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| The £15K given so easily by LISA with no questions asked to Trevor Barton less than 2 months ago would now come in very handy to pay the players!
Where has the money gone?
I think Trevor Barton has a lot of explaing to do, he said the money would last at least 2 months, plus the club has had additional revenues since then such as the wigan game etc.
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"The £15K given so easily by LISA with no questions asked to Trevor Barton less than 2 months ago would now come in very handy to pay the players!
Where has the money gone?
I think Trevor Barton has a lot of explaing to do, he said the money would last at least 2 months, plus the club has had additional revenues since then such as the wigan game etc.'"
These questions have already been asked in the 4th post on this Topic .
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I can't take this every other year.'"
I'm with you jonny, this is turning into a farce. Must be obvious to everybody that a change of direction is required and NOW!!!
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| Where's the money gone? It's gone on wages and costs.
£15k doesn't touch the sides when the wages bill is double that every month. Then there's the running costs.
Pure and simple. There hasn't been enough coming in to cover what's going out.
Get behind the lads today. They need a lift and hats off to every single one of them.
Together we can get out of it. Divided we fall.
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| Quote ="maurice"If any of you didn't realise what we have is failing badly then this is the proof, its our club not the clueless bunch running it .
Can I suggest that instead of buying a pint at the ground you tip into a bucket and we give it directly to the players, can LISA help here?
We spend time and energy on Centurions TV knowing we need cash - this is typical of us and we must get a clear out. If admin is the only way then that's what must happen to ensure we can get the fans/business partnership that will guarantee transparency and create a real community club that can prosper.'"
I have said this before and make no apologies for saying it again LEIGH CENTURIONS TV HAS NOT COST THE CLUB ONE PENNY TO SET UP AND RUN AND EVERY PENNY EARNED FROM IT WILL GO INTO THE CLUB NOT TO ANY OF US, it does make one wonder why I have spent a considerable sum of money to get this idea off the ground to try and make some funds for the club only for people like you Maurice to have a cheap go. If anyone wants my resignation in your clear out it will be on the ceo's desk the day after. In fact after that little pop it may well be on there tomorrow why should I spend as much time and trouble assisting a club with fans such as you. Maybe people who have set up sponsorship deals in the past and at the last minute failed to deliver should have a good look at themselves first.
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| Here's the million dollar question, How are you going to sort it ?
Interested to know because I have a feeling the administrator is going to be calling very soon along with HMRC......... and after all the promises, praise, fantastic commercial decisions supported with good solid budgeting by the BOD how can this happen?
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The few loyal supporters left will be expected, not asked to dig even deeper into their pockets!!!!!
Sorry its not enough its time to get real, completely restructure like any sensible business would do in this postion. Take it back to the bare minimum and rebuild with a proper thought out strategic plan for the next 3-5 years if Leigh RLFC has any chance of a future never mind surviving!
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| Like Alexs Dad has said, 15k doesnt touch the sides especially if it was also covering a deficit of moneys already spent. If this is true regarding the non payment of players, then surely this needs to be the straw that breaks the camels back with regards to the future of the club. Some very important decisions need to be taken with regards to the short and long term future of the club. Its times like this when everybody needs to be pulling in the same direction and working together to secure the future of this great club!
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| I'll be getting behind the lads but the way this club is run is a joke. This will inevitably lead to fans including myself pishing money down the drain trying to pull our club out of the mire again
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| Quote ="maurice"Remember LISA was given a share for every £20k, and a board position so surely they know? (Dick this is not a dig at you/LISA)
or did the share never happen and information flow is selective?
CHANGE IS NEEDED, otherwise its groundhog day every 2 years'"
Your spot on and we do need a change but need to see what happens next with the current BOD.
I'd recommend calm and patience (I know it's easier said than done) while the correct channels and procedures are now followed.
Fans get behind these lads today in numbers your going to be needed more than ever going forwards be ready for the fight when the time is right.
I've spoken to the Rob Parker via text today and the lads are focused and want to go out and play for us the fans and the shirt we need to sing louder than ever and show them how much we care.
No prawn sarnies today for me north stand and going home with a sore throat.
Let's stick together leythers the boys need us.
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| Well, even though i have my moments bagging players i think are not up to championship level, EVERY player who laces up the boots, and makes the sacrifices should be paid, no matter what...that should be the first bill settled, no question.
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| Quote ="leyther_geezer"I'll be getting behind the lads but the way this club is run is a joke. This will inevitably lead to fans including myself pishing money down the drain trying to pull our club out of the mire again
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It won't it has to and will change.
Money can't go into propping up historic debt forever time for new people, new Ideas and a proper structured professional club.
Be patient everyone.
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| Quote ="cryer64"If the players are not paid do they automatically become free agents?'"
I think so, due to breach of contract on the club's part, but I'm not 100% sure. They definitely become free agents if/when the club goes in to administration.
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| Quote ="rob_a"I think so, due to breach of contract on the club's part, but I'm not 100% sure. They definitely become free agents if/when the club goes in to administration.'"
I'm not sure of the contractual issues but in essence any player who manges to get a contract elsewhere or chooses to leave would be doing the club a favour wouldn't they?
Surely major costs need to be slashed now and is there any other avenue than players wages?
I think this was always on the cards the begging bowl can only go round so many times, it may be the catalyst to break from the old and start a fresh with the right people and major fan involvement hopefully.
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| Maybe the "partner" club can bail 'em out!
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| Quote ="FredParky"PNE is Ryans uncle'"
oh I see, cheers Fred.
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| Quote ="FredParky"I have said this before and make no apologies for saying it again LEIGH CENTURIONS TV HAS NOT COST THE CLUB ONE PENNY TO SET UP AND RUN AND EVERY PENNY EARNED FROM IT WILL GO INTO THE CLUB NOT TO ANY OF US, it does make one wonder why I have spent a considerable sum of money to get this idea off the ground to try and make some funds for the club only for people like you Maurice to have a cheap go. If anyone wants my resignation in your clear out it will be on the ceo's desk the day after. In fact after that little pop it may well be on there tomorrow why should I spend as much time and trouble assisting a club with fans such as you. Maybe people who have set up sponsorship deals in the past and at the last minute failed to deliver should have a good look at themselves first.'"
Fred its not a dig at you or anyone associated with CTV but it has cost money, money from sponsors/fans that could have gone elsewhere but more importantly they must have known the bomb was coming to the end of its fuse and all efforts should have been focussed there, did they tell you as you were putting money and effort into it what was about to happen?? Also I still have nightmares about somebody announcing something at a public forum that wasn't sealed indeed the interