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| Discuss.
but only assuming the club goes pop first
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| i was wondering how long it would be before cropped up again
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| Let the Directors do their job ,with LISA the club and supportors have their group ,we dont need any more .
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| so can you explain again how a supporters trust differs from LISA?
for instance who'd be in charge?
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| That would only be viable if the club went under.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Let the Directors do their job ,with LISA the club and supportors have their group ,we dont need any more .'"
OMG please please dont let them do any more work!!!!! we are already up s**t creek.........
Leigh Directors and job dont go in the same sentance and i would have been sacked by now in my job if i was producing the same results!!!!!
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| Quote ="thudder"OMG please please dont let them do any more work!!!!! we are already up s**t creek.........
Leigh Directors and job dont go in the same sentance and i would have been sacked by now in my job if i was producing the same results!!!!!'"
Just answer me this how many of them do you think actually has a say now in anything, other than the Chairman.
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| there are even less directors as I do believe Mr Coleman has gone?
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| Quote ="FredParky"there are even less directors as I do believe Mr Coleman has gone?'"
So who are board then????
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| Its in the programme and on the official site.
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| Quote ="trainee_lobbygobbler"So who are board then????'"
Superleigh
Entertainment
L.I.S.A.
Service Area
Club Directors & Staff
Hon Life President: Mr Tommy Sale
Hon Life Member: Mr Brian Bowman
Chairman: Mr Arthur Thomas
Directors: Mr Brian Beswick,
Mr Phil Coffey,
Mr Tommy Coleman,
Mr Keith Freer,
Mr Stephen Grainey,
Mr Darren Thomas
Director Of Rugby: Mr Neil Kelly
Company Secretary: Mr John Massey
Chief Executive: Mr Allan Rowley
Commercial Manager: Mr David Bradshaw
Finance Manager: Ms Jane Smith
Club Ambassador: Mr Alex Murphy OBE
Head Coach: Mr Paul Rowley
Assistant Coach: Mr Simon Knox
Reserve Team Coach: Mr Neil Dukes
Player Performance Manager: Mr Gary Eccleston
Community Development Manager: Miss Hannah Forbes
Community Development Officer: Ms Heather Parker
Community Development Officer: Mr Ryan Baxter
Community Development Officer: Mr Shane Eccles
Lottery Manager: Mrs Annette Unsworth
Lottery Assistant Manager: Mrs Christine Brown
Lottery Co-ordinator: Mr Jonathan Simpkin
Webmaster & Ticket Sales: Mr Andrew Parkinson
Club Accountants: Styles & Co
From the Offical Site:-
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| your too kind with them Linda
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Superleigh
Entertainment
L.I.S.A.
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Hon Life President: Mr Tommy Sale
Hon Life Member: Mr Brian Bowman
Chairman: Mr Arthur Thomas
Directors: Mr Brian Beswick,
Mr Phil Coffey,
Mr Tommy Coleman,
Mr Keith Freer,
Mr Stephen Grainey,
Mr Darren Thomas
Director Of Rugby: Mr Neil Kelly
Company Secretary: Mr John Massey
Chief Executive: Mr Allan Rowley
Commercial Manager: Mr David Bradshaw
Finance Manager: Ms Jane Smith
Club Ambassador: Mr Alex Murphy OBE
Head Coach: Mr Paul Rowley
Assistant Coach: Mr Simon Knox
Reserve Team Coach: Mr Neil Dukes
Player Performance Manager: Mr Gary Eccleston
Community Development Manager: Miss Hannah Forbes
Community Development Officer: Ms Heather Parker
Community Development Officer: Mr Ryan Baxter
Community Development Officer: Mr Shane Eccles
Lottery Manager: Mrs Annette Unsworth
Lottery Assistant Manager: Mrs Christine Brown
Lottery Co-ordinator: Mr Jonathan Simpkin
Webmaster & Ticket Sales: Mr Andrew Parkinson
Club Accountants: Styles & Co
From the Offical Site:-'"
Thought Tony Beevers joined your board a few weeks back? If he has pulled out it does not surprise me ,lives on promises oh and hospitality .
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"That would only be viable if the club went under.'"
I don`t think that is so really ,certainly not at Halifax where the directors and the committee of the Trust work together. At your club it is differant as you already have a very capable and thriving supporters club.When we formed our Trust we did not.
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| We have the relevant in LISA now, we had all the meeting etc about a trust and the fans voted a BIG no.The only way I could see them having a trust is if the Club went under, a trust could possibly create enough interest then maybe.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"We have the relevant in LISA now, we had all the meeting etc about a trust and the fans voted a BIG no.The only way I could see them having a trust is if the Club went under, a trust could possibly create enough interest then maybe.'"
