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| At last! Widnes have to beat Catalans to guarantee instant promotion, which they will. We WILL beat London to have a home game in the MPG. WE WILL WIN THAT. Super league again next season.
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| Quote ="chris 35"At last! Widnes have to beat Catalans to guarantee instant promotion, which they will. We WILL beat London to have a home game in the MPG. WE WILL WIN THAT. Super league again next season.'"
Good man.
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| Quote ="chris 35"At last! Widnes have to beat Catalans to guarantee instant promotion, which they will. We WILL beat London to have a home game in the MPG. WE WILL WIN THAT. Super league again next season.'"
If, Neil Jukes plays a centre at centre, a stand-off at stand-off, a second row at second row, etc... It would be great if we could see a winning team remain consistent for consecutive weeks.
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| Quote ="Centurino"If Neil Jukes plays a centre at centre, a stand-off at stand-off, a second row at second row, etc... It would be great if we could see a winning team remain consistent for 2 consecutive weeks.'"
If we had the opportunity to put the same team for 2 consecutive it would be great, we have been hit hard with injuries and suspensions all season (and yes, no doubt others have also) and it seems to be continuing.
Time for everyone to pull together and roar us home, no point doom and gloom, get on with it and get it done
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| Right, so who's going down. Cats, Leigh or Widnes.
Who will be in the MPG, Leigh and ............
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| Cats look the most vulnerable.
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| Best of luck, if that were to be.
Interesting league for the RFL, Toulouse, Cats, and Toronto.
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| Yes,it's called expansion.One goes up one goes down.Should have created the same structure a decade ago.
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| Yep, one goes down, one goes up.
Got that.
Barcelona, Paris, Montreal, New York, Moscow, Pyongyang........what could go wrong.
Next thing we'll be moving into Kent, Wales, and Scotland.
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| Quote ="ColD"If we had the opportunity to put the same team for 2 consecutive it would be great, we have been hit hard with injuries and suspensions all season (and yes, no doubt others have also) and it seems to be continuing.
Time for everyone to pull together and roar us home, no point doom and gloom, get on with it and get it done'"
Injury would have been a valid reason-why a 3rd into the season, now it's denial. Poor decisions and a fragmented environment could very well jeopardise great investment. Next weeks team selection is absolutely critical -- but does Jukes know his best team yet?
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| Quote ="Rover"Yep, one goes down, on goes up.
Got that.
Barcelona, Paris, Montreal, New York, Moscow, Pyongyang........what could go wrong.
Next thing we'll be moving into =#40FF00Kent, Wales, and Scotland.'"
I can get a bus to there. The others I'm struggling with..
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| Quote ="Centurino"Injury would have been a valid reason-why a 3rd into the season, now it's denial. Poor decisions and a fragmented environment could very well jeopardise great investment. Next weeks team selection is absolutely critical -- but does Jukes know his best team yet?'"
He most likely does know his best team, unfortunately nigh on 50% of it looks as though will be unavailable for the rest of the season. Whether you agree or disagree with his coaching this season even the most experienced coach would be scratching their heads at the moment
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| Quote ="ColD"He most likely does know his best team, unfortunately nigh on 50% of it looks as though will be unavailable for the rest of the season. Whether you agree or disagree with his coaching this season even the most experienced coach would be scratching their heads at the moment'"
Spot on Col.
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| Quote ="ColD"He most likely does know his best team, unfortunately nigh on 50% of it looks as though will be unavailable for the rest of the season. Whether you agree or disagree with his coaching this season even the most experienced coach would be scratching their heads at the moment'"
If you could list the players unavailable for the Halifax or London game through injury or suspension, that would be great.
Also please enlighten us, the reason why the second most experienced stand-off at the club (Reynolds) hasn't played consistently this year even though when he does, Leigh more often than not, win the game.
Thanks
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| Quote ="Centurino"If you could list the players unavailable for the Halifax or London game through injury or suspension, that would be great.
Also please enlighten us, the reason why the second most experienced stand-off at the club (Reynolds) hasn't played consistently this year even though when he does, Leigh more often than not, win the game.
Thanks'"
Higson, Ridyard, Hock, Higham, Mortimer, Acton not available through injury/suspension.
Dawson, Vea, Green & Hopkins weren't considered for the Halifax game, for whatever reason.
Mortimer is probably the major reason that Reynolds wasn't selected for a spell. Reynolds had looked jaded (in my opinion) and appears to have come back well refreshed these past couple of weeks, although his goal kicking seems to have gone to pot, during his absence! For what it's worth, my take on that is that he is now stabbing at the ball, and not following through. Consequently he is now not getting any height on his goal kicks. I would rather hope that someone like Paul Cooke should be able to see that and help Ben to rectify it!
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| Quote ="Alan"Higson, Ridyard, Hock, Higham, Mortimer, Acton not available through injury/suspension.
Dawson, Vea, Green & Hopkins weren't considered for the Halifax game, for whatever reason.
Mortimer is probably the major reason that Reynolds wasn't selected for a spell. Reynolds had looked jaded (in my opinion) and appears to have come back well refreshed these past couple of weeks, although his goal kicking seems to have gone to pot, during his absence! For what it's worth, my take on that is that he is now stabbing at the ball, and not following through. Consequently he is now not getting any height on his goal kicks. I would rather hope that someone like Paul Cooke should be able to see that and help Ben to rectify it!'"
Perhaps he should be a straight up and down bullet kicker like we used to be Alan. And while we're at it he could dig his own mound to put the ball on!
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| Quote ="Brian Wood"Perhaps he should be a straight up and down bullet kicker like we used to be Alan. And while we're at it he could dig his own mound to put the ball on!'"
