Maybe, but it was the opening 30 minutes at Wakefield that was woeful, nearly a point a minute conceded. 2nd half wasn't that bad for you.

Time will tell if lightening will strike twice... BUT... you've got to be in it to win it pal

And youve earned that right, all the best

I want Bradford to win, it will be proof that the system works and ensure it continues (with a tweak to the player registration date). It will also give a feeling of "look what we could have won" to those in charge at Leigh.

I agree reffy good luck Bradford hope you do it for all Championship clubs.

The system might this year but next year the SL clubs will be even better prepared. I can't see Wakey being as bad next year but they will still have enough to survive this year. The only chance is for a level playing field and turkeys dont vote for Christmas. SL clubs will look after their interests.

I see you don't mention the Salary Cap..Or parachute payments.

True but still hope you go up and wish you luck, it will give hope to all Championship clubs. Good luck Bradford go do it for the championship.

The problem in the second twenty was that Hock's head went, he chased about forty yards across the field to smash someone in a tackle because he had lost the ball, then he gave a couple more penalties away before being sin binned.

Rowley should have nipped this in the bud and took him off after the first incident to cool down, rather tahn just letting him get on with it.

Fell sorry for your fans who were excellent again today, even with nothing to cheer about they stayed loud and proud til the end.

See you in 12 months in the middle 8's

Indeed respect to the fans that travelled today, good to see Olly and Bob back at Widnes and i hope you make a better go of it next time. Probably see you again at the end of next season.

Very observant, if I had wanted to mention the above I would have done.

Then if Bradford win,how can the system have worked? ie: parachute payment.

There was no parachute payment. It was just enhanced prize money for bottom 2 in SL compared to top 2 in Championship....bit like the split this year. I was told that the term was invented by a journalist not RFL.

After already spending a lot of money on big signings this year and it not coming off in the way Leigh had hoped. Why not invest in the youth at the club? There are some talented young players at Leigh, but they will never play first team as Leigh are just interested in money and big names.

Reluctantly I no longer think we can afford to have Gareth Hock in our team. He seems to be blighted by the Referees (his own doing really) Leigh have given him a chance however, when that red mist comes down he loses all control and it invariably costs our team! I think Widnes must have scored two or three tries of his attempted 'offloads' he has done the same thing in previous games, at Halifax was a prime example. I'm sorry to admit this but we cannot afford to have him in our line up any longer!

Reluctantly I agree with you. The guy is a talented player, but is too easily rattled. It's bad enough coughing up possession by dropping (not just Gareth) /releasing the ball, but to concede 40/50 yards and six more tackles off penalties, (not just Gareth) is just unforgivable.

It's in his DNA! He has his personal problems, that's why you were able to sign him. You seem to have taken on more of the same for next season.

And me.

I have disagreed with kirkhall in the past but on this he is spot on.

I was not happy when we signed Hock but was prepared to give him a chance. Yes, he has produced some good stuff for us but IMO the debits outweigh the credits - get rid.

And now we've signed another expensive maverick in Rangi

Rangi can win you a game single handidly, somethimg we miss, great signing in my opinion

He can also sit on the sidelines, suspended, for lengthy periods.

I agree with that.

This was exactly why Marwan unloaded him onto Leigh. He was an expensive liability in more ways than one.

Well I rate Hock very highly.

Yesterday wasn't his best game but imo he is a great talent and I think we will see that next season.

I feel the same about Gaz, Ryan & Mickey they can and have, but Fui has been a good signing on different points not just for attracting opposition bodies when he has the ball therefore creating gaps but i would imagine profile and corporate wise he has been beneficial to the club.

Ste I agree about Fui, the guy does a lot of off field work and is probably as valuable off field as on it , he does seem to be more off field than on it at the moment, but it's his styLe, my mate Gary Pollitt from Atico sponsors him and is happy to do so.