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| Rules are the same for everyone, don't moan about people exploiting a system when you are able to do exactly the same.
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| Quote ="Paul_Lyon"www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/33759453
this needs to be sorted for next year- the team that got you to the Super 8s should be the one to play in it.'"
If we hadn't made the signings we have we wouldn't even be able to field a 17 with the players that we have lost this season.
We have more or less replaced the players that we have lost.
Would you not want your team to do the same in those circumstances?
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| I wouldnt see it as a bad thing. It looks like teams are panic buying at getting any player they can. Alot of the players brought into the lower teams are players that haven't played continuously this season. It will take time for the new players to gel.
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| There's honourable and there's Wakefield
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| Why couldn't Wakefield board support Ex Coach James Webster when he wanted to bring new players into the squad .If Wakey don't make SL next season this will in my opinion be the straw that broke the camels back and such a famous club has Wakefield will flow away into RL deadzone
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"If we hadn't made the signings we have we wouldn't even be able to field a 17 with the players that we have lost this season.
We have more or less replaced the players that we have lost.
Would you not want your team to do the same in those circumstances?'"
Has no one asked the question, 'Why have they let so many contracted players go to the point they cannot raise a side? Or maybe the real reason is your new coach felt he needed capable players to retain your 1.3 million quid, then you can go through the same next season. Transfer window should be half way through the season. On the Grix issue, I suspect he wasn't even fit to play on the 24/07 when he 'signed'. However Wire needed him to go somewhere so that they freed up enough of the Salary Cap and could bring in a half-back for the Super 8s.
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| I don't see a problem. Wakefield are keen to preserve their Super League status and are working within the rules to bring in a new coach and different players. I presume the RFL will review the system and make any changes they deem to be necessary for next year. Perhaps this could include equalising the salary cap. If Wakefield , or any other club, are in breach of the rules then a points deduction would be appropriate. It sounds like some fans of other clubs perceive an injustice has occurred and that it has worsened their own clubs position. Boo hoo.
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| They aren't breaking any rules although I expect the rules to be altered for next season to avoid this situation of clubs bringing in a new team for the 8's.
I wouldn't be happy seeing a team of strangers run out in Leigh shirts at this point in the season. I imagine half the Wakey fans wouldn't recognise Tupou or Sio if they passed them on the street. Will they really have the passion and commitment to the Wakefield cause?
To be honest Grix is the only one they have signed that is a big improvement on what they have and there are serious question marks around his fitness. Locke is also a great player but never seems to be fit.
I'm happy for us to go with what we have. It is OUR team and it has done us proud all season. Let Wakey sign as many as they like.
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| There's no taking the p##s as far as I can see ,Grix can't be fit and they can only play who they have, are Leigh so worried ?I think not ,just a couple of Fans probably looking for excuses before the 8's start,Leigh are a well settled side and I don't think Mr Rowley will be to bothered about Wakey.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Has no one asked the question, 'Why have they let so many contracted players go to the point they cannot raise a side? Or maybe the real reason is your new coach felt he needed capable players to retain your 1.3 million quid, then you can go through the same next season. Transfer window should be half way through the season. On the Grix issue, I suspect he wasn't even fit to play on the 24/07 when he 'signed'. However Wire needed him to go somewhere so that they freed up enough of the Salary Cap and could bring in a half-back for the Super 8s.'"
Well the majority of the players had already left or been confirmed as leaving when Brian Smith came in, so he didn't really have a choice in that to be fair - So yes he had some funds free to bring in some new players and he did.
A few players didn't want to be at Wakefield, and that was made public by our chairman after we lost to you in the challenge cup - Id much rather have a player here that wanted to play for our club and our going to give 100%.
At the end of the day, I don't really see it as an issue, but I can see from a Leigh fans point of view of been frustrated if we were to come good in the 8s. Leigh have strengthened and added a few throughout the season (Albeit they have been with you for a while) - You've got the benefit of a settled squad of players, and all of the players seem to want to give there all for your club (Which is something that I actually admire about Leigh & the job that Paul Rowley has done).
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| Lets not overlook the fact Wire have freed up some salary cap allowing them to bring in a half back for the super 8s.
