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| It would be great to sign him, i think a move to cas would be unwise. Do people think he is actually ready for sl? I reckon another season or 2 with us, learning his trade but benefit him enormousy imo. Also if we did sign him, then NO stupid sl release clayses. By doing that it would show loyalty from the player, and more importantly, when the inevitable happens and he is sold, we get some money, instead of losing our good young uns for nowt. Fax have just re_signed murrell on a 3 year deal, with no sl clause.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Because three weeks or so ago same poster was claiming Wire and Saints were in for Ryan, which of course they weren't. Some fan two weeks before a major final stirring poop.
Steve Pike gave me some good advice humour or ignore, I chose the later.
Cheers
Andy.'"
Cryer64 isn't stirring anything up, he was just reporting some fan speculation that he has read on a Cas Forum. Why would you want to ignore him?? Does everything have to be passed before your eyes now before anyone can post on this MB.
It isn't very professional of you as a chairperson of a professional Rugby League team to keep trading banter in this way with fans. It doesn't portray Leigh RLFC in a professional light.
Anything that doesn't agree with The State Agenda will be ignored. Are you also using the NSA Prism programme to monitor emails and telephone calls.
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"It isn't very professional of you as a chairperson of a professional Rugby League team to keep trading banter in this way with fans. It doesn't portray Leigh RLFC in a professional light. '"
Repeatedly presenting your opinion as fact will never make it fact.
That Andy, the BoM and many others disagree with your PoV should reinforce the concept that this is simply your opinion.
As an aside, what is your definition of 'professional'? I think it's about doing your job to a high standard. You seem to think its about distancing yourself from people.
I'm happy to know that we've got [ipeople[/i running the club, because if there's anything to learn since the great financial crash of 2008, it's that we can't assume that 'professionals' have any idea what they're doing.
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| To be honest reading some of your comments on here with all the offensive 'plastic leyther' accusations, you don't IMO give a very good view of the company you represent either WYSIWYG.
Being partial to the odd real ale I thought about trying a drop of Bobberly Bill or what ever it's called but you can shove it now instead.
Kind Regards
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"Repeatedly presenting your opinion as fact will never make it fact.
That Andy, the BoM and many others disagree with your PoV should reinforce the concept that this is simply your opinion.
As an aside, what is your definition of 'professional'? I think it's about doing your job to a high standard. You seem to think its about distancing yourself from people.
I'm happy to know that we've got [ipeople[/i running the club, because if there's anything to learn since the great financial crash of 2008, it's that we can't assume that 'professionals' have any idea what they're doing.'"
I never thought I'd say this but to an extent I agree with Wyggy on this. Michael I don't Wyggy thinks being professional means distancing yourself from people, but rather looking at the facts, and debating the point using his knowledge and experience in a persuasive manner. As opposed to calling people names and sing behind his hand because he knows how to press a button that ignores anyone he doesn't agree with.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"To be honest reading some of your comments on here with all the offensive 'plastic leyther' accusations, you don't IMO give a very good view of the company you represent either WYSIWYG.
Being partial to the odd real ale I thought about trying a drop of Bobberly Bill or what ever it's called but you can shove it now instead.
Kind Regards
Mr Harold Rigby Esq.'"
Harold,
I know for a fact that Wysiwyg has no association with Wobbly Bobs at all, other than he drinks the stuff.
And while it has to be said he doesn't set a promising example of it's long term effects on the brain, I wouldn't let it put you off having a go.
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| You always agree with him. I hit ignore because he never engaged anything constructive simply repeating his garbage in every discussion taking place
This club is where it is, some of us want to help move it forward others kill it, I want a club I have watched from being 5 with many of my family who are no longer here to become better not die, which seems to be his goal and yours. If I have made the wrong assumption I look forward to you telling me what you are doing to help it prosper
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| I posted on here again to keep this MB a free speech MB, NOT a MB that now appears to have to be vetted by the chairperson and if your opinion differs, then he presses the ignore button.
I posted to support a poster who only reported some remarks on a Cas forum. He wasn't stirring anything at all as he was accused of, but then again he isn't in your gang.
And as for Advocaat - you should have put some sun cream on or better still try putting a duvet in your mouth!!!
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"I posted on here again to keep this MB a free speech MB, NOT a MB that now appears to have to be vetted by the chairperson and if your opinion differs, then he presses the ignore button.
I posted to support a poster who only reported some remarks on a Cas forum. He wasn't stirring anything at all as he was accused of, but then again he isn't in your gang.
And as for Advocaat - you should have put some sun cream on or better still try putting a duvet in your mouth!!!'"
Actually, if you check a later post by Andy, he points out that he wasn't responding to 'cryer64's' post, but to one by PNE.
Also, factually, when was Andy promoted to 'chairman' of the club? Did this happen when I was on holiday, as I thought John Roddy was 'Interim Chairman'?
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| Cryer posts a lot of contract stuff about Leigh players, he even told us what saints had offered Hopkins in one
If he is your agent Ryan you don't need one
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| Quote ="Alan"Actually, if you check a later post by Andy, he points out that he wasn't responding to 'cryer64's' post, but to one by PNE.
Also, factually, when was Andy promoted to 'chairman' of the club? Did this happen when I was on holiday, as I thought John Roddy was 'Interim Chairman'?'"
