Maurice agree with Watcher, haven't seen if he was or wasn't yet though

Well you can't tell off the video. Ellis raises his arm to tell our lads he is going to kick then the outside backs run and they do look to have made some good ground before dragging the Cat lad into touch.

To be sure you would need to be in the West stand near the half way line. Frankb would like to know if the Watcher was sat there.

Had a hunch that Higson might have been offside as Ellis kicked from quite a deep position.

The Watcher was sat very close to where Blanch caught the kick & therefore does not know if any of our players were offside.

You'd struggle not to know if he was there, he's the bloke behind you shouting "the watcher thinks that was offside ref"!

Well on balance it looks like it was offside.

When you review a lot of the contraversial decisions Childs made he does seem to be justified with some of them.

Now I know he got a bad reception but we have to remember we may get him again this season.



Good performance by him is therefore my view.

? Well we would not have won the Challenge Cup would we.

I guess the camera would not be able to pick up whether a Leigh player or Cats No.15 palmed the ball dead which resulted in a repeat set for the Cats which led to one of their 1st half tries?

What was the view from the rest of the North Stand?

On reflection, it took only one incorrect call to rob us of the match (or at least a chance at the "Golden Point"icon_wink.gif. Maybe he got the other 3 right but......

What this guys gives is strange decisions at strange times that no other refs appear to give which confuses ans, players and coaches of both teams.

He is either top class or top clown.

I usuallly go with the percenages

I honestly don't believe he's 'bias' towards any teams, he's just incompetent. He let's blatant penalties go and then blows up when there's a vague chance that there was a foul. I don't think it's a co-incidence that the games where the fans/coaches have gone mad it was the home team that felt robbed.

I am not sure about the last bit Jonny.

I remember the first game he reffed with us involved. It was at Fev in a NRC tie they got the penalty count something like 24-4.

Charlie Caroli thinks Frank B was going over the Top in his Friendship with our French opponents, Charlie thinks this bloke had seen a Bus Station before ,and didnt need a guided tour of Leigh Bus Station

no wonder people avoid Frank B.

I really can't subscribe to the theory that Mr Child cost us the game. I think he had a poor game, and seemed to mystify the players (all of them) quite a lot. He seems to enjoy seeing teams under pressure, near their own line, by often awarding three decisions one way, followed by three the other!

I thought each side was awarded a controversial try, (Goulden's and Stacul's) so that balanced out.

In all honesty, what I thought cost us the game, was a slight, but maybe understandable, lack of composure at times. (e.g. Stuart Donlan and Steve Maden getting their wires crossed with a walk-over beckoning)

It would have been great to win, but the side proved so many good things about themselves and another cup game (or more!) may have proved a very big distraction, from more important objectives.

Oh no not another one.

Gouldens try was good, the ball was knocked forward by a cats hand the video shows it clearly - well the DVD does - and the ref was only feet away.

Fair enough Fred - I was just going from what my (slightly less than 20/20) eyes saw.

Still don't think he cost us the game - we did create enough chances/half chances to win it. (deservedly IMO)

Alan, there was only 6 points in it, they were awarded a try (converted) wherby evidence suggests it was dubious to say the least. I cannot see how this potentially did not cost us a chance of a golden point game unless there were other decisions which were incorrect leading to our points or incorrect in chalking of any of their scores.

I take your point about the times when we could have been a little more clinical but there were times when they could have been more linical and scored, but on both accounts neither team scored.

Childs cost us the opportunity of a golden point game and these days I do not blame the referee for our misfortunes when once upon a time it was always the refs faul t

Finally getting round to watching the game again and Catalans' first try in the second half was never grounded in the memory of man. Scandal.

Having watched the game again, the bounced try was exactly that a bounce.Some of Childs calls were pure guess work IMO.

Anyone else notice how long McGilvray was held back for after dropping the intercept in the lead up to their last try? Still none the wiser as to how the ball went flying forward when Blanch was tackled.

Me neither but I assume he must have kicked it.Re Deano being held back 'about 2 seconds in my view.

just a question (not a criticism) - what do you Leythers think about the attendance of 2237 ?

seems a bit low for me for a visiting SL side ?

I thought most Leythers were expecting 3000+ ?

No away fans.

...and a split gate

Thats what I thought!!

so during the 2005 SL season half the fans who attended were visiting fans ?

assuming an average of about 5000 ish,that is

TBH the less said about the att the better but i did have a laugh when they annouced it.