Which just goes to show that sacking a coach part way through a season is never a good thing (Kelly to Rowley) as in the modern game with salary caps, players contract etc.. the team the new guy inherits is never his own.
Anyway all water under the bridge a new regime is now in charge so either support them or dont but dont dredge up the past just to try and score a few dirty little points on people who mostly were not in charge then, it is childish and non productive in the extreme.

If they still refuse to listen you appreciate their point of view and ask them what resolution they would like to see. Negotiate a resolution that both parties are happy with and move on. Arrange a meeting after the dust has settled usually in an environment that the customer is comfortable with, ie the golf club, their favourite restaurant , the boardroom at the LSV, whatever floats their boat and re-build the customer/supplier relationships. This tends to make the relationship between customer and supplier stronger. In my experience true long term friendships tend to develop which benefit your business. I have seen this happen first hand, this complete customer focus i have see first hand. i know this has contributed to a business growing from a turnover of £9.5million in 1997 to £32million in 2012.

No problem with any of that. Ideally, I would see the 'personal touch' being essential, if you have the manpower to achieve that. I'm pretty sure that's Rob Parker's approach to wooing new/old customers to sponsorship.

The problem could come when the 'customer' insists you do something that isn't readily achievable, to satisfy them.

If the only way is their way or no way, that is not a resolution. Giving in to the minority who refuse to accept facts and prefer to twist truths does not advance a business. Sometimes people have to be left behind (in the 70's it seems).

Sorry folks but where on this thread has Wiziwig had a dig at anyone or anything? Let it go.

There, I've edited my earlier post, to remove the reference. My point is still very valid though.

Simple really.

CW says Allan alienated sponsors = not true

CW says Allan is disliked at the RFL = not true

It must be true Ste it's a fact or is that nearly a fact

Fact.

As I remember it, the customer was rude and quite ignorant in his complaint, and a large majority of the room made their opinions of his behavior known, so he invited the response he got from Alan

I had customers from St Helens in the room that night and the following morning they expressed their surprise at his comments and their support for Alans response

He asked for what he got, if anything it was he who should have been appologising

I rest my case mi'lord

Fact


(like Whitehaven being Workington in another post

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Well said Steve



Allan Rowley is a great Match Host , wears his heart on his sleeve always has done , I would like to see more of him speaking in the Sponsers Lounge .

they dont deserve speaking to ' nicely ' , and in fact the RFL should be above having to ' like ' any club or its owners more than any other , their job is to run the sport equally for all irrispective of any personal likes or dislikes

If they are unable to do that they shouldn't be in the job

What? You mean this post?
SRW1996 wrote:
Please tell me your joking right?

When have we ever scored 60-80 points against a competitive Whitehaven. Cumbrian sides are tough and play with pride and never lay down to anyone.

Joking? 31st January 2001. Neil Turley 6 tries leigh 70 v 0 Workington. (Might not be haven but cut from the same cloth!) Although the record equaling 6th try was a bit of a farce as the Captain of the time ( a wiganer) was very generous in gifting Turley his final try under the sticks at the Chadwick end as I recall.we've done it before against Cumbrian teams why not now? Haven are made up of DR players and journey men not like the team of 2005. Come on Andy have faith in Leigh!
I've highlighted the "facts" of the post in question.





Facts and assumption are two very different things, I know which I prefer, and always try and deal in.

I now completely lost with this thread.

However, Steve, the club now has to work with the RFL. (along with all the other clubs) I'm not disputing what has happened in the past, (regular material for a 'Flat Cap' programme article!) but I think you'll find that this BOD/BOM is determined to make themselves known to the RFL and show them how professionally the club will be run.

Use of emoticons are really childish and just show the people on here how pedantic you are. Nowhere in that post did I refer to you posting it just indicating what one of your 'facts' could be, but again why let something true get in the way of a failed put down

Now I dare you to go on Workington Market square and say that they are 'cut from the same cloth' as Whitehaveners One would hope you had a fast car to make a getaway

Now back on track so to speak.

Unfortunately Andy people do have long and selective memories especially when they do seem to carry a grudge (for perpetuity it would seem) against one or two people -Mick Higgins nearly ran over our cat you know

- and drag them up at every opportunity they can and the stories seem to get embellished every time they trudge them out.

What the he'll does what happened in the past have to do with supporting the team of today !

The events of the past are the reasons most fans are supporting the club, don't sanitise the forum and allow only good history to be discussed.
If you have nothing to compare the current BOD with then they are not an improvement are they?

Nobody is trying to sanitise anything just trying to keep focus on what matters and maintain a positive vibe as we continue to move the club forward.

Surely the past is just that, the past. Its passed, its gone. The future is what matter. The task is getting as many people on this journey into the future. Only so much time can be spent on people who use the past as an excuse to stay away. They are either with us or against us. No red carpets no special treatment for them. We should be using the new found energies on making the 'new club' a success both on and off the field.

Absolutely.

Why even try and compare what has gone to what is happening today? As this thread has shown people have selective memories about certain past administrations. I enjoy reminiscing with the 'older end' of our Speccy base re past players and games - some good times but mostly bad lets face it. As managements go though looking at the now and the future is the only way to go forward, history is just that and it pays no bills - unless of course you teach/lecture in it

- enjoy the journey hopefully most will be good but we are Leythers we can take the rough with the smooth.