Cryer64 or PNE it just shows you why a chairperson or director or anyone associated with the club in an official capacity is better staying off the MB. It is so unprofessional. As I stated in a previous post, it sets a precedent for the playing/coaching staff, thankfully they are too professional to do that.
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| fact is he is not good enough all round for Super league....great in broken play / backing up but kicking game and defence well below SL standard. He would get absolutely pulverised......that's not knocking the kid he's a decent Championship player who has an eye for an opening........maybe in the future I don't know.....for now no way
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| As with everyone else on this Forum , Charlie does NOT want Ryan Brierley to leave the club , though I feel it will inevitably happen , class players always get snapped up by bigger clubs its just a fact of life .
As for Free Speech?I totally agree everyone is entitled to say what they think , and without doubt though I don't agree with him , I DO think the rubbish WYSIWYG talks is just as good as the rubbish everyone else talks , including the rubbish I talk , its just the way he sees things , I realise we have to have Moderators , but some use their powers for their own personal opinions .
So for me WYSIWYG , Cryer , Diablo Advocaat , or anyone else should keep posting on here , we are not in a Dictator State yet , and as for the BOM , I applaud them for being open and crystal Clear about things at the club , many years ago , life and happenings at the club , was all kept behind the Hilton Park Iron Curtain .
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| I don't begrudge anyone having their views but basically he(WYSIWYG) just seems to love having a dig at the club plus its the way he comes across, he sounds like a teenager who thinks the whole world is against him with the name calling on here ,so thats why I chose to ignore him but people still keep quoting him so you end up seeing his post any way .
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| Quote ="Rhino Roy"fact is he is not good enough all round for Super league....great in broken play / backing up but kicking game and defence well below SL standard. He would get absolutely pulverised......that's not knocking the kid he's a decent Championship player who has an eye for an opening........maybe in the future I don't know.....for now no way'"
You posted something very similar on April 26 at 9.35pm
Well being selfish I hope we can keep him until promotion and relegation is reintroduced for all 3 leagues and then maybe our gates will increase then he might still be here for a good few seasons.
His defence is fine can't understand why you think it isn't.
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| just my opinion mate that is obviously shared by the SL clubs....personally Ridyard offers more.....minus yard of pace I guess. Unfortunately decent young halves don't get a shot very often due to the aussie influx especially with the more 'Elite' clubs generally.......look at that Miller for Hull....not breaking any pots and defence and positioning is woeful but who cares he's Australian !!
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| Quote ="itsatry!"I don't begrudge anyone having their views but basically he(WYSIWYG) just seems to love having a dig at the club plus its the way he comes across, he sounds like a teenager who thinks the whole world is against him with the name calling on here ,so thats why I chose to ignore him but people still keep quoting him so you end up seeing his post any way .'"
Sorry about re-engaging him - was just trying to correct a couple of misapprehensions on his part. No problem with him having an opinion though.
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| Everyone entitled to one whoever they are on this forum. As long as they stick to the AUP thanks lynda
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Everyone entitled to one whoever they are on this forum. As long as they stick to the AUP thanks lynda'"
1.4 of acceptable usage policy says he isn't sticking to policy
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| Sorry mate I have to disagree with you;
Wysywyg does not approve of any non contracted Leyther putting on a Leigh shirt and if that is what he thinks and truly believes it well so be it.
I think he is wrong btw and wonder what his opinion is of players going out on loan because that has been in operation for how long ?
I hope he and one or two others realise that we are where we are and hope to see him backing the club' I know he supports' sooner rather than later.
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| Quote ="Alan"Sorry about re-engaging him - was just trying to correct a couple of misapprehensions on his part. No problem with him having an opinion though.'"
Thats quite alright Alan ,I,m over it now
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| hhhmmmm seems to me Andy Mazey (SRW) cannot do right for doing wrong, if he had not engaged in this thread to clarify the situation clearly, rightly or wrongly so then all you same POSTERS/FANS/MOANERS would have started a thread stating a lack of transparency from the club regarding this matter!!!
Make your minds up please this crap is tedious, we now have fans running the club with the best will at heart which like to engage with other fans and and have a open arms policy in regards to feedback.
He quite clearly states the clubs stance on this situation ans although may not be titled communications director is acting in that manner and quashing rumour quickly. good lad i say keep it up, keep us informed and move the club forward!!
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| Quote ="Binosh"hhhmmmm seems to me Andy Mazey (SRW) cannot do right for doing wrong, if he had not engaged in this thread to clarify the situation clearly, rightly or wrongly so then all you same POSTERS/FANS/MOANERS would have started a thread stating a lack of transparency from the club regarding this matter!!!
Make your minds up please this crap is tedious, we now have fans running the club with the best will at heart which like to engage with other fans and and have a open arms policy in regards to feedback.
He quite clearly states the clubs stance on this situation ans =#FF0000although may not be titled communications director is acting in that manner and quashing rumour quickly. good lad i say keep it up, keep us informed and move the club forward!!'"
Andy is one of four members of the new BOM, who are charged with being on the Communications Management Team so, as you suggest, he is just doing his job - very well, in my opinion.
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| Course Andy is doing a great job.
Ask any Leyther who uses this forum and attends our games.
Everyone is well chuffed with the direction our BOM is taking the club.
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| Wysiwyg isn't Frank but is he still a Leyther?
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