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| Quote ="DETROITSOUL"Why couldn't Wakefield board support Ex Coach James Webster when he wanted to bring new players into the squad .If Wakey don't make SL next season this will in my opinion be the straw that broke the camels back and such a famous club has Wakefield will flow away into RL deadzone'"
Probably because without letting players go first they couldn't afford to.
Since Brian Smith has come on board, Paul McShane, Daniel Smith, Jarrod Sammut, Lopina Paea, Matty Ryan and Dean Collis have all left the club. Further to that, it appears Richard Owen season is over as he has checked into rehab, Kevin Locke appears to have picked up a season ending injury, Danny Kirmond has had surgery on his shoulder and probably wont be back and apparently Stuart Howarth is also out for the rest of the year. Brian Smith has therefore replaced those who have left with his own players and has been forced to bring in other loan signings to replace those who are injured and will miss most the 8's.
I don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist, all clubs could have brought players in if they wanted.
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| New coach comes in ships some players out, some have long term injuries so he ships some replacements in. Hardly unusual in Rugby League or some other sports.
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| Quote ="8ULL5HITT4"I don't see a problem. Wakefield are keen to preserve their Super League status and are working within the rules to bring in a new coach and different players. I presume the RFL will review the system and make any changes they deem to be necessary for next year. Perhaps this could include equalising the salary cap. If Wakefield , or any other club, are in breach of the rules then a points deduction would be appropriate. It sounds like some fans of other clubs perceive an injustice has occurred and that it has worsened their own clubs position. Boo hoo.'"
Glad to see you don't speak like yourself name
I'm with you on this one. Let them sink or swim and let's worry about our own. Yes they are desperate but have every right to be as most are.
Glad we're a team and a settled one at that. Reckon that's worth 8 to 10 points per game.
Can't wait for the action
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| No rules broken.........pointless thread. Haven't we got better things to talk about instead of Wakefield?
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| Agree that there's no rules broken and that our settled team should still be better but do think the rules need changing for next year. I hope Wakefield are relegated after this not for any petty reasons but because Super League XXI will be a much better competition with Leigh or Bradford. If Wakefield do manage to survive, half the team they brought in short term just to survive leave and they're back to square one, left with an even worse team than this year getting beaten every week again only at an even worse stadium, only interested in the last 7 games of the season. Yes the new system lets you game it that way but it's not in the spirit of it and not something a Super League team should be doing.
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| I suppose this would be a good time to point out that the Bulls signed four players for the middle eights .......A good day to release bad news !!
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| You signed Mickey Higham mid season. It was only end of May. The only difference is we needed more people and they weren't as good.
AND while we are at it, you only have yourselves to blame. If Oliver Wilkes hadn't scored that last try we'd still have Webster and we'd still have a team that a team of under 8s could bully?!?!
In all honesty, I don't think you need to worry about us too much. I think we'll do well but I have no doubt you will too.
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| Too late now but certainly needs the rules changing for next season with something like 'no signings allowed from 4 weeks before the last fixture before the splits' to stop clubs signing players just for the eights.
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| Why should there be controls imposed to prevent clubs trading players when they choose to do so, provided they stay within the appropriate rules and regulations. It would have been a waste of money to have brought in the 4 we signed before they were needed. The existing squad was good enough to reach 2nd in the league and the attendances were sufficiently good to provide the necessary income. Why pay more than was necessary for the first distinct part of the process.
Surely clubs are better able to judge when to spend.
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| Football have 'transfer deadlines' don't they ? Think next season 'deadline day' will be brought forward slightly, or a limit on players brought in...do some clubs not have talented academy/reserve players that deserve a chance.....obviously NOT !
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Football have 'transfer deadlines' don't they ? Think next season 'deadline day' will be brought forward slightly, or a limit on players brought in...do some clubs not have talented academy/reserve players that deserve a chance.....obviously NOT !
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Didn't Leigh bring in a few extra players during the season. Maybe they were brought in to enhance the squad at the risk of limiting opportunities for others.
Every club does it ..... even Leeds, Wigan and Saints who have a reputation for developing their own talent.
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| Most clubs have brought in a 'few' yes !
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| I don't think they should bring the transfer window forward.They should impose restrictions too teams currently in bottom 4 of SL at the point the window opens or put the top 4 of championship on the same salary cap.
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