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| Can someone please explain to me why my thread has been removed? It was sanctioned by an official of the club, or I wouldn't have posted it.
It's on the club's official site.
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| I was thinking the same thing as I have posted it on other forums too.
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| Hi Alan
as my thread was also removed maybe you can answer some of my questions?
Firstly i think in principle the idea is a good one and i am glad the club moving forward with ideas such as this.
However why not target the leigh public our main supporter base?
How are we expected to get the leigh public to attend when they have to pay between £6 and £8 more than an away supporter plus if they want to bring there child it would cost them an extra £5 were as the away fans child gets in free?
Most fans who travel away are hardcore supporters and tend to be season ticket holders.
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Leigh family of 4 (2 adults + 2 children) pay on day supporters sit in west stand costs £48
Batley family 4 (2 adult batley season ticket holders + 2 children) pay on day sit in west stand £20
This just doesnt feel right Leigh family are expected to pay £28 more to watch their home team?
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Leigh fan + 1 child walk up supporter 9 championship home games sits in west stand pays £207
Warrington season ticket holder + child walk up on the day 9 championship home games sits in west stand £90
Thats £117 cheaper than the leigh fan is expected to pay!
Should we not be targeting the Leigh public with these great offers?
Im sorry if this appears negative but it just doesnt sit right with me that we are rewarding people for being ST holders of other clubs but punishing our walk up fans by charging them £2 more for buying on the day surley these are the people we need to be targeting?
Family of 4 tickets for £20 needs to be considered for all Leigh fans
£10 entry for all fans needs to be considered
If the above can be put in place i think its a brilliant idea!
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| I understand what you're saying Saley.
From one point of view it seems the Leigh public are getting ripped off, but if 50 non Leigh fans turn up then there's money in the bank that wouldn't have been there otherwise.
At least the club are trying something, and if it doesn't work, they can try something different. Hopefully the club has got plans for Leythers, preferably getting kids in the ground, which isn't really on option on a Thursday night.
I like the idea of a family ticket, great shout.
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| What about the Leigh ST holders if we do an offer for non ST holders??
We could pick holes all day and nothing would satisfy everybody. We have done enough freebies for locals that always get into the wrong hands, so target RL fans of other clubs who live locally - simples.
I do agree we need a regular dad n lad ticket offer (parent n child) at £16 North and £18 West when purchased before gameday.
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| How have the Feb fans reacted to their clubs offer. Is it along the lines of 'the club is ripping off it's own fans'. Or do they actually understand the clubs reasoning. They also have 3 times as many ST holders than us yet still only managed 1600 v Batley.
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| jonny it great things like this are happening at the club it shows were are moving forward.
however how many realistically are we going to get from other clubs? in this climate who can afford to watch 2 games of rugby in 1 week plus they would also have the cost of traveling to leigh plus food plus drink etc etc etc it soon adds up. In my opinion not very many but thats only my opinion i could be wrong i hope i am!!
In my opinion the main people this will benifit is the away supporters who have a season ticket, who would probably have come anyway and paid the £16 / £18 price (in this league only hardcore supporters tend to travel especially over the pennines). I personally think the 50 or so other club ST holders that do come will be negated by the 100 or so away fans paying £6 / £8 less than they would of normally
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50 season ticket holders (other clubs) coming that would not normally come - £500 in the coffers, Brilliant
100 away fans with season tickets normal price £1800, with offer £1000 - not so brilliant
that would leave us £300 worse of even with the 50 other club ST holders?
Has the above been considered?
We need to make great offers like this available to the Leigh public and most importantly get the yongsters in especially on family tickets with there parents.
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| Quote ="Saley2"Hi Alan
as my thread was also removed maybe you can answer some of my questions?
Firstly i think in principle the idea is a good one and i am glad the club moving forward with ideas such as this.
However why not target the leigh public our main supporter base?
How are we expected to get the leigh public to attend when they have to pay between £6 and £8 more than an away supporter plus if they want to bring there child it would cost them an extra £5 were as the away fans child gets in free?
Most fans who travel away are hardcore supporters and tend to be season ticket holders.
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Leigh family of 4 (2 adults + 2 children) pay on day supporters sit in west stand costs £48
Batley family 4 (2 adult batley season ticket holders + 2 children) pay on day sit in west stand £20
This just doesnt feel right Leigh family are expected to pay £28 more to watch their home team?
Another example :-
Leigh fan + 1 child walk up supporter 9 championship home games sits in west stand pays £207
Warrington season ticket holder + child walk up on the day 9 championship home games sits in west stand £90
Thats £117 cheaper than the leigh fan is expected to pay!
