Being honest Fred, there is none. We're stuck with it.



I wouldn't go so far to say the people gets the town it deserves but can you ever recall the natives standing up as one and asking their Councillors hard questions then getting results?

The grass is always greener but the billions pumped into Wigans redevelopment is largly private investment.

Now Leigh has huge potential becuase of its location and proximity to the Manc/Liverpool and west coast mainline, but for it to happen these Councillors need to get their faces out of the buffet and do something collective with the Council and NWDA, covering everything from transport links to commerce, industry, and housing. That generates income which sustains growth. What has happened has all been sporadic, bits here, bits there. Totally disjointed.

They've shown their incompetance for a generation, and for that reason alone I wouldn't want a Leigh Council because it would be bankrupt within 5 years.

Maybe their initial thoughts are just to measure the current feeling, create a bit of romance, and pride.

Then if they get enough people showing an interest then establish a more detailed plan of action, and maybe people with 'better' political awareness may offer them assistance.

I've just realised, if you wrote the first letter of each of the words Get Leigh Outta Wigan you would get your username.

What a coincidence, eh?!

derrr....

G.L.O.W.

Has he thought of taking it around Wigoon town - he should get a shed load of signatures from the likes of Orrell Lad



But would they count and how many can write their own name

Where do I sign?

we cant even get a chance to vote to get out of europe with this government despite the promise that was in their manifesto so what chance have we getting out of wigan they are nothing short of dictators

Getting out of the European Union would be a very bad mistake and even the Tories realise that.

We are part of Europe wether we like it or not and the consequences of withdrawal don,t bear thinking about irrespective of wether you agree or not.

The only party that would take us out would be the BNP and having that crazy bunch running the country doesn,t bear thinking about either.

trust me i'm sure that "every" wiganer would gladly sign it, i would even sign it twice

I'd expect you to sign it considering you're a Leyther.

The ability to sign it gave him away didnt it.

I don't understand this "I wont vote Tory" rubbish. Let's be honest they're all as bad as each other and all have the same bloody policies.

The only reason I don't want Labour in is because they've got a Scottish leader and they've already got their own parliament as have the Welsh. Oh and he's f'in useless and wasn't elected by the public.

and not voting Labour because they have a Scot as a leader is 'treasure' is it ?

.....and the Queen is german, this counrty is $hite.

According to research done by Tony Robinson the KING is living in Australia

and is a Plantagenat

You vote for the party and their policies not the leader anyway, the party vote themselves for who leads them!

Get Leigh out of Wigan? where do I sign?



I would love to see how you fare outside of Wigan control. At the moment you resemble Scousers with the levels of self pity. Nothing is ever the fault of the citizens of your town- it is easy to just blame Wigan. I genuinely hope that you get this off the ground and make a go of it.

You could even twin with Liverpool then? The self pity city and the self pity town eh?

p1e loving troll ?

wigan townhall anytime you like

What is wrong? The truth hurts? I think you just proved my point by the way.

For what it's worth, I am far from a troll. A long time reader of these forums who has so far managed not to bite at the Anti-Wigan self pity that spews out of some (but far from all) on here. I agree that some things are far from perfect with how the Council is set up for this side of the borough. But some of you use it as an excuse to hide from other reasons why Leigh is in the state it is.

Awaits more mad emoticons.............

Grow up ffs , you signed up on here to stir the old brown stuff .
So far away from being the truth that its no where close to it .
Leigh is in the state it's in because of Wigan Council END OF !

Everyone is entitled to their opinion , think you'll find your in a minority with your opinion though



Jog on now Mr Troll

Gaz- you have proved my point again. It's Wigan Council's fault blah, blah. Keep your eyes and ears closed and shout that mantra eh? It's easier than seeing the bigger picture.

Jog on? surely nobody over the age of 14 or who doesn't think they are in Green Street uses that phrase?

What would be different in Leigh if it hadn't have been in Wigan since 1974?

A sense of identity as a town. Spending our council tax money on signs with "Welcome to W1gan" with Leigh, Tyldesley, Atherton as 2nd fiddle. Hardly promoting the towns. We are at a stage now that W1gan is no longer just head office of the boroughs council but somehow we are thrown under umbrella of W1gan. So much so people that move to the area think they live in W1gan, with a Wigan postcode, and even the 01942 is stated as just W1gan


After walking around Leigh in 1986, and walk around Leigh now, its hardly awe inspiring progression in those 20 odd years.
W1gan was comparable to Leigh in 86 - nowt special as such for the need to visit there unless we had to go to Central Park. But now its transformed beyond recognision from them days.
I have no problem with a Borough Council because it makes sense, but just that. Not a sneaking us under the W1gan wing as the master plan for the city bid.