Agree 100% Leyther 14,about fine margins ,the same can be said of Fev another win and they would be playing for a SL place, one lose and Fax wouldn't have been there,all ifs ands ,and buts,again I'm sure DB didn't want to end up here, but we have,and have to carry on.

The composition is not Noisys writing ,it's just in his column,a lot of Journalists,do this,as was stated though the Parachute payment was just that, but how was it used?Totally dismantle a decent team, maybe some didn't want to play in the Championship, but a fair few would have stayed given the chance to do so , but DB and KC had other ideas.

That stuck out like a sore thumb - players pursuing 'full wages' would be a cast iron way to force administration and put themselves at the back of the queue for any debt payouts.

Off course it would, like that nob from the trade unions doesn't already know this, he is one of those little nobodies that if you put in a suit thinks that he is important and peopke can't see through him, perhaps if his tactics go belly up and the players are left with nothing he will over-write their losses.
The only truth in all of this is it is those and other players who have already departed are the main reason we are in this sorry mess, to all those who say it is Beaumont's fault, throughout this season DJB never knocked on once, he never missed a tackle, he didn't keep hold when he should have passed, he didn't walk about the field looking half interested, he didn't excecute nothing kicks to the opposition, he didn't get sent off and suspended, what he did do was give these guy's a job and pay them well with good money for the following year, they chose to wipe their ariss on the Leigh shirt, that is were the blame lies not the guy putting his trust and the fans of the club in our town in them.
If they have to leave with nothing so be it, they are responsible for pressing their own self destruct button.

It's not the fault of the majority of players left behind, the over paid players have sorted themselves out whilst Beaumont is shafting those players on ordinary money who have bills to pay. I know that the majority of these lads would not push for money past the end of the year however he's trying to get out of paying in November and he's already refusing to pay any promised win bonuses, the union is doing what it does , looking after its members from unscrupulous incompetent employers.

Conversely, he didn't have the courage to dispatch Jukes post relegation. Perhaps he came cheap.

Not an ideal situation and a difficult time for all, however what do you suggest he pays you with

The money that he was going to use if we made top four, 1.2 million plus approx 1 mill gate fees plus remaining match gate fees, this team is winning it's games and attracting 3 to 4 thousand loyal speccys, plus transfer fees for several of the senior players, plus any money Beaumont has loaned (not given) to the club, the money should be in Leigh's bank account including all wages already saved, it's not Beaumont's to dip into as he sees fit and bully young lads by threatening to call in his loans and sink the club.

Strong words and views Hanibal,obviously you are entitled to your opinions and from what you inferr you know more than most.
Myself I'm not sure if money was loaned or given to the Club, I would hope it was given,as for bullying the young lads,I would have thought they should be praised for turning in such good performances in the light of the difficult times.
The blame finger has to be pointed at the players firstly,as stated DB didn't miss the tackles , give the penalties away or get suspended, but he DID promise to pay the contract money and now can't, I again would hope he doesn't threaten to sink the Club, after all he says he loves the Club ,so all we as fans can do at the moment is wonder.Myself I will be at Fev on Sunday cheering on the 17 lads that wear the shirt.

Overall I agree with your point Harry , I do believe Derek wouldn't be doing this unless he had no other option

No it probably isn't , and since the ' cull ' they've put in very enthusiastic performances which I thank them for

I will be there as well this squad is worth following and supporting the last game of qualifiers against Sheffield was the best atmosphere all year bar none, the players were buzzing only to find their wages cut. Last rant for now could go on but promise not to.

I don't regard your posts as a rant Hanibal,as I said you are the same as us all entitled to a opinion,I respect all of them.Again I hadn't heard about the wages cut you refer to,a bit wrong after a couple of good results and performances.

I won't disagree with that Centurino nor his faith in Kieron Cunningham either both in my opinion bad moves on Beaumont's part.
But whatever the reason it was up to those players to earn the money they were payed for, if you consider they really tried I will argue the opposite with you forever, with your hand on heart tell me i am wrong in particular the games against TWP 1st up at home, Barrow away, Tolouse home and the finest of the lot Halifax away, then even at the end of the season in two of the last 3 games when points differance still mattered the bottom 2 clubs shipped nearly 60 points in against us!