The straight bullet style worked for one of the finest kickers I have ever seen grace the game. Jimmy Legard. Mal Meninga is probably the last player in modern times to adopt the bullet way and he had a great record also.
Jimmy had an interesting take on that style. He once told me it allows you a small amount of error and still land a successful conversion as opposed to the modern 'round the corner' style where you had to hit the ball smack bang on a specific spot.
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| Quote ="Brian Wood"Perhaps he should be a straight up and down bullet kicker like we used to be Alan. And while we're at it=#FF0000 he could dig his own mound to put the ball on!'"
And the groundsman's reaction to that would be.....?
Those were the days - before the tee had been invented.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"The straight bullet style worked for one of the finest kickers I have ever seen grace the game. Jimmy Legard. Mal Meninga is probably the last player in modern times to adopt the bullet way and he had a great record also.
Jimmy had an interesting take on that style. He once told me it allows you a small amount of error and still land a successful conversion as opposed to the modern 'round the corner' style where you had to hit the ball smack bang on a specific spot.'"
Didn't Jimmy stand the ball straight up? Stuart Ferguson used to point it at the posts, and he was some kicker. I once witnessed, at the Grammar School, a competition, between Bev Risman and our sports master, Charles Hughes. Bev used to point the ball at the posts, and Charles, being a soccer man, kicked 'round the corner' - the first time I had ever seen that style. (it was the 60's!) From memory, both were equally successful.
Personally, every time I tried 'round the corner' I used to fall over! At one training session at Tyldesley, Brian Fallon tried everything to get me kicking with the ball stood straight up, but I was a stubborn beggar, and wasn't going to change my style. He reckoned my straight up kicks were successful, but I reckon he was only trying to encourage me, as I was kicking in the dark!
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| Quote ="Alan"Didn't Jimmy stand the ball straight up? Stuart Ferguson used to point it at the posts, and he was some kicker. I once witnessed, at the Grammar School, a competition, between Bev Risman and our sports master, Charles Hughes. Bev used to point the ball at the posts, and Charles, being a soccer man, kicked 'round the corner' - the first time I had ever seen that style. (it was the 60's!) From memory, both were equally successful.
Personally, every time I tried 'round the corner' I used to fall over! At one training session at Tyldesley, Brian Fallon tried everything to get me kicking with the ball stood straight up, but I was a stubborn beggar, and wasn't going to change my style. He reckoned my straight up kicks were successful, but I reckon he was only trying to encourage me, as I was kicking in the dark!'"
Jimmy did, with great success.
I always felt I had more power , round the corner , but more accuracy the other way and therefore round the corner was coached out of me.
Even way back then I was revolutionary when it came to rugby, way ahead of my time
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| Quote ="Alan"Higson, Ridyard, Hock, Higham, Mortimer, Acton not available through injury/suspension.
Dawson, Vea, Green & Hopkins weren't considered for the Halifax game, for whatever reason.
Mortimer is probably the major reason that Reynolds wasn't selected for a spell. Reynolds had looked jaded (in my opinion) and appears to have come back well refreshed these past couple of weeks, although his goal kicking seems to have gone to pot, during his absence! For what it's worth, my take on that is that he is now stabbing at the ball, and not following through. Consequently he is now not getting any height on his goal kicks. I would rather hope that someone like Paul Cooke should be able to see that and help Ben to rectify it!'"
So, from a squad of 30 players we actually have Brown, Higham, Hock, Langi, Mortimer and Paterson injured. That's 20%, not even close to 50%. Suspensions (Acton), and retiree's (Weston) 6.7%. The rest (Foster, Green, Higson, Hampshire, Ridyard, Thompson) 20% Jukes has chosen to exclude. And that doesn't even include Hopkins reportedly not in Jukes' good books.
Confused dot com
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| Quote ="Centurino"So, from a squad of 30 players we actually have Brown, Higham, Hock, Langi, Mortimer and Paterson injured. That's 20%, not even close to 50%. Suspensions (Acton), and retiree's (Weston) 6.7%. The rest (Foster, Green, Higson, Hampshire, Ridyard, Thompson) 20% Jukes has chosen to exclude. And that doesn't even include Hopkins reportedly not in Jukes' good books.
Confused dot com'"
We had a squad of 30 players?
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Quote ="LeythIg"We had a squad of 30 players?'"
https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/2017-squad/
Edit: That is a damn good squad and it appears the ROI has been abysmal. I recall a Widnes fan recently posted that Leigh had invested a lot more than Widnes had in their squad.
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https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/2017-squad/
Edit: That is a damn good squad and it appears the ROI has been abysmal. I recall a Widnes fan recently posted that Leigh had invested a lot more than Widnes had in their squad.
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| Quote ="Centurino"https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/2017-squad/
Edit: That is a damn good squad and it appears the ROI has been abysmal. I recall a Widnes fan recently posted that Leigh had invested a lot more than Widnes had in their squad.'"
Agree with that, we should be in a better position than we are given the investment. Don't think it was a top 8 squad by any stretch, but think top 10 was achievable, whereas we are going into the mpg more in hope than expectation.
Hopefully lessons will be learned whatever division we are in, and we have a management and coaching staff working well with each other and the players.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Agree with that, we should be in a better position than we are given the investment. Don't think it was a top 8 squad by any stretch, but think top 10 was achievable, whereas we are going into the mpg more in hope than expectation.
Hopefully lessons will be learned whatever division we are in, and we have a management and coaching staff working well with each other and the players.'"
Don't know about all the staff working together degsy told jukes straight after game that it's rubbish to watch and not good enough but not that kindly if you know what I mean
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