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| Quote ="Iggy79"Maurice, however you try to dress it up, the way Leigh have handled certain issues isn't the way most other professional sports clubs would have handled them.
Why some folk on here feel the need to get defensive about the slightest issue is beyond me'"
Not being defensive, I think it's hilarious what some fans expect to be told about internal matters and that's from a fan perspective. We have fans who seem to believe everything should be 100% honest 100% of the time, would they then say thank you and not comment positive or negative any further, do they hell.
These fans need to get into a real world situation and do some growing up, what happens inside any business stays within that business until such a time as its mutually right for it not to be.
It's called need to know, and let's be honest we don't need to know. Well done club only tell us what we need to know, and focus on the positives
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| Quote ="maurice"When a senior employee is asked to leave a job and an agreement is reached the email that goes out does not say " the company thinks bobs a useless winker and we offered him leave or be sacked so he left". It's nobody's business and protects both parties, how it should be. There will be people who know Bob and rumours will no doubt go around but the company will never comment any further.
In this instance Jakes gone so can't be selected, doesn't matter why unless it's to appease some tap room stirrers'"
You do realize this will be translated to mean Bob Beswick
Why do we have to know everything that goes on at the club, some things are best kept in house and even when statements are made people will not believe it and make up something else.
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| Don't need to know everything, just don't need to be lied to.
Why not just say Rangi's ill, ask people to respect his privacy and leave it at that. With Penky, say he's not available for selection, or do what liverpool fc did recently and say he's suspended pending UKAD tests. Can say he has full support of the club. Let's face it, nothing the club has said about these two players has done anything to protect them from wild speculation as to what they may have done has it?
Fact is, the club has shouted injury to explain someone's absence, only for something more substantial to become apparent later on two or three occaisions. All it does is add suspicion to other injured players. How does that protect player welfare?!
The club have done the majority of things excellently, this just something they could improve on, we're all only human after all, but people seem to be in denial about it.
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| Quote ="maurice"Not being defensive, I think it's hilarious what some fans expect to be told about internal matters and that's from a fan perspective. We have fans who seem to believe everything should be 100% honest 100% of the time, would they then say thank you and not comment positive or negative any further, do they hell.
These fans need to get into a real world situation and do some growing up, what happens inside any business stays within that business until such a time as its mutually right for it not to be.
It's called need to know, and let's be honest we don't need to know. Well done club only tell us what we need to know, and focus on the positives'"
In these instances, no comment from the club is better than some bs one.
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| The problem is poor communication.The "need to know" needs to be improved when being conveyed.Poor communication doesn't effect the clubs interest or player welfare.It effects the image of the Club.
I don't know what Leigh have on board as in Public Relations, reading the posts and IMO it would suggest we are missing some form of PR intervention which would cure poor communication.
Anyhow onwards and upwards..
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Don't need to know everything, just don't need to be lied to.
Why not just say Rangi's ill, ask people to respect his privacy and leave it at that. With Penky, say he's not available for selection, or do what liverpool fc did recently and say he's suspended pending UKAD tests. Can say he has full support of the club. Let's face it, nothing the club has said about these two players has done anything to protect them from wild speculation as to what they may have done has it?
Fact is, the club has shouted injury to explain someone's absence, only for something more substantial to become apparent later on two or three occaisions. All it does is add suspicion to other injured players. How does that protect player welfare?!
The club have done the majority of things excellently, this just something they could improve on, we're all only human after all, but people seem to be in denial about it.'"
and what do you do if said players asked if the problems could be diverted whilst they dealt with the personal issues surrounding them ?
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| Quote ="maurice"and what do you do if said players asked if the problems could be diverted whilst they dealt with the personal issues surrounding them ?'"
You say they're unavailable - you don't make up an injury that has clearly been made up!
Time to agree to disagree and move on
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| Quote ="Iggy79"You say they're unavailable - you don't make up an injury that has clearly been made up!
Time to agree to disagree and move on'"
but then you hit the same circle.