Should we not be targeting the Leigh public with these great offers?
Im sorry if this appears negative but it just doesnt sit right with me that we are rewarding people for being ST holders of other clubs but punishing our walk up fans by charging them £2 more for buying on the day surley these are the people we need to be targeting?
Family of 4 tickets for £20 needs to be considered for all Leigh fans
£10 entry for all fans needs to be considered
If the above can be put in place i think its a brilliant idea!'"
Interesting ideas there - I'd suggest putting them to the CEO/Directors. They make the decisions.
One of our (Leigh & Featherstone) hopes for this scheme is that all Championship clubs pick up on it, then (travelling) Leigh supporters will benefit. Of course, Leigh fans can always still buy a S/T - presumably discounted, as two games have gone - and benefit, should more clubs take up the idea.
Amlost 2,500 Saints/Wigan/Warrington/VT fans have now read this thread (thanks to Jonny) indicating at least an interest, and Wigan fans have said they will take up the offer.
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| Quote ="maurice"What about the Leigh ST holders if we do an offer for non ST holders??quote
I agree with you maurice, is that not what they are doing with this offer?
Does it not sit bad with you that as a loyal season ticket holder you are having to pay more per game than a season ticket holder of another club to watch a leigh match? even worse an away fan will get in cheaper than you?
The only benifit to you will be saving a £5 if/when you go to Fev away
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| The original thread is to be re-instated.
Saley2 - The ultimate aim (of us and Fev) is that s/t holders will get £5 off when visiting [uall[/u Championship clubs.
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| Quote ="Alan"The original thread is to be re-instated.
Saley2 - The ultimate aim (of us and Fev) is that s/t holders will get £5 off when visiting [uall[/u Championship clubs.'"
This will cost our club money IMO , I'll leave it there
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| Maybe for next season now (as not to disadvantage current ST holders but i would propose the following)
Family Season Ticket (2 adults + 2 Children) - £220
Lad and Dad Season Ticket - £110
Adult Season Ticket - £100
Consessions Season Ticket - £70
Child Season Ticket - £10
Adult Walk up supporter - £12 (any stand) + 1 free child (if required)
Consession - £7 (any stand)
Child - £2 (any stand)
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| Quote ="DemonUK"How have the Feb fans reacted to their clubs offer. Is it along the lines of 'the club is ripping off it's own fans'. Or do they actually understand the clubs reasoning.
Well said.
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| Alan
That again is a great idea and will benifit our loyal 300 or so fans who travel away and are ST holders. brilliant
However my points are being ignored
what about our walk up fans that are being asked to pay 40% more than ST holder fans of other clubs ?
what about our fans that are being asked to pay £5 for there child to watch leigh yet away fans and other clubs ST holders children will get in for free?
why do leigh walk up fans have to pay £2 more because they have not prepurchased a ticket yet an away / other club ST holder can do the exactlysame and get a £6 / £8 reduction on the cost?
Walk up fans (the majority of our supporters i will add) will not benifit from any other club offers as they dont have a ST.
We need to target the people of Leigh! and turn them into loyal supports this i feel will leave a bitter taste in the mouth and deter exactly the people we NEED to attract to survive!
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| Quote ="Saley2"Alan
That again is a great idea and will benifit our loyal 300 or so fans who travel away and are ST holders. brilliant
=#FF0000However my points are being ignored
what about our walk up fans that are being asked to pay 40% more than ST holder fans of other clubs ?
what about our fans that are being asked to pay £5 for there child to watch leigh yet away fans and other clubs ST holders children will get in for free?
why do leigh walk up fans have to pay £2 more because they have not prepurchased a ticket yet an away / other club ST holder can do the exactlysame and get a £6 / £8 reduction on the cost?
Walk up fans (the majority of our supporters i will add) will not benifit from any other club offers as they dont have a ST.
We need to target the people of Leigh! and turn them into loyal supports this i feel will leave a bitter taste in the mouth and deter exactly the people we NEED to attract to survive!'"
The points won't be ignored, if you ut them to the CEO/Board.
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| Quote ="Alan"=#FF0000The original thread is to be re-instated.'"
Wayne, Michael - please look at your p.m's.
Cheers,
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| I will speak to trevor Alan you know i have no problem with that haha
My point was my points are being ignored by people who are posting on this thread im trying to gauge opinion there is no right or wrong answer on this however i am raising my concerns re this idea and so far nobody has come up with anything that has addressed nor answered these
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| Quote ="Saley2"I will speak to trevor Alan you know i have no problem with that haha
My point was my points are being ignored by people who are posting on this thread im trying to gauge opinion there is no right or wrong answer on this however =#FF0000i am raising my concerns re this idea and so far nobody has come up with anything that has addressed nor answered these'"
Thats because you are correct
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| I have to agree with Saley, however the SL offer and maybe to Championship one fans too, but not to fans in our league, we are shooting ourselves in the foot.