I was at The Shay for the Fax v Leigh game. Before the match I had a discussion with some Leigh lads which went along the lines of my team is worse than your team, we both expected to get well beaten. As we all know it turned out to be a fairly comfortable win for Fax. After this game both teams improved as the season went on, and it proved Fax had got Leigh at just the right time. The point being it was much the same lads playing for your club post Fax as to who turned in such a shambolic display at The Shay. Summat was wrong and no way did your 17 that day put in 100%. Saying that and one decision here or there and you would have made top four. Fine lines indeed.

We know what was wrong, the coach who said to his playing staff "im out of my depth and don't know how to fix it" got to control who we did & didn't sign and was kept in a job 12 months too long.

No more no less.

This is when the club will get tarnished by how DB conducts business

At which point of his tenure did he come out with those comments

Whoever a club signs, those players should give 100%, always. I don't think that could be said of all the Leigh players that day at The Shay.

I was at the Shay pre-Beaumont days when Leigh turned in a shocking display, to see Leigh players laughing behind the sticks following another Fax try to add to their rapidly spiralling total really hurt!
The following week we played Wigan away in the CC and I didn't go out of protest, what I also didn't know was that the Leigh players at Fax had not been paid and, didn't know if they were going to be!
I recall Derek Beaumont standing up and saying; i'll pay the players! the rest of course is history

Charlie your disappointed and annoyed like me and presumably all our fans but, Dont let T***ers like Nosey Parker and his Cynical Editor Danny Lockwood who, wrote a damming Editoral on Beamont the week before bother you they are only printing stories that they know will make their readers chuckle at our demise


Of course Beaumont has made mistakes however, its been his money (mainly) that he has made those mistakes with not yours or, mine!
At the start of the Season can you honestly say you weren't happy with the squad, Beaumont had assembled?
His loyalty may have been his undoing only he can decide that? Many feel Paul Rowley was lucky not be sacked after our performances in the Qualifiers in 2015 when we finished Bottom of the group? Neil Jukes too was lucky not to be dismissed after the MPG!
How badly have we performed this season? we lost five of our first six matches and this has proved to be fatal to Beaumont's plan of an early return to SL ! We have subsequently won 17 of our last 19 league fixtures and soundly beaten SL side Salford in the CC too

Those stats will stand up against any club in this country!
We know the fine line that has cost us and, had any of the top four clubs played Toronto three times they too would not be in the Qualifiers! For what its worth, I do feel Leigh are/were the best team in the Comp regardless of how its ended!
I'm desperately sorry the season has turned out like this however, lets not join in with the Gloaters in condeming DB most other clubs would have been happy to have had his backing!

Was that the game Beaumont was fighting in the crowd?

Charlie, the man sat next to Juksey was Cunningham. We can all use Juksey as a scapegoat,but you don't have to be an Einstein to who was getting the bigger wage.

Kirky I can't disagree with most of your post,myself I'm disappointed yes,annoyed yes, and hurting, I feel let down as well.As you rightly say those first 6 games defined the rest of our season,the Barrow away defeat should have been Jukesys swansong ,DB has to take the blame for not showing him the door,I'm a betting man and before a ball was kicked at the start of the season,Leigh were 2/ 7 to finish top of the League,in other words near certain.
After games against Toronto Barrow, Toulouse, Fev ,were we lost and threw away decent leads ,the damage had been done,again you rightly point out how we became the form team later ,after the Fax debacle,losing only to Toronto twice.

I WAS very happy with the recruiting of players for this season,and even understood DBS gamble of giving them 2 year contracts,but things started to go wrong, Baptiste wasn't happy,and went home, Vaivai was injured for the season,the Riddy saga wasn't good for us,eventually Jukesy was shown the door,Blackpool wasn't good, the Matautia sin binning cost us, then the goal at the end which wasn't a goal,and Matautia sent off at Fev,all downers,coupled with Fax ,Toulouse and London all playing great rugby.

The rest of the season is now history, like most Leythers I'm hurting, looking for someone to blame, it's human nature,I won't desert the Club though,and will be at Fev on Sunday, I'm hopeful things will get sorted and hope we don't go into administration.Will things get worse?I hope not ,but they probably will.Charlie.

Atomic, I won't argue with that, I never look at money folk are on, as it's not my business, but I agree KC was probably on more than Jukesy, again KC was responsible for the Recruiting of players ,of which I think most Leythers were happy, but Jukesy was responsible for Coaching, and we lost not only games , but good leads against teams,12 against Toronto, at least 10 against Barrow, around 16 against Toulouse,which should not have occurred.

I'm not making Jukesy the scapegoat, because KC, DB, and the players must take a percentage of the blame ,I feel so down at our current position, and it will be a crying shame if we go into Administration.