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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Its made in Scotland from Giirrrrrders
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Isn't it made in Atherton?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I rest my case
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Ive NEVER seen you carrying a case but if you feel you need to rest it feel free , put it down.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"Isn't it made in Atherton?'"
No , i think its only bottled there i prefer Coke its the real thing.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"No , i think its only bottled there
i prefer Coke =#FF0000:2ikshv1nits the real thing.[/
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Ive NEVER seen you carrying a case
but if you feel you need to rest it feel free , put it down.'"
Apologies Ian ,
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| Quote ="Starbug"
I love a quote, i feel a Poem coming on .
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"No , i think its only bottled there
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Barr shut ages ago didn't it? I'm sure leighonardo will be along soon
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| How did this Higson to Swinton topic hybrid to POP?Next we will have folk meandering along spouting Caroli type messages .
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"How did this Higson to Swinton topic hybrid to POP?Next we will have folk meandering along spouting Caroli type messages
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It happened here
Quote leighonardo wrote:Well my point is that prior to AT coming on board, there was an open fans meeting held in the MM Bar during October 2006, discussing a financial deficit and the clubs sorry state of affairs. We had no coach, no team, no CEO. We were all encouraged to help the club out by buying a season ticket, joining the lottery and increasing our LISA contributions as otherwise the future was looking very bleak, simply put.
The meeting was chaired from the clubs perspective by Mr Coffey and Mr Freer.
Roll on to October 2011, and what have the club achieved under the present incumbernts? We all know the answer....
So what are the barriers to finding new 'investment'?
I do wonder why Mr Ainscough was interested enough to come along to 'a few meetings' as Mr Freer informed us at the fans forum he did, but then ultimately decided that 'investing' into Leigh RL is not suitable for his circumstances right now.
In truth nothing , because we have just made exactly the same mistakes as all the previous administrations
ie , Believing that a winning team [ or a shiny new stadium will result in an increase in support
It doesn't , we are a ' luxury item ' , people dont ' Have ' to buy us , we are not a loaf of bread or a tin of beans
So why do people spend stupid amounts of money buying things they dont need ? they are convinced by advertising/marketing/sampling that they want it
We havent done any ' marketing/advertising/sampling for years , and until we do we will continue to struggle , as I put on this or another thread , Castleford are the model we need to emulate , they are a town of similar size to ourselves with a history of similar industry , they have built up a ' Brand ' that their population have bought in to , thats why they are where they are , and why we are where we are '"
Then you proved the power of advertising with the ' Giiiiirders ' quote
So I think ," I'm worth it " being told I am right
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| Thats me showing my age Ste, ilike all the old Programmes and ADS.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Thats me showing =#FF0000my age Ste, ilike all the old Programmes and ADS.'"
But stil worth it
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Barr shut ages ago didn't it? I'm sure leighonardo will be along soon
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Moved the Atherton branch to Horwich I think. Leighonardo's probably chained himself to his desk, incandescent with rage at the thought somebody might not have heard of irn bru, not to mention the blatant usage of the slogan of one of their competitors....
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| Just a little reminder to all of you giving Swinton stick...its your house that isnt in order not ours,sad as I am to say that and I am honestly not gloating,and that of the 17 players we have confirmed as signing 16 of them were with us last season! Not exactly splashing it around. And eight of that 16 were with us the year before. These are facts not rumours.
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| Quote ="mark richardson"Just a little reminder to all of you giving Swinton stick...its your house that isnt in order not ours,sad as I am to say that and I am honestly not gloating,and that of the 17 players we have confirmed as signing 16 of them were with us last season! Not exactly splashing it around. And eight of that 16 were with us the year before. These are facts not rumours.'"
Mark , you'd be hard pushed to find a Leyther giving the Lions any real ' stick ' , I'd go as far to suggest that like myself there are many from Leigh who would follow your club next if we didn't exist , I and many other leythers look forward to visiting you and having you at ours this coming season
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| Hear Hear don't be too sensitive Mark they give our own team far more stick than they give others
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| Quote ="leighonardo"Well my point is that prior to AT coming on board, there was an open fans meeting held in the MM Bar during October 2006, discussing a financial deficit and the clubs sorry state of affairs. We had no coach, no team, no CEO. We were all encouraged to help the club out by buying a season ticket, joining the lottery and increasing our LISA contributions as otherwise the future was looking very bleak, simply put.
