Yes , but who exactly are you suggesting has done ' wrong ' here ?

No idea,all I know is players sign contracts[same as any employee leigh[employer don't paid them what they are owed


Any other employment and people walk out after sueing for breach of contract

Same rules apply in rugby as the real world

No problem , let the players sue

Except who will they sue ?

Will it result in them getting their money ?

So stop ignoring the question , who's fault is it ?

FOOKED if I know

is that clear enough!!!!!!!!!!


Can't blame the players for leaving

Has anyone officially left that we didn't already know about? At least Fax have finished (bar one) their recruitment with KH saying they are almost up to the salary cap already.

So you are complaining about stuff you haven't a clue about

If the players sue the club , the club folds , we start next season with a massive points deduction or possibly even relegation right now , they still wouldn't get their money

Arthur gave out the contracts , his business took a massive hit financially by a company going bust on him , he has had to shut his companies with many people losing their jobs , these being their only jobs and their only forms of income

It hasn't been done on purpose , it is nobodies fault , the players either understand this or they don't , if they don't then they are thicker than I thought , it's tough , end of , they either decide to look elsewhere or they don't , it's a free world , nobody is holding a gun to their heads

See Swinton have signed Gorski & Meekin, and have 15 other players for next season. www.cbsport.org/2011/10/watson-g ... r-swinton/

See Swinton have signed Gorski & Meekin, and have 15 other players for next season. www.cbsport.org/2011/10/watson-g ... r-swinton/

Complaining? just pointing out how can people expect players to stay if they have been shafted by leigh for not paying there wages.

And how on earth do they convince new players to sign contracts which the club could not honour last time

People keep saying how can swinton sign players on less fans than us,well thats the million dollar question which for some unknown reason Leigh cannot attract people to invest in the club,I'm not having it whoever is in charge of swinton and to be honest can't be d to find out who it is,can afford to fund them and finds funding a team like swinton the better option than funding leigh??? will get a better return from swinton than leigh,can actually do something with a club playing miles from there natural home?

Perhaps its a back door approach to finally take over at leigh on the cheap.

Leigh implode mid season swinton bloke says oooh we may as well call ourselves leigh hedgehogs[or some other daft name hey presdo he or she folds swinton and they are the leigh brand now.

All testicles I suppose but gateshead became hull and stranger things do and will happen in this wonderful world of rl

aye, Barrow soon found '2 new directors'.......
Not us, we need DONATIONS.

We can't expect anything of the players other than to do whatever they feel is best for themselves

John Kidd is the Chairman of Swinton , he's one of the nicest blokes you could care to meet , he isn't massively rich , and he only has Swinton and returning Swinton to Swinton as an aim , he has no interest in any other club , how he does it , well I don't know , but I hope he is successful

hardly 'New' directors though are they?

Just remember that although things may not be coming from the club it doesn't mean nothing is happening, rather these things take time. Players are not the only ones affected.

There are Championship briefings involving board members of each club currently taking place and there is set to be an announcement on the future of the Championships next week too.. A press briefing on that is out in due course.

Couple of things

Hopefully the new championship will guarantee more than 13 fixtures at home in 2012. Which business only opens 13 weeks a year ?? What are you supposed to do the other 39 weeks?

Secondly have the club really knocked on every businessmans door to seek investment or are we hell bent on running the club as a business with fans investment. If it's the latter welcome to the world of Rochdale, no ambition to mix it with the elite.

1st thing is out of our control

2 nd thing , which businesses are these ?

Quote ="Budgiezilla"See Swinton have signed Gorski & Meekin, and have 15 other players for next season. www.cbsport.org/2011/10/watson-g ... r-swinton/'" 9 of our ex players already I see, Swinleigh

Quote ="Budgiezilla"See Swinton have signed Gorski & Meekin, and have 15 other players for next season. www.cbsport.org/2011/10/watson-g ... r-swinton/'" 9 of our ex players already I see, Swinleigh

Despite all these players leaving, look on the bright side we could be Barrow. Hopefully we get some of there better players with a couple of Widnes rejects and form a competitive squad for next season?

We love you Swinleigh we do as quite a ring to it

Well my point is that prior to AT coming on board, there was an open fans meeting held in the MM Bar during October 2006, discussing a financial deficit and the clubs sorry state of affairs. We had no coach, no team, no CEO. We were all encouraged to help the club out by buying a season ticket, joining the lottery and increasing our LISA contributions as otherwise the future was looking very bleak, simply put.

The meeting was chaired from the clubs perspective by Mr Coffey and Mr Freer.

Roll on to October 2011, and what have the club achieved under the present incumbernts? We all know the answer....

So what are the barriers to finding new 'investment'?

I do wonder why Mr Ainscough was interested enough to come along to 'a few meetings' as Mr Freer informed us at the fans forum he did, but then ultimately decided that 'investing' into Leigh RL is not suitable for his circumstances right now.

So where has been proven Adam s a Swinton player|

will result in an increase in support

It doesn't , we are a ' luxury item ' , people dont ' Have ' to buy us , we are not a loaf of bread or a tin of beans

So why do people spend stupid amounts of money buying things they dont need ? they are convinced by advertising/marketing/sampling that they want it

We havent done any ' marketing/advertising/sampling for years , and until we do we will continue to struggle , as I put on this or another thread , Castleford are the model we need to emulate , they are a town of similar size to ourselves with a history of similar industry , they have built up a ' Brand ' that their population have bought in to , thats why they are where they are , and why we are where we are

I agree. I have been advocating the necessity to invest in our brand equity for years.

My avatar is a case in point. Irn-Bru is the number one grocery brand in Scotland.

Why do you think they spend £millions advertising all over Scotland every year ?

The answer is not only to remain number one grocery brand but to also remain as number one selling soft drink year on year in an extremely competitive market.

What's Irn-Bru? I've never heard of it.

Quite possibly the last actual advertising we did was in 2005/6 when I converted one of my trailers to take signage and I had Lee Hansen dragging it around Leigh/Atherton/Tldesley in one of my vans

Our performance with regards ' marketing ' ourselves has been pathetic for , well as long as we have been a RL club

But as I have pointed out in the past , that part of a sports business isn't ' Sexy ' , is it ?

Its made in Scotland from Giirrrrrders

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I rest my case

, the power of advertising