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| Martin, the Fev commentator is a top bloke. I always have a good chat with him.
Like underthesticks I remember the last NRC game at Fev well....
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| It''s a bloody hard game. Leigh have always had a physical side - and we haven't always had it "our own way" when playing Leigh.
I try to be as objective as I can. When Ingy got sent off v Hunslet I thought it was a stupid reaction to provocation that deservedly got him 2 matches.
When Tim got sent off v Batley I again thought - daft deliberate action deserving 2 games. Sometimes it happens - AT ALL CLUBS!!!!
The 'point's scoring or assuming the moral high ground gets a bit tedious when folks are quick to leap on indiscretions (perceived or otherwise) of opposition players carefully omitting from their text that their teams players would be even capable of contemplating such action - when reality suggests otherwise.
Now this Jamie Child thing - I watched us on the wrong end of a 17-2 pen count that same season at widnes. What an hapless kuwaiti tanker she is.
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| So in other words, we are back to square one with this incident. Leigh did not cite the incident because they never do. The RFL disciplinary must have singled this incident out. DVD inconclusive, so they are saying they basically haven't got the required level of footage to say one way or t'other ( they haven't got a clue) If Leigh can replicate the way that Dickens and England approached this tackle with regularity and go unpunished on Thursday and in future matches this season, I will be very pleased.
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| Pownall has not broke his collar bone and could be back for the Dewsbury game' AND in the NRC Final of course.
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| I know Pownall hasn't fractured it, but I think it is probably a bit optimistic to expect him back for Dewsbury. I hope you are right though. He will have been out for three weeks then I suppose.
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| Quote ="underthesticks"So in other words, we are back to square one with this incident. Leigh did not cite the incident because they never do. The RFL disciplinary must have singled this incident out. DVD inconclusive, so they are saying they basically haven't got the required level of footage to say one way or t'other ( they haven't got a clue)'"
Neither player nor coach made any suggestions of foul play and indicated that these things happen in a contact sport - hence no citation from Leigh.
The evidence they reviewed suggests whilst inconclusive suggests "shoulder to shoulder", which is how player, coach and myself saw it in real time.
Are you suggesting they should have banned Ingy or Stu because of "your feelings" despite what evidence there is suggesting otherwise?
Quote ="underthesticks"icon_wink.gif If Leigh can replicate the way that Dickens and England approached this tackle with regularity and go unpunished on Thursday and in future matches this season, I will be very pleased.'"
I expect Rugby League forrads to approach each tackle with aggression and determination. If it's a fair tackle I'll accept the outcome.
If a player comes out with the deliberate attempt to illegally hurt someone then he'll be sent from the field.
I realise you haven't suggested that UTS but the underlying tone is there. e.g. despite player testimony and available evidence you still believe foul play took place and went unpunished - something you hope will be reciprocated thursday!
C'est la vie.
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| I am stating(not suggesting) that I will be very pleased if Leigh can carry out challenges such as the one we are discussing and go unpunished. I will also be extremely surprised.
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| fair do's. As the tackle was a legal one I wouldn't have an issue with leigh players replicating it!
C'est la vie.
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| BTW RFF, as I have said before, I respect you as a poster, but you, just like myself, are bound to be a bit biased. The incident has gone, so we move on. C'est la vie as you say. However, take Leigh and Fev out of the equation and the Pownall incident and please reassure me that you do not genuinely believe that RL refs always send players from the field that deserve it. I know you know the game too well for that. Have you never watched the wonderful SL?
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| Occassionally, and it really is occasionally. i.e. when our 23's haven't got a game, carol is reading "yet another 50 shades of grey" and doesn't want disturbing, and when there's nowt else on telly and I can get a freebie streaming service on t'interweb - I might, just might watch cas get beat!
You know as well as I do that players sometimes get away with murder (some more than others) and some get targeted because of their reputation - neither is fair.
I also realise that 3 officials have to make several decisions a second throughout the game and they are charged with officiating on how many tackles a game?? It's inevitable that some dodgy ones go unpunished. It happens.
As an aside, this season we've had more than our fair share at the disciplinary. Our discipline earlier this season mirror'ed 2007/8 season - at times it was sheeeite!! No fev players have appeared at the disciplinary without just cause. Similarly, it is inevitable that some fev players have got away with wrong un. It happens. The reaction of opposition coaches/players are usually a good indicator. Tho given Karl Harrison's response to thursday's defeat you might question that sentence!
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| Am I correct in saying that Pownall came off with a facial injury also?
I have replayed the tackle a few times and this was not caused by the shoulder contact but possibly by the fev forward diving on him with force with a swinging right arm as he lay injured on the ground. Hard game it is but that wasn't very sporting.
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| Quote ="Leigh24.7"Am I correct in saying that Pownall came off with a facial injury also?
I have replayed the tackle a few times and this was not caused by the shoulder contact but possibly by the fev forward diving on him with force with a swinging right arm as he lay injured on the ground.'"
Possibly, but that's not what Pownall, Rowley or the disciplinary suggested. "Shoulder to shoulder" being the likely conclusion.
Under the sticks is correct. Time to let this one go now. The disciplinary has concluded, player, coach, Leigh club and RFL see no case to answer. It's a hard game. Stuff happens.
I'm heartened to here the lad is not injured as badly as we first assumed. I hope he's back playing for Leigh as soon as is possible. I wish him good luck and a very speedy recovery.
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| Glad johnny s not has bad as orginally stated
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| On a serious note we have to give it out a bit on Thursday as Dickens normally gets away with murder and we must make the ref take ownership and not give him an easy ride. Same with the halves, Fev targeted ours and got away with a bit last week - would like to see that reciprocated.
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| The RFL would only rule on the official game dvd and that wasn't the Featherstone one which was filmed from the gantry something I believe (looking at youTUBE) Leigh's wasn't.
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| either club can offer other evidence to support their case should they wish! I believe all video evidence was reviewed on the Tangi/Rangi incident.
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| They are just a set of dirty Yorkshire b45t4rds!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"They are just a set of dirty Yorkshire b45t4rds!!!!!!!'"
we used to be a just a set of shiiiite Yorkshire b45t4rds that lost most weeks.
I know which i prefer
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| Apologies to the Fathers of our Dirty Yorkie friends.
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"They are just a set of dirty Yorkshire b45t4rds!!!!!!!'"
Make that Champion dirty Yorkshire b4st4ards.
And Norther rail cup finalist dirty Yorkshire b4st4ards 2012
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| We need our fat lads to make a big impact very early on in the game , big hits,lots of aggression.
UP THE ROVERS..........
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| And Norther rail cup finalist dirty Yorkshire b4st4ards 2012
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