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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Whoever suggested that I wanted to be a Wigginer, If that was my desire I have had plenty of opportunities over the years but I have stuck with our lot.'"
It was you who said you were fed up of us ' tripping up ' , I just assumed if thats the case then you'd go and follow a winning club at the top of the tree
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| Quote ="ColD"How do you suggest we go forward Charlie considering our current predicament - we can't possible go anywhere but backwards team/budget wise compared to the beginning of this season
It's all well and good saying we can't afford to go backwards, but we really don't have much choice
Oh hang on, I haven't checked my Euromillions from Friday- that may solve a few problems
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Col, I agree that compared to the beginning of this season we will have to go backwards,the Money from the RL being vastly reduced,but we can make some sort of fist of the situation .We spent money very librally last season mainly on overseas signings,again it's obvious our belt will have to be tightened, but let's try to make signing for Leigh an attractive move not a negative one,a lot of Clubs are already planning for next season already.
In our present state we would probably win 7 or 8 games next season out of the proposed 27, that in my mind would be relagation form,we have to get the crowds wanting to watch Leigh, yesterday's game wasn't a good advert.
It's been said we should go back to playing a team of Leigh players, no overseas players in an ideal world great,but we need quality players , fans can go and watch East or Miners ,for a team of Leigh players and save a fair few quid off the entrance money.
I've always said I'd do anything to help Leigh Centurions, and I stand by that, but help must start at the top, hopefully DB will reconsider his thoughts,and start the ball rolling. There is no quick fix, but we can't go into freefall, which will happen if we stay as we are .
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"It was you who said you were fed up of us ' tripping up ' , I just assumed if thats the case then you'd go and follow a winning club at the top of the tree'"
Then you assume wrong Gubby,if you are who I think you are then I have had a few years on you following 'our lot' around, in that time it is not hard to make the observation I stated about Leigh RLFC, I never said I was fed up of it, but this season has most definatley delivered the biggest disapointment of the lot of them.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Col, I agree that compared to the beginning of this season we will have to go backwards,the Money from the RL being vastly reduced,but we can make some sort of fist of the situation .We spent money very librally last season mainly on overseas signings,again it's obvious our belt will have to be tightened, but let's try to make signing for Leigh an attractive move not a negative one,a lot of Clubs are already planning for next season already.
In our present state we would probably win 7 or 8 games next season out of the proposed 27, that in my mind would be relagation form,we have to get the crowds wanting to watch Leigh, yesterday's game wasn't a good advert.
It's been said we should go back to playing a team of Leigh players, no overseas players in an ideal world great,but we need quality players , fans can go and watch East or Miners ,for a team of Leigh players and save a fair few quid off the entrance money.
I've always said I'd do anything to help Leigh Centurions, and I stand by that, but help must start at the top, hopefully DB will reconsider his thoughts,and start the ball rolling. There is no quick fix, but we can't go into freefall, which will happen if we stay as we are .
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I believe the ball is already well and truely rolling Charlie
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Then you assume wrong Gubby,if you are who I think you are then I have had a few years on you following 'our lot' around, in that time it is not hard to make the observation I stated about Leigh RLFC, I never said I was fed up of it, but =#FF0000this season has most definatley delivered the biggest disapointment of the lot of them.'"
I agree with you there Harry. I guess some of that was down to the high expectations at the start, but this season has been a bitterly disappointing one for me too!
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| Quote ="ColD"I believe the ball is already well and truely rolling Charlie
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| Had Jukes been sacked (as he truly should have been) at the end of last season for not achieving the Worlds lowest target ever set by Mr Beaumont of winning the MPG then we would be celebrating our return to SL by now !
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Had Jukes been sacked (as he truly should have been) at the end of last season for not achieving the Worlds lowest target ever set by Mr Beaumont of winning the MPG then we would be celebrating our return to SL by now !'"
There are dozens of ' ifs ' that had they occurred we'd be somewhere else , probably better than we currently are , and plenty that would be worse
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Had Jukes been sacked (as he truly should have been) at the end of last season for not achieving the Worlds lowest target ever set by Mr Beaumont of winning the MPG then we would be celebrating our return to SL by now !'"
Not for me, we had a pretty strong squad out v Batley and were taken to the cleaners. There was a poll on here on one point when Rowley left asking which is the next coach for Leigh.
I was shot down when Jukes got the job and told to give him 10 games. Paul Cooke arrived and suddenly Jukes is a hero. We got promoted. Cookey leaves and we end up with KC. The rest is history.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Col, I agree that compared to the beginning of this season we will have to go backwards,the Money from the RL being vastly reduced,but we can make some sort of fist of the situation .We spent money very librally last season mainly on overseas signings,again it's obvious our belt will have to be tightened, but let's try to make signing for Leigh an attractive move not a negative one,a lot of Clubs are already planning for next season already.
In our present state we would probably win 7 or 8 games next season out of the proposed 27, that in my mind would be relagation form,we have to get the crowds wanting to watch Leigh, yesterday's game wasn't a good advert.
It's been said we should go back to playing a team of Leigh players, no overseas players in an ideal world great,but we need quality players , fans can go and watch East or Miners ,for a team of Leigh players and save a fair few quid off the entrance money.
I've always said I'd do anything to help Leigh Centurions, and I stand by that, but help must start at the top, hopefully DB will reconsider his thoughts,and start the ball rolling. There is no quick fix, but we can't go into freefall, which will happen if we stay as we are .
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I won't undermine your opinion Charlie,but surely the first step is new staff.
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| Quote ="atomic"Not for me, we had a pretty strong squad out v Batley and were taken to the cleaners. There was a poll on here on one point when Rowley left asking which is the next coach for Leigh.
I was shot down when Jukes got the job and told to give him 10 games. Paul Cooke arrived and suddenly Jukes is a hero. We got promoted. Cookey leaves and we end up with KC. The rest is history.
No point blaming one fella,when all including Purtill was involved.'"
I'm sorry but u have to blame juksey and Cunningham because they were the ones that made the decisions,yes purtill and ando are on the coaching staff but they didn't have say on who came or who went and juksey changed the way we played as soon as Cunningham came in because he used to play attacking rugby but suddenly after 2 years in charge we started to play 5 drives and a kick and became a very boring team to watch
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| Quote ="atomic"Not for me, we had a pretty strong squad out v Batley and were taken to the cleaners. There was a poll on here on one point when Rowley left asking which is the next coach for Leigh.
I was shot down when Jukes got the job and told to give him 10 games. Paul Cooke arrived and suddenly Jukes is a hero. We got promoted. Cookey leaves and we end up with KC. The rest is history.
No point blaming one fella,when all including Purtill was involved.'"
Quite right Atomic, everything you put in this post I would gladly echo, Purtill is not the man for the job for me, in this weeks match report he keeps moaning about attitude and how bad it is, is tgat not part of a coaches job to be a good psychologist as well as a tactician? Well he has prompted my attitude to give Dewsbury and Featherstone a miss.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Quite right Atomic, everything you put in this post I would gladly echo, Purtill is not the man for the job for me, in this weeks match report he keeps moaning about attitude and how bad it is, is tgat not part of a coaches job to be a good psychologist as well as a tactician? Well he has prompted my attitude to give Dewsbury and Featherstone a miss.'"
Given our and the players current situation , I'm amazed we've done as well as we have over the last 6 games , maybe Kieron is just being too proffessional in expecting these players to be 100% , their and our future is essentially in ' flux ' ATM , ( like that word )
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Given our and the players current situation , I'm amazed we've done as well as we have over the last 6 games , maybe Kieron is just being too proffessional in expecting these players to be 100% , their and our future is essentially in ' flux ' ATM , ( like that word )'"
I was pleasantly surprised at how this group performed in their first three home games of the Shield. A hastily arranged group came together exceptionally well - many of them playing in strange positions beside fellow strangers. Since then, we have dropped off and, on Sunday, came up against a committed, skilful team, who beat us fairly convincingly - simple as that.
In reality, in my opinion, we have no 'right' to expect anything from this group of players. All I ask is that they give everything they can - and I think they have been doing that.
We will be travelling to Dewsbury and Featherstone - more in hope than expectation - as it's still 'our' team, whoever is wearing the shirt!
As for Kieron, well he was the guy who turned around that dreadful start, and came within a couple of points of getting us into second place - so surely, he must have something going for him?
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| INOUT Quote ="atomic"I won't undermine your opinion Charlie,but surely the first step is new staff.'"
Atomic , I respect all your posts as I do most on the Forum,fans input is vital as is every opinion, even if you disagree.Again it's been reported that the Staff don't know where there future lies,I presume you mean Coaching Staff?Hopefully that will be sorted by DB or the New Owners coming in.
My suggestions on playing Staff are just my own views,on what I feel we need, again though, I'm no coach,it's going to be a bit of a hard Winter at the LSV ,and I can't see us getting much joy out of our next 2 games, I really do hope the team prove me wrong.
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| Quote ="Alan"I was pleasantly surprised at how this group performed in their first three home games of the Shield. A hastily arranged group came together exceptionally well - many of them playing in strange positions beside fellow strangers. Since then, we have dropped off and, on Sunday, came up against a committed, skilful team, who beat us fairly convincingly - simple as that.
In reality, in my opinion, we have no 'right' to expect anything from this group of players. All I ask is that they give everything they can - and I think they have been doing that.
We will be travelling to Dewsbury and Featherstone - more in hope than expectation - as it's still 'our' team, whoever is wearing the shirt!