We need to find way of getting more of the Leigh public through the turnstyle and Fetch Bob is not effective enough alone, why not have a match ticket book like Starbug suggested, where you can use it at any game and as many as you like ie you can use all ten if you convince 9 others in the pub to come along to the game. Make it £14 a ticket. A kids one at £40 for ten games
Fev are doing this simply to tick the boxes for their SL application, like Halifax they are playing the game now and like Halifax before them they are wasting their time, Toulouse or another similar club will be included next time, not Fax, Fev or us.
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| I know several fans who haven't renewed their season tickets this season for differing reasons ,one of which was the glut of thursday and friday games instead of Sunday, preferring instead to see what shift they were on on match day, now it appears the trick is to know someone who has a Wigan.Wire,Widnes, Saints, Salford or swinton season ticket and borrow theirs and then get themselves and their sprog in for a tenner, how very unfair ,there is enough cheating going on at the sports village as it is without us encouraging more of the same .every season it's the same old story we all rush to buy our season tickets early and then we find that the season hasn't even started properly and out come the freebies, I give up
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| Quote ="peawapp"I know several fans who haven't renewed their season tickets this season for differing reasons ,one of which was the glut of thursday and friday games instead of Sunday, preferring instead to see what shift they were on on match day, now it appears the trick is to know someone who has a Wigan.Wire,Widnes, Saints, Salford or swinton season ticket and borrow theirs and then get themselves and their sprog in for a tenner, how very unfair ,there is enough cheating going on at the sports village as it is without us encouraging more of the same .every season it's the same old story we all rush to buy our season tickets early and then we find that the season hasn't even started properly and out come the freebies, I give up
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I never thought I'd post this
But I agree with Peawap
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| Quote ="Alan"Wayne, Michael - please look at your p.m's.
Cheers,
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Could you not just post it again.
Its not our fault you posted it too early
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| Quote ="Saley2"I will speak to trevor Alan you know i have no problem with that haha
My point was my points are being ignored by people who are posting on this thread im trying to gauge opinion there is no right or wrong answer on this however i am raising my concerns re this idea and so far nobody has come up with anything that has addressed nor answered these'"
I think people understand that the issue of getting bums on seats is not an easy problem to solve. I reckon most Leythers appreciate that at least the club are trying something, whether or not they agree or disagree with the process the club are using.
Like yuo Saley, I have my own ideas and will be getting in touch with Trevor with them, but if the club want to try and get people throught the gates this way, whether or not I agree or disagree, I will back it and that's why I posted on all the fans boards and tweeted about this offer.
The ONLY way it can work, is if the fans trust and support the club in it. If it fails, we try something else.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones" We need to find way of getting more of the Leigh public through the turnstyle and Fetch Bob is not effective enough alone, why not have a match ticket book like Starbug suggested. '"
My idea that i'll be sending to Trevor is very similar to having a match ticket book...
I'd do a 'half season ticket', it would have half the amount of tickets that we have games. Then fans can pick and choose which games to attend.
I reckon a lot of fans would buy one. It's better for parents, shift workers and fans who can't afford a full season ticket and fans who can't tell which games they can and can't get to even when the fixtures are announced.
I think it's probably too late to do this season though. It should be done when the normal ST's are released, and with a proper discount applied, but not as big a discount as a full ST.
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| Its a great offer Jonny there is no doubting that my problem is that its aimed at the wrong people.
ST holders of other clubs will only watch us as a one off if that in my opinion of course. They are season ticket holders of their clubs because they are loyal fans they are not and will never be Leigh fans end of.
We need to attract the people of Leigh, give them value for money (i dont think we do) and a product worth paying for (which i think we have)
The only people that will benifit from this offer in any numbers will be away fans coming to Leigh who have ST's for their club.
As previously stated in my opinion the majority of these people would of traveled anyway and paid the £18 to get in. So we will lose out massivly. again i hope i am wrong and its my opinion only im not stating facts just assumptions.
Just because Fev have done this does not make it a good idea, I hope it has been thought through and does not disgruntle exactly the people we need to target the most.
I hope we get 5,000 on thursday and this idea is a great success however i do fear the worst somebody please put my mind at rest that this they way forward for our club because nobody has come up with any thing on here yet which concerns me greatly!!!
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