The meeting was chaired from the clubs perspective by Mr Coffey and Mr Freer.
Roll on to October 2011, and what have the club achieved under the present incumbernts? We all know the answer....
So what are the barriers to finding new 'investment'?
I do wonder why Mr Ainscough was interested enough to come along to 'a few meetings' as Mr Freer informed us at the fans forum he did, but then ultimately decided that 'investing' into Leigh RL is not suitable for his circumstances right now.'"
To be fair the circumstances were a little different then. There was a lot of mistruths banded about then and the club didn't handle things at all well. People were at a low ebb by the loss of Tony Benson as coach. As far as I remember everyone got paid.
We were fortunate in the fact that AT came on board and began to bank roll the club and run it his way. The financial landscape was very different then too.
Fast forward 5 years and we've had 2 recessions, lots of redundancies, record levels of unemployment. I don't think the money is there for people to invest. We've got firstly club staff and then secondly club players who are going without wages.
Forget the investment, forget the one great white knight, he's been locked out of the castle. That said, if one appears this must be seen as a Brucie bonus. Fan involvement has to be the future in line with a sound business plan and one that can be built on. Who knows, if it is run well and the club continues and progresses it could attract investment.
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| We could do with a little bit of the fine Carlos Tevez has been given, 1.5million. Does anyone have Sheikh Mansour's email address?
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| Quote ="Starbug"1st thing is out of our control
2 nd thing , which businesses are these ?'"
Is it out of our control???? Have we voiced concerns??
Every businessman or women Leigh, have we asked them??
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| Hi TS, are you ok? I've noticed in a few of your recent posts there is a little venom struggling to get out.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Hi TS, are you ok? I've noticed in a few of your recent posts there is a little venom struggling to get out.'"
Not at all D. When I know we've asked every businessman women and general fan of Leigh can we help or donate then I will settle for under paying people. Anything short is a disgrace.
I'd hazard a guess a high number of us have been through redundancy situations in recent years it's not nice to say the least!!
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Not at all D. When I know we've asked every businessman women and general fan of Leigh can we help or donate then I will settle for under paying people. Anything short is a disgrace.'"
In all fairness Ste would you be able to compile such a list? I'd say that just about every possible outlet has been used to highlight the financial problems and in all honesty I think you're doing a bit of a dis-service to the people who are working their nads off to come up with fundraising ideas and implement them.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Is it out of our control???? Have we voiced concerns??
Every businessman or women Leigh, have we asked them??'"
You haven't been to a RFL council or APC meeting have you ?
The majority sit there quietly , one or two voice their concerns , Nigel or Richard ( probably Ralph now ) give the pre selected answers on how they are looking at all the options and are confident things will be fine , then they have the buffet
I'll ask the question again
How many businesses in Leigh ( and surrounding area ) are owned by leythers and employ more than 20 people ?
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| Quote ="leighonardo"I agree. I have been advocating the necessity to invest in our brand equity for years.
My avatar is a case in point. Irn-Bru is the number one grocery brand in Scotland.
Why do you think they spend £millions advertising all over Scotland every year ?
The answer is not only to remain number one grocery brand but to also remain as number one selling soft drink year on year in an extremely competitive market.'"
On the subject of marketing , take a look at some of Gutterfaxs ideas on the 'This time of year again ' thread on the Quinbroncos site , they are very good , and let's face it , their problems are similar to ours , him being a genuine ' Marketing Guru ' currently working in New Zealand , but a cockney RL convert , gives him a clearer view of the sport and the problems within it
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| Quote ="Starbug"Mark , you'd be hard pushed to find a Leyther giving the Lions any real ' stick ' , I'd go as far to suggest that like myself there are many from Leigh who would follow your club next if we didn't exist , I and many other leythers look forward to visiting you and having you at ours this coming season
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| Ken Gowers , now there was a good player , as was Johnny Stopford , Dave Robinson ,Georgie Parkinson , and Alan Buckley , memories of my youth .
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