I couldnt go the game last night but listened to Radio Manchester and Leigh Live. It sounded like Leigh were on the wrong side of lots of calls like last year against Les Cats, inc a disallowed try for bouncing the ball. Can anyone confirm? I was fecking fuming last night after the first disallowed try.

Hard to tell with it being at the other end but it was a quick decision which suggests it was reasonably clear cut, and it certainly wasn't a game changer like the Catalans incident.

I think the video will confirm that the ref got most of the calls, and all the major ones, right.

Hard to tell from where I was in the north stand. I was disapointed that Parkers try was chalked off and Thaler should have been followiing play not what was going on in back play. That should have been left to his helpers. That tells me he was looking for a way to not let us score. Bailey was interfering with the play the ball and Stu should not have got involved. Thaler is probably one of the worst refs in the game. But Im not that bothered about his performance just ours and I'm happy with that.

Cheers

I'll be interested to hear whether the first try chalked off was a good call

Was told he dropped the ball in the tackle.

The ref was on the spot so he saw it and gave the correct decision.

On balance I thought Thaler was pretty good last night and kept the game flowing.

All the officials had a good game last night, I would,nt mind that standard every week

When did touch judges stop looking for massively forward passes then, I am not referring to borderline forwards here

Yes indeed - Leeds 3rd try of the match looked a clear cut forward pass from my position in the North Stand. Obviously the ref and asssistant were in a far better positions but I was convinced that it was just a matter of time before the ref would pull them for it. I could not believe it was allowed to stand.

Thought Thaler let the game flow last night - as did Leahy at Sheffield - and surely that's what spectators want? (Granted a flowing game did us no favours last night!

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As for McNally's disallowed effort, the touch judges weren't happy with it either, so we have to assume the officials got it right.

And finally, on the topic of forward passes, he's not the only ref to let them go, but remember, Leeds had a late try disallowed for one and, if you check back on McNally's disallowed effort, I think there were two of them in the move that put him through.

I'm happy with the ref that let's the game flow and the players seem to prefer that too.

I suppose Moore passing the ball a good 2 seconds after Thaler had shouted held and not giving a penalty but getting Moore to play the ball good reffing. Also the Leeds player who clearly played at the ball - knocking on - inside his own ten and Thaler not giving as back to one good reffing. Both these happened yards from him. Blatant wrong decisions that could have cost us a try and gifted them field position from where they scored. Thaler is poor. Oh forgot about Jonny Pownall knocking the ball out in the tackle and not playing at it where he gave it as back to one where they scored.

It is correct reffing and I would dispute your 2 seconds.

There is a new rule were if they fail to hear " held " and pass the ball they are just told to play the ball, but we heard held, Moore didn't

I was at the back of the north stand and I heard it. If it had been a short time before he had passed it yes but Leigh were retreating ready to defend the play the ball. It should have been a Penalty to Leigh Reffy.

You are possibly correct but the rule was brought in because players were unfairly penalised when passing the ball at the same time that the ref called held. I think this way is better.

Everyone would like to see a free flowing game, but not to at the extreme of tries being allowed for blatant forward passes. Leeds scored at least 3 tries off forward passes.I would rather the game was played to the rules otherwise we might as well play American Football. And I do wish Sinfield would stop going to the ref for every decision, it's pathetic. 48 - 24 would have been a better reflection of the game.

Well I think that these rules and the flat pass rules are leading to inconsistencies in officiating and are doing nothing for our game. It makes it easier for an official who is prejudiced against a team or town to hide behind his or her decisions. It also helps the governing body to defend an official who makes bad decisions because the are too many ambiguities in there. Is this wrestling tripe just getting us ready for us joing the RU leagues because I personally hate it. When a player has stopped making forward progress and it is clear that that he is tackled then the tackle is complete. Some officials are waiting and waiting and waiting somemore to give the attacking team more time to get the ball out. It is open to abuse and a clear and strict rule is needed. It does no good to my blood preasure and voice box when I'm on the terrace.

A captain of a team needs to have the official explain his decisions for the reasons I have just posted. I would expect our captain to do exactly the same. I have watched KS at close quarters asking the ref questions and he does it in a very profesional manner. Don't forget he is hyper and in a very tough enviroment when he is on the field. Never ever seen him use bad language either. Wish we had him.

Awesome comment, the best I have read for a while. I suppose what you really mean is that every Ref & TJ l is biased against Leigh; I think paranoia just about covers it.

Well Reffy i really hope you don't make the first grade as you have totally misread my post and if you do that you obviously will do the same with the rule book. Where in any of my posts did I even intimate that I thought that any ref had a problem with Leigh. I merely said it could happen to any club or town.

I haven't misread your post at all, you are of the opinion that referees are biased against particular teams. It is a concept that I find laughable. I was just fine tuning your idea because surely Leigh fall into the category of "any club or town".

You are obviously not alone in your belief that refs give Leigh nowt but I have to admit that you are less vitriolic than some.

What an earth is a 'flat pass rule'?

It's a concept, that doesn't exist in the laws of the game, but which SKY TV, as the sport's paymasters, would have us believe does.....and, in SDL at any rate, has now become a self fullfilling prophecy!!

See also:

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Forward Pass. Its allowed in SL.

Leeds are masters of it. Sinfields first try was a mile forward. Problem was that the ref was right at the side of him !!! LOL!!!

The guys did us proud on Friday just a shame that the scoreline didn't more closely reflect the match we watched!!

A couple of the Leeds tries were definitely questionable from where I was stood in the North stand - clear forward pass. As for our disallowed try on half time couldn't call it myself from the North stand but the players reaction spoke volumes about what they thought and my sister got a txt straight away from a Leeds fan in the south stand who said it was a definite try.

Also can somebody shed some light on our second try that was disallowed - we were penalised for retaliation but my understanding from the people around me was the Bailey threw the first punch so the penalty should the penalty not gone our way? This is similar to an incident that went against us last season and resulted in the opposition getting 8 points!! as went against us last year !! the try stands, followed by conversion followed by the penalty goal!!

This would have resulted in a 26-48 scoreline which I feel is a truer reflection of the match and the performance the lads gave!!!

Well done to the team and the fans left the ground on a high thanx to all



PS hubby has just come up with a good question - why in football can a linesman spot a player offside from a 40 yard pass but in rugby a linesman can not spot a forward pass straight in front of him???? I do question why they are there - maybe I should take it up seems like easy money to me!!!