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| The Watcher feels sorry for Fev, they have won the league twice on the bounce losing only 3 games & they have to wait another 3yrs to find out if they get promoted.
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| The Budgiezilla agrees.
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| Quote ="The Watcher"The Watcher feels sorry for Fev, they have won the league twice on the bounce losing only 3 games & they have to wait another 3yrs to find out if they get promoted.'"
Could have sworn Fax won last years GF
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| Fev won the league leaders trophy though
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| Scrapping P&R in football will NEVER happen. They only need to look at the state of RL outside SL to see what a catastrophic effect it would have on football. If it ever even came close to happening the fans would stop it somehow, plus the FA have the power to veto any decision made by the clubs.
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| So did Leigh back in the day we then blew it by losing two home times in the playoffs.(in reply to Fred's last post).
Squid and octuppi both have the ability to change colour as they are branches of the same animal species 'incidentally so can cameleons but they are reptiles aren't they ? And I don't think frogs can or are they amphibians ?
Any chance of finding out who our coach will be or players signed up for next season ?
I would like an update from the club as to what is going on although maybe this bit should be on another thread.
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| One crucial difference when drawing this comparison. The premiership promotes full time to.. Full time. Super league would be promoting to full time from.. Part time where the salary cap is about a sixth. Huge difference
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| Quote ="Dico"One crucial difference when drawing this comparison. The premiership promotes full time to.. Full time. Super league would be promoting to full time from.. Part time where the salary cap is about a sixth. Huge difference'"
If it was administered properly, and distributed fairly, there has been enough money sloshed around the top level of the game, in the SDL era, to have set up a second full-time division, and a part-time third tier of clubs run with full-time backroom staff!!
Money wasted on the expansionist dream (PSG, GatesHull/Shuddersfield, Crusaders, The "Magic" concept, the farce of the overseas quota, 'loyalty payments' to fend off the advances of RU clubs, etc)
Still - the vast improvements that SDL have managed to achieve will be all apparent come the end of the month.....as we watch this country's finest battle it out for third place in the Four Nations!!!
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| Quote ="Dico"One crucial difference when drawing this comparison. The premiership promotes full time to.. Full time. Super league would be promoting to full time from.. Part time where the salary cap is about a sixth. Huge difference'"
Huge difference alright the average wage bill is about 20 times higher in PL than Championship
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| Quote ="Dico"One crucial difference when drawing this comparison. The premiership promotes full time to.. Full time. Super league would be promoting to full time from.. Part time where the salary cap is about a sixth. Huge difference'"
Yes it is a huge difference , and that is a good thing ?
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| Clubs in football where full time before the Sky deal. They would be full time even if they didn't have a Sky deal - after a lot of going into administration first mind.
In RL every club bar one club struggling to balance the books (W1gan) was part time until the Sky deal allowed 14 clubs to go FT. RL without Sky deal would be mainly PT again.
Some football clubs (but is it media making things up again?) want to ring fence themselves in PL for purely selfish reasons that they invest 10's Millions each season and want to keep hold of that investment (if you want to call it that).
RL (even the ones that won't even open their eyes to the positives) can see that there is more to franchise in SL than just money.
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| Quote ="Leeeigh Leeeigh"Clubs in football where full time before the Sky deal. They would be full time even if they didn't have a Sky deal - after a lot of going into administration first mind.
In RL every club bar one club struggling to balance the books (W1gan) was part time until the Sky deal allowed 14 clubs to go FT. RL without Sky deal would be mainly PT again.
Some football clubs (but is it media making things up again?) want to ring fence themselves in PL for purely selfish reasons that they invest 10's Millions each season and want to keep hold of that investment (if you want to call it that).
RL (even the ones that won't even open their eyes to the positives) can see that =#FF0000there is more to franchise in SL than just money.'"
Yes its to allow expansion
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| That's why the 'expansion' is taking place in the Championship Leagues then
Great idea TBH as long as they compensate the Championship 1 clubs for all the long distance coach travel they will have to do.
