukes preferred Burt Reynolds to Langi at 6.'"
Jukesy preferred Debbie Reynolds to Langi at 6.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Jukesy preferred Debbie Reynolds to Langi at 6.'"
This persistence with ‘Burt’ Reynolds this season also cost us as it meant the best stand off in the championship left for one of our main rivals, and carried out a half back masterpiece performance against us at the L.S.V.
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"This persistence with ‘Burt’ Reynolds this season also cost us as it meant the best stand off in the championship left for one of our main rivals, and carried out a half back masterpiece performance against us at the L.S.V.'"
Yes but only played half the games at best
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"Yes but only played half the games at best'"
If he'd played the first 6 games for us, we'd have been in a far better position.
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"This persistence with ‘Burt’ Reynolds this season also cost us as it meant the best stand off in the championship left for one of our main rivals, and carried out a half back masterpiece performance against us at the L.S.V.'"
CL, for me I would welcome Riddy back ,with a Red Carpet,I'm not sure it will happen though, I'd give it a go to bring Higson back as well, along with Brierley,they are Leythers after all.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"CL, for me I would welcome Riddy back ,with a Red Carpet,I'm not sure it will happen though, I'd give it a go to bring Higson back as well, along with Brierley,they are Leythers after all.'"
Agree with all 3
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| Quote ="LeythIg"If he'd played the first 6 games for us, we'd have been in a far better position.'"
Wouldn't matter who played them 1st 6 games all the team was terrible but yes I would have riddy back not only for his passing but his kicking game also
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"CL, for me I would welcome Riddy back ,with a Red Carpet,I'm not sure it will happen though, I'd give it a go to bring Higson back as well, along with =#FF0000Brierley,they are Leythers after all.'"
Good evening, Charles, hope you are well? Thought Brierley was a Salford supporting Keh's Yedder with a thistle on his change strip. But then not many have been as pure Leythe as that in recent times.
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| Maybe it was Jukes's fault both the players brought in to bolster us through the 8s last year got injured as well
Hindsight , marvellous thing
As I understand it , it was Riddy's fitness level upon returning after the off season that put him out of favour , was that Niels fault as well ?
You can all postulate about what should or shouldn't have happened , it gone , they've gone , we have who we have now
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Good evening, Charles, hope you are well? Thought Brierley was a Salford supporting Keh's Yedder with a thistle on his change strip. But then not many have been as pure Leythe as that in recent times.
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Im well Bongser I realise Brierley isn't a born and bred Leyther,they are a dying breed,born in the Firs,but I felt he showed a great deal of enjoyment when scoring for us,and never let the kids down,when making appearences to functions and folks houses.
I always thought he was a talented lad,and would have him back in a shot,him and Riddy were good together.Charlie knows.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"CL, for me I would welcome Riddy back ,with a Red Carpet,I'm not sure it will happen though, I'd give it a go to bring Higson back as well, along with Brierley,they are Leythers after all.'"
Brierley isn't a Leyther though, Cow Yed *Westhoughton* & a Salford fan.
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Brierley isn't a Leyther though, Cow Yed *Westhoughton* & a Salford fan.'"
Ste , I do know he isn't a born and bred, they are a dying breed.I also know his love of Salford, it's just I feel he has an infinity with Leigh,and maybe could be tempted to return, just my opinion obviously,but I think he along with Riddy could do a good job for us next season, given the chance .I realise this season isn't over yet, but realistically it's down to one game against Fev, I THINK,that's why I feel Derek should make his mind up as soon as poss,and we can start planning for next year.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Ste , I do know he isn't a born and bred, they are a dying breed.I also know his love of Salford, it's just I feel he has an infinity with Leigh,and maybe could be tempted to return, just my opinion obviously,but I think he along with Riddy could do a good job for us next season, given the chance .I realise this season isn't over yet, but realistically it's down to one game against Fev, I THINK,that's why I feel Derek should make his mind up as soon as poss,and we can start planning for next year.'"
Brierley is only good at one thing, chiming into the line, & timing *2 things* & pace *3 things* ......
Brierley is only good at 3 things .....
*but he is also a lightweight & a defensive turnstile just like Greg Mc*
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