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| read a few topics and note that a few are saying that money is needed desperately - then why aren't we selling ST's for next season?
Get them on sale - North Stand for £99.99 if you pay by end of Oct and get the money in - will also help budget for next year
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| Id buy mine tomorrow !
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| Me too.
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| £ 280.00 , write your cheques out now
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| I would, if Wire win the GF and a big old payout comes my way!
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I would, if Wire win the GF and a big old payout comes my way!'"
Keeerrrrrrchiiiiing! ! Where does £280 figure come from starbug?!!!
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| Quote ="wurzel leyther"Keeerrrrrrchiiiiing! ! Where does £280 figure come from starbug?!!!'"
That is the actual cost of a ST , or the cost of individual tickets for a seasons games for Leigh at the LSV with the club spending at current salary cap levels
Ie the money each fan ( along with AT contribution ) that it costs the club to operate on gates of around 2,000/2,200
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| The problem will then be the same as this season.
In Trevor Bartons own words at the last fans forum, although the season tickets are bought upfront, the season ticket money should be drip fed into the expenditure budget on a monthly basis. Unfortunately, it's completely spent early on in the season, and you then start accrueing debt straight away.
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| Quote ="Last Chance Saloon"The problem will then be the same as this season.
In Trevor Bartons own words at the last fans forum, although the season tickets are bought upfront, the season ticket money should be drip fed into the expenditure budget on a monthly basis. Unfortunately, it's completely spent early on in the season, and you then start accrueing debt straight away.'"
Yes , but if you drip feed it , you accrue debt even earlier , more money is the only answer
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| Quote ="Starbug"That is the actual cost of a ST , or the cost of individual tickets for a seasons games for Leigh at the LSV with the club spending at current salary cap levels
Ie the money each fan ( along with AT contribution ) that it costs the club to operate on gates of around 2,000/2,200'"
So you're having a pop at people who are willing to front ST money up now, because of that baked spud on your shoulder?
Most of the time I think people read what cynical garbage you write and think 'you know what, I won't bother' i know I do.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes , but if you drip feed it , you accrue debt even earlier , more money is the only answer'"
Only if you are speding more than you can afford.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"So you're having a pop at people who are willing to front ST money up now, because of that baked spud on your shoulder?
Most of the time I think people read what cynical garbage you write and think 'you know what, I won't bother' i know I do.'"
Jonny , I'm not ' popping ' at anybody , I don't ' pop '
' Cynical ' , no , realistic , yes
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| Then why don't you explain to people what you mean, rather than just make dismissive comments like '£ 280.00 , write your cheques out now'?
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| I've asked this question and can give you the answer.
If they sold a ST at £99 they would be bust in no time or playing the U'18s every week.
£99 after VAT is £80 (thereabouts). After paying LSV for the use of that £20m stadium, that leaves about £65.
On 14 games, that means the club gets just over £4.50 per game of our hardearned.
Its just not enough.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Then why don't you explain to people what you mean, rather than just make dismissive comments like '£ 280.00 , write your cheques out now'?'"
Because I have discovered that if you actually post bad news ( reality ) and lay it all out , nobody replies and the thread dies a quick death , this has happened many times , especially on the VT
If you post just a bit , you get people asking you to explain , therefore more people see it , and more thought is given to it
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| My season ticket last season was £60.
I have mentioned before it is far too cheap for concessions at Leigh.
It was £12 a game for people at my age when I watched us at Fax for example.
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| Quote ="frankb"My season ticket last season was £60.
I have mentioned before it is far too cheap for concessions at Leigh.
It was £12 a game for people at my age when I watched us at Fax for example.'"
Miles to cheap?.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Because I have discovered that if you actually post bad news ( reality ) and lay it all out , nobody replies and the thread dies a quick death , this has happened many times , especially on the VT
If you post just a bit , you get people asking you to explain , therefore more people see it , and more thought is given to it'"
So what you're saying is you lie and hold back information and waste peoples time, so they talk to you?
I notice that when a thread starts that's rubbish and Fred politely comes in and explains the situation people normally react with 'fair enough' or 'I stand corrected' etc.
If you have more information, that's not negative nonsense, why not just say it rather than making people ask you for it and making yourself look stupid?
We're all on the same side you know that? It's not Starbug and his Jacket Spud v Everyone else.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"So what you're saying is you lie and hold back information and waste peoples time, so they talk to you?
I notice that when a thread starts that's rubbish and Fred politely comes in and explains the situation people normally react with 'fair enough' or 'I stand corrected' etc.
If you have more information, that's not negative nonsense, why not just say it rather than making people ask you for it and making yourself look stupid?
We're all on the same side you know that? It's not Starbug and his Jacket Spud v Everyone else.'"
You asked
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| I've got my answer.
Attention.
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| What we need to do is offer incentives, we should have records of season ticket holders so send them letters for renewal and a separate application form for a recommended fan! Then the fan signing up a newbie gets £10 off.
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| I like the idea of paying x amount all year round, seems like a way to keep constant income to the club.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I like the idea of paying x amount all year round, seems like a way to keep constant income to the club.'"
at the moment the widnes model appears to be the future.
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| Quote ="j.c"at the moment the widnes model appears to be the future.'"
What if the club did that and issued shares to the 'fans organisation' in return so it had a voice and transparency?
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| Quote ="j.c"at the moment the widnes model appears to be the future.'"
Agreed, it seems a good, common sense idea. We just need to find someone to put it in place, after the 200k debt is gone.
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