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| Quote ="FredParky"That's why the 'expansion' is taking place in the Championship Leagues then
Great idea TBH as long as they compensate the Championship 1 clubs for all the long distance coach travel they will have to do.'"
Travel costs to be covered / assisted with , apparently
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| Quote ="Starbug"Travel costs to be covered / assisted with , apparently'"
Suppose that's cheaper than the Tolouse experiment.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"Suppose that's cheaper than the Tolouse experiment.'"
But we'll have the ' Anglo French Tourno ' to make up for that , I wonder who'll end up with Toulouse ?
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Huge difference alright the average wage bill is about 20 times higher in PL than Championship'"
The football championship? No it isnt. Dont let the silly wages touted round clubs like city and utd cloud your judgment. QPR et al arent paying much more in the PL than they were in the Championship and it absolutely isnt 6 times
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| Quote ="Dico"The football championship? No it isnt. Dont let the silly wages touted round clubs like city and utd cloud your judgment. QPR et al arent paying much more in the PL than they were in the Championship and it absolutely isnt 6 times'"
Wouldn't be so sure of that considering the wage cuts that Blackpool players had to take after relegation.
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| It wasn't 84% per player, i'll tell you that for free.
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| Quote ="Dico"It wasn't 84% per player, i'll tell you that for free.'"
Only because Blackpool were in a sound financial position prior to promotion and refused to offer the increase in wages that the players originally wanted.
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| If you say so i'll take your word for it. So do you think QPR, Swansea, Sunderland and others are paying 6 times what they were in the Championship? I dont think they are tbh. Besides its different sports, the comparison was silly in the first place, its not just players wages its the fact that Chp RL clubs dont have most of the facilities, technology, academies in place to make the jump up and fight it out the following year.
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| £55 for a ticket at QPR - well to City fans anyway. Absolutely disgraceful IMO. Its QPR for goodness sake, not Chelski. I'd like to know how much their home fans pay in comparison. Wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't much difference tho.
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| Quote ="Dico"If you say so i'll take your word for it. So do you think QPR, Swansea, Sunderland and others are paying 6 times what they were in the Championship? I dont think they are tbh. Besides its different sports, the comparison was silly in the first place, its not just players wages its the fact that Chp RL clubs dont have most of the facilities, technology, academies in place to make the jump up and fight it out the following year.'"
Facilities , Technology , academies ? , WTF , maybe that's why Warrington train at the LSV half the time , you don't half talk some bollox
It's RL , not rocket surgery
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| Quote ="Dico"If you say so i'll take your word for it. So do you think QPR, Swansea, Sunderland and others are paying 6 times what they were in the Championship? I dont think they are tbh. Besides its different sports, the comparison was silly in the first place, its not just players wages its the fact that Chp RL clubs dont have most of the facilities, technology, academies in place to make the jump up and fight it out the following year.'"
QPR are paying 70k a week to Barton and SWP for starters, Sunderland pay Brown O Shea not a penny less than 50k. Bolton Wanderers spend £40m a year on wages!!
PL wages vs Championship is no comparison,
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| Quote ="Starbug"Facilities , Technology , academies ? , WTF , maybe that's why Warrington train at the LSV half the time , you don't half talk some bollox
It's RL , not rocket surgery'"
Leigh are a decent Chp club so we'll leave them out of this one but lets take Featherstone, everyones favourite. The ground doesnt hold 7000, they could not be in SL and possibly run a profitable team. Yes technology, sports science, doctors, the Wire have a professional sports psychiatric personell with dedicated coaches and professionals in different areas, the championship clubs do not. Have you seen the facilities at most SL clubs? Where do someone like Featherstone train? Let me guess 2 sessions a week and then 3 weights sessions in a DW gym Most Championship clubs do not even provide appropriate sports nutrition to players they have to pay for it themselves. Where is Featherstones U20s, u18s and so on and so forth? They scratch together some teams but if they were the standard required they would play in the Valvoline cup as Widnes did.
The fact is you're an old man who knows very little about the game in the modern era so don't try and do your smokey deflect with me son. Jog on.
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