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| Quote ="maurice"but then you hit the same circle.'"
Mo , worrying makes you bald chill out Emmitt has gone,another win on Sunday,have a bet at Royal Ascot,happy days.Charlie knows.Global Applause in the first race at Royal Ascot.
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| Charlie read before you post it helps
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| Quote ="maurice"but then you hit the same circle.'"
You're right. You were right all along. Don't know how I could be so daft etc etc etc
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| Quote ="Iggy79"You're right. You were right all along. Don't know how I could be so daft etc etc etc'"
Thank you, but don't beat yourself up too much life is all about learning ......
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| Well I'm just going to keep right on disagreeing.
Call me old fashioned but I just can't see any justification for lying.
Especially when there are perfectly acceptable alternatives.
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| Quote ="Iggy79"Penky when he was going through a legal process I understand. Rangi when he was in rehab - absolutely. But to print Emmitt's release in the player stats before even releasing a statement - weeks after he'd left - is poor whichever way you dress it up. How was that looking after the players welfare or the clubs interests?'"
Why are you and others so hung up about Jake and all the other issues you are talking about. All of them one way or another are very sensitive subjects to all involved and need to follow various processes before anything can be released. The fact rumours come out is because there are up to 35 players/staff directly involved on most occasions all of which think they can trust people and before you know it the rumours are in the hair dressers, dentists, pubs and play grounds not to mention on here.
The programme was simply a miss print on Jake and the official press release came out the day he left. He did not leave several weeks ago, there is a process to follow on all agreements and any severance agreement can be complicated. The club would be leaving itself wide open issuing official statements on all the topics you mention before anything was legally concluded.
In Mike Latham we have the best communications director in the game, his contacts are unreal, we have regularly appeared on BBC North West news before any other SL clubs which include the biggest in the country.
Communication and Press Releases from Leigh are second to none, how anyone can pick fault with an unpaid member of staff who loves the club, delivers world class service is beyond me.
Some people should really think hard before they type utter nonsense under alias's on forums like these!!
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Why are you and others so hung up about Jake and all the other issues you are talking about. All of them one way or another are very sensitive subjects to all involved and need to follow various processes before anything can be released. The fact rumours come out is because there are up to 35 players/staff directly involved on most occasions all of which think they can trust people and before you know it the rumours are in the hair dressers, dentists, pubs and play grounds not to mention on here.
The programme was simply a miss print on Jake and the official press release came out the day he left. He did not leave several weeks ago, there is a process to follow on all agreements and any severance agreement can be complicated. The club would be leaving itself wide open issuing official statements on all the topics you mention before anything was legally concluded.
In Mike Latham we have the best communications director in the game, his contacts are unreal, we have regularly appeared on BBC North West news before any other SL clubs which include the biggest in the country.
Communication and Press Releases from Leigh are second to none, how anyone can pick fault with an unpaid member of staff who loves the club, delivers world class service is beyond me.
Some people should really think hard before they type utter nonsense under alias's on forums like these!!'"
Didn't think it would be long before you piped up. I don't mind having a discussion with Maurice or demon. But I'm not getting into it with a cretin like you
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| Quote ="Iggy79"Didn't think it would be long before you piped up. I don't mind having a discussion with Maurice or demon. But I'm not getting into it with a cretin like you'"
Great reply, is that your best counter argument... Another bitter and twisted alias member of the fans forum...
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Great reply, is that your best counter argument... Another bitter and twisted alias member of the fans forum...'"
Bitter and twisted about what???
I made a comment - several pages ago - tat communication could be better at the club. Nothing bitter and twisted about it. You piped up in your usual arrogant way as the unofficial Derek fan club and started talking about hiding behind aliases.
I tweeted the club about Emmitt on Sunday night. People associated with the club know me. I wasn't hiding behind anything and asked a civil question. I find it hard to be civil with you because you've proved your arrogance on here and Twitter countless times.
