But all Rowleys coaching has come in the lower leagues with budgets that where far and away more than the other teams in the division and as soon as it was levelled in the middle 8s he failed miserably

Well we will find out if you are right this year now won't we? I'm picking them to go up, just like last year. I could be wrong but time will tell.

Sweet mother of God, all your credibility has gone with the highlighted line.

Is it not true that he once saved a young girls life from a waterfall/drowning incident and risked his own life to do that? Is that true or not true?

It is true and was indeed very brave. I'm not sure what it had to do with his integrity or coaching ability though. In fact, the longer this thread goes on, the more confused I become, over what it is all about, anyway!

Its about a big thing, an important thing. I've read all of the threads and people seem to be calling his character into question, both on and off the field. many insults, both personal and professional, have been directed his way.

Some might not like him but his actions on that day, saving the young girl, gives us a direct snapshot and insight into his character....I think he is a standup type guy; I think he is being unfairly demonized.

Toronto is a new beginning for him and his family and he has met the challenge. I think its time for all the Leigh fans to let the Rowley era, both on and off the field, go. Do it not for him but rather yourselves; do it for your Club!

Cut the guy a break will ya!

A deaf and blind dog could have picked them to go up last year this year will be a lot harder but as I've said before if you go up you deserve to the chances are I'll be getting to see you v my club in the middle 8s

Whatever as gone on or off the field the Wolfpack have been the better side over the two games we have played them. Let’s just get on with the upcoming games and let’s not dwell on it bring on Leeds tomorrow night I’m really looking forward to it

Of all the posts and you haven't replied to mine Sir. I will bump it up again to give you another read, Mr Canoe

It's 2 nil to Toronto.

Leigh just need to concentrate on finishing 4th.

We will beat them in the M8 as will at least 4 other sides!

I would take a challenge cup final over top 4 at this moment in Time as I honestly see us losing again and missing out we have the best team in the division in my opinion but the bad start to the season is what as finished us off. Can’t afford lose to every team that got promoted from the lower division and expect top four

If we're good enough to get to the CC final,we should be good enough for a top 4.

Well as good as a challenge cup final would be, top 4 to me seems essential as the goal must be SL - if not this season then we need to keep the core of the season for next, it is now showing what it's capable of, not making top 4 would kill us financially

I reckon we may get away with 2 more losses and squeeze in, but capable of winning all champ games from here in

It’s a very strong Leeds squad on paper, how strong that is on the park we’ll find out. The CC could be this squads destiny..

Peter,
You have a point in all of this, despite yourself.
I’m going to go to Toronto to take in the game. Should I get the chance I will shake the hand of all ex Leythers, PR included. Ya know why.
Because it’s water under the bridge, and perpetuating the perceived issues serves nobody. Sport is sport, not life an death. Life is too short. I support Leigh, my dad supported Leigh. Many others do the same for Leigh or their chosen team.
BUT
Bottom line I support my team and respect anyone who supports their team.........
Who do you support ?
If it’s Leigh then quit creating threads designed to disrupt and if you have concerns post constructively.

Sorry double post

I do support leigh . But I find the way some fans act cringe worthy . The frenzy they build up isnt right . The question ive asked is to the point rather than go the scenic route. Look at some of the reactions after the game , these lads know each other and I bet all are feeling quite let down by themselves . the hate campaign needs to stop . Good on you for wanting to shake the lads hands after the game its how it should be

Peter, you are entitled to your opinion but don’t expect others to support it. People can paint a pretty picture of Rowley all they want to.

The fact still remains Rowley left the club high and dry 2 weeks before the start of the season.

Many have moved on, but that fact will always remain with many.

Personally, I'm not keen on PR the person. However, I'll freely admit that he coached us off the park in the first game this season. Last week was much more even, against KP. So far, he has been proved to be a pretty astute and successful coach. His one big blip was the Middle 8's, where he/the team failed spectacularly! We are about to find out whether he learned from that experience. If Toronto do make it to SL, surely he deserves his chance at the top level?

As for the players who jumped ship, I'll never be convinced that he acted within the laws of the game, on all of them. (neither did the players, probably, for that matter) However, we have only ever heard one side of the story about these players - (especially Ryan Brierley, who initially departed for SL.) I would humbly suggest that, as is the case with all disputes, there are two sides to all those stories.

I really don't want Toronto to succeed. It's nothing to do with the city, the coach, or the players - it's just that I don't think the venture will succeed, whether it be Toronto, New York, or Beijing. I honestly think it could be harmful to the game over here.

As for the 'traitors', I would happily accept some of them back in our team, any day.

A leigh supporter will follow them through good and bad win or lose I’ve had 40. Years of ups and downs but still my team . Overseas teams are not good for uk league weather it Toronto , Catalan or Toulouse

Just because you believe your own opinion does not make it factual.

Neither does yours.

If you can gain respect in this sport you’ll stand a chance.
Your just on the wrong board for preaching that.

Don't follow...the progress of Toronto is real and has already met many benchmarks. It appears some people will never welcome the new team(s) , much as they view the French teams as outsiders. This is the old way of thinking, not the new way. That is why the sport needs a new injection of innovation, and TWP supplies just that.
Watch the Broncos game this coming Saturday, watch the crowd. Your perceptions should not be tainted by the team you support or what board you are on (SO PETTY)....this is the amazing growth of Rugby league right before your eyes...I'll bet the bank on it one week ahead of time and eat my words if they are wrong:

Big crowd next Saturday in Toronto.

"AND THE RUGBY GODS SAID IT WAS GOOD!"

It would be nice to see a Canadian team. That seems to be currently light years away. Your on the Leigh forum why,I don’t know. You are welcome here, but please try and contain your excitement.

Do they charge for entrance to the beer tents or is that in with the free ticket?