I think that is what I said.
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"I think that is what I said.'"
Yes
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| Quote ="maurice"Discuss.
but only assuming the club goes pop first'"
Does not need discussing.........the £1Klub are waiting in the wings with a thousand members already committed.
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| Quote ="FredParky"Its obviously not up to date
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It's up to date enough to have Neil Jukes on it (that was more recent than Beevers wasn't it?)
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| But if the webmaster hasnt updated that bit,it doesn't do it by itself you know, he has to be told to do it, and maybe he hasn't, ask him.
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| Lets not kid ourselves. The fans did not vote against a trust - Lisa members did but not 100%.
Given that Lisa has little over 100 members, many of whom are rarely seen at meetings its a pity Trevor Barton gave up on the idea simply because Lisa members voted no. He should have taken it to the fans and town!
Lisa seems to go nowhere, no direction little drive and declining membership. Can someone say what the membership was 2 years ago and what it is now. We can then see how strong (or weak) LISA is. Can they also say what steps have recently been taken to attract new members and what succes there has been.
I am a LISA member by the way but rarely go - I normally have to wash my hair!. If there was a structured meeting I might take more interest as it is I cannot even be bothered cancelling my membership - so much appathy and so little interest.
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| Unfortunately the way it was put to LISA members was that they were asked to vote on whether LISA should BECOME a supporters trust (which IIRC was discussed as a possible kind of relaunch to aid a recruitment drive for new members), and the vote was no. However the aim of the group of fans who met to look into the workings of a trust was never to take over or compete with LISA (although some LISA members seemed to think it was), and indeed as a LISA member my own preference would have been for a trust to coexist alongside LISA, working with each other but not treading on each others toes, and I would happily have been a member of both. But that wasn't an option that was voted on, so hey ho.
A trust would take whatever direction its members vote for it, so if LISA had voted in favour they would have been the founding members of the trust and the direction of the trust would almost certainly have been steered by LISA. But that didn't happen and we all move on.
It's worth noting though that LISA's vote does not express anybody's opinions (not even LISA members like myself) about the future existance of a trust, it voted on it's own future, ie that IT did not want to BECOME a trust at that particular time.
In practice, however, a trust cannot exist without members, and fans are unlikely to get together to launch a new body without some sort of aim or goal they feel will be achieved. The framework of a trust is there to be used, and there are many fans like myself who think it offers a lot of positives in the way it is organised, so I am hopeful that a trust will still happen one day. However, it will need a goal to drive the initial recruitment of its members, and that will most likely be the next perceived crisis or the next major funding requirement that is not covered by LISA but is deemed to need action from a group of supporters. It could be something like achieving a voice to give fans a say in some aspect of the running of the club, it could be as a fans forum to offer a sounding board or gather fans opinions for the club about new ideas and schemes, it could be to identify possibilities for the gym facility they mentioned they are lacking at the last LISA meeting, it could be for anything. But that will be decided by vote, ie the feeling of its members when it is launched.
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| Quote ="jpleigh"Lets not kid ourselves. The fans did not vote against a trust - Lisa members did but not 100%.
Given that Lisa has little over 100 members, many of whom are rarely seen at meetings its a pity Trevor Barton gave up on the idea simply because Lisa members voted no. He should have taken it to the fans and town!
Lisa seems to go nowhere, no direction little drive and declining membership. Can someone say what the membership was 2 years ago and what it is now. We can then see how strong (or weak) LISA is. Can they also say what steps have recently been taken to attract new members and what succes there has been.
I am a LISA member by the way but rarely go - I normally have to wash my hair!. If there was a structured meeting I might take more interest as it is I cannot even be bothered cancelling my membership - so much appathy and so little interest.'"
Trevor Barton wanted to lead the trust but have other people doing the work , he knew that without changing LISA to a trust it would have meant a lot of hard work to set up , he wasn't willing to do this
If he wanted to go to the fans he should have done so , nobody was stopping him and nobody is still stopping him
As you state , you are a LISA member but rarely attend which demonstrates the apathy you describe
And yes it is doubtful if the LISA organisation will ever grow to the numbers it once had , but it still contributes and will continue to do so until it no longer has any members
If anybody wants to set up a ' trust ' they are welcome to do so , if they can only do it by ' piggy backing ' on an existing organisation that would tell me there is not the interest for it to make any sort of difference anyway
Whenever there is a sign of weakness there are always people who will see an opportunity , it is like in the jungle , there are always Vultures and Hyena's looking out for a cheap meal
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