I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are. If you don't like them, don't read them. Either way, don't waste my time
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| Last thing I will say on the matter, refusal to use the benefit of hindsight to do improve how you handle things in future is stubborn and arrogant in the extreme. My opinion is claiming injuries when there's something else happening in the background diminishes any credibility in future comms, and just fans the flames of the rumour mill. But hey, let's just keep doing the same thing over and over again. Who needs people to trust that what you are saying is true after all
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| Quote ="Iggy79"Bitter and twisted about what???
I made a comment - several pages ago - tat communication could be better at the club. Nothing bitter and twisted about it. You piped up in your usual arrogant way as the unofficial Derek fan club and started talking about hiding behind aliases.
I tweeted the club about Emmitt on Sunday night. People associated with the club know me. I wasn't hiding behind anything and asked a civil question. I find it hard to be civil with you because you've proved your arrogance on here and Twitter countless times.
I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are. If you don't like them, don't read them. Either way, don't waste my time'"
So your points are civil, yet mine are arrogant - do explain?
who mentioned Derek, you?
Only one person got issues mate and its not me, as for nothing to hide - who are you then?
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"So your points are civil, yet mine are arrogant - do explain?
who mentioned Derek, you?
Only one person got issues mate and its not me, as for nothing to hide - who are you then?'"
The arrogance I mentioned refers to several posts and tweets you have made.
Why would I have anything to hide? Does everyone who doesn't use their first name on here have a hidden agenda? Maurice isn't called Maurice, Charlie isn't called Charlie, demon, I'm fairly certain, isn't called demon!
My nickname since I was about 6 has been Iggy. It's a name in known as by everyone except my wife and my mum.
What exactly do you think I'm hiding? If you've got something to say, say it. Send me a PM if you don't want to post it on here. I do t imagine discretion is something you're bothered about though
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| Quote ="Iggy79"The arrogance I mentioned refers to several posts and tweets you have made.
Why would I have anything to hide? Does everyone who doesn't use their first name on here have a hidden agenda? Maurice isn't called Maurice, Charlie isn't called Charlie, demon, I'm fairly certain, isn't called demon!
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Can I just say that Demon is indeed called Demon, his name was changed by deed poll due to his evil and devil like actions.
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| Quote ="maurice"Can I just say that Demon is indeed called Demon, his name was changed by deed poll due to his evil and devil like actions.'"
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| Quote ="Iggy79"The arrogance I mentioned refers to several posts and tweets you have made.
Why would I have anything to hide? Does everyone who doesn't use their first name on here have a hidden agenda? Maurice isn't called Maurice, Charlie isn't called Charlie, demon, I'm fairly certain, isn't called demon!
My nickname since I was about 6 has been Iggy. It's a name in known as by everyone except my wife and my mum.
What exactly do you think I'm hiding? If you've got something to say, say it. Send me a PM if you don't want to post it on here. I do t imagine discretion is something you're bothered about though'"
Your opinion is just that an opinion you have no idea who i am. As for tweets, what tweets? Have a nice day wont you and keep moaning about the communication typical little Leyth syndrome. Team top of the league and still finding something to moan about.
Like a handful you seem to always link me with Derek, you brought his name up earlier then conveniently dropped it when i pointed your issue out.
As for questioning who you are, i try to do that on here now as you never know if your talking to the same person under multiple usernames.
Try the half full glass its wonderful
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Your opinion is just that an opinion you have no idea who i am. As for tweets, what tweets? Have a nice day wont you and keep moaning about the communication typical little Leyth syndrome. Team top of the league and still finding something to moan about.
Like a handful you seem to always link me with Derek, you brought his name up earlier then conveniently dropped it when i pointed your issue out.
As for questioning who you are, i try to do that on here now as you never know if your talking to the same person under multiple usernames.
Try the half full glass its wonderful
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I'll pm you rather than subject everyone else to this boring crap
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| Quote ="maurice"Can I just say that Demon is indeed called Demon, his name was changed by deed poll due to his evil and devil like actions.'"
Yes, I used to be called Derek
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