As for Kieron, well he was the guy who turned around that dreadful start, and came within a couple of points of getting us into second place - so surely, he must have something going for him?'"
Alan I think KP is a good Coach, as you pointed out he came extremely close to getting us in the top 4,the damage was done at the start of the season,every skilled man needs decent tools to do his job, KP had them during the season and the results were there however now the Quality of players in the squad is not up to that standard and the results are showing.
We beat Sheff twice,and Barrow quite well, but struggled to beat Rochdale,beat a poor Swinton side on the day,and lost at Fev who had 14 men,not exactly setting the house on fire, which is why I felt Batley would beat us.On Sunday we travel to Dews which is never an easy place to go, and I think we will struggle,the same as the Fev game in 2 weeks.
Success and failure are a fine line a kick , a try, even a Refs decision could have made our season so different, I still have nightmares of the Barrow away and Toulouse at home games,how did we lose them?
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| And not forgetting Toronto at Summer Bash.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Given our and the players current situation , I'm amazed we've done as well as we have over the last 6 games , maybe Kieron is just being too proffessional in expecting these players to be 100% , their and our future is essentially in =#FF0000' Flux ' ATM , ( like that word )'"
Add =#FF0000'Capacitor' & build it, we could time travel back to Huddesfield at home 2016 !
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| Would you give 110% if you might not get paid at work ?? . Just a thought.!
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| Quote ="Markypants"Would you give 110% if you might not get paid at work ?? . Just a thought.!'"
Effort isn't really the issue , don't ' put it in ' and you'll get hurt playing RL , quite simply we are disjointed , because we ARE disjointed , nobodies fault , just the way it is
A lot of that Batley team have been there quite a while , add in one of the best part time halfs ever in Brambani , and it was always going to be difficult
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| Quote ="Alan"I was pleasantly surprised at how this group performed in their first three home games of the Shield. A hastily arranged group came together exceptionally well - many of them playing in strange positions beside fellow strangers. Since then, we have dropped off and, on Sunday, came up against a committed, skilful team, who beat us fairly convincingly - simple as that.
In reality, in my opinion, we have no 'right' to expect anything from this group of players. All I ask is that they give everything they can - and I think they have been doing that.
We will be travelling to Dewsbury and Featherstone - more in hope than expectation - as it's still 'our' team, whoever is wearing the shirt!
As for Kieron, well he was the guy who turned around that dreadful start, and came within a couple of points of getting us into second place - so surely, he must have something going for him?'"
I concur
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle" Purtill is not the man for the job for me, in this weeks match report he keeps moaning about attitude and how bad it is, is tgat not part of a coaches job to be a good psychologist as well as a tactician? Well he has prompted my attitude to give Dewsbury and Featherstone a miss.'"
Do you think Purtill selected the likes of Acton and Ryan Bailey on merit? No he didn't but he had to field a team of 'players'
The thing I like about Keiron is that, unlike Jukes, he is no ones yes man, if you don't perform you are out and someone else gets the shirt. No favouritism, No cliques, No nonsense.
I like him and his style of management. Everyone knows where they stand. Ask Bergal. He was dropped during this shield campaign,for the exact same reason Acton was previously dropped in the season. Fair and square policy.
Coaches who take no absolutely no shi!te, can however be placed on a collision course with club owners. There's the worry.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Do you think Purtill selected the likes of Acton and Ryan Bailey on merit? No he didn't but he had to field a team of 'players'
The thing I like about Keiron is that, unlike Jukes, he is no ones yes man, if you don't perform you are out and someone else gets the shirt. No favouritism, No cliques, No nonsense.
I like him and his style of management. Everyone knows where they stand. Ask Bergal. He was dropped during this shield campaign,for the exact same reason Acton was previously dropped in the season. Fair and square policy.
Coaches who take no absolutely no shi!te, can however be placed on a collision course with club owners. There's the worry.'"
For what reason was Ridy dropped or AJ ? They are standard rules,break them and suffer the consequences. Nothing to do with being a yes man.
If your late for training,then your late for work. We really need to get away from this fictional stuff and start looking at reality.
I'm sick of hearing if we had won those first games we wouldn't have been in this position. Yet we had the strongest squad going into the Summer Bash, and blew that. Just remind me who the coach was?
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| Quote ="atomic"For what reason was Ridy dropped or AJ ? They are standard rules,break them and suffer the consequences. Nothing to do with being a yes man.
If your late for training,then your late for work. We really need to get away from this fictional stuff and start looking at reality.
I'm sick of hearing if we had won those first games we wouldn't have been in this position. Yet we had the strongest squad going into the Summer Bash, and blew that. Just remind me who the coach was?'"
Reality. Coach Purtill did not get Mata’utia binned at the bash.
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| Quote ="Centurino"Reality. Coach Purtill did not get Mata’utia binned at the bash.'"
I really do not think that affected the result- we were very much on the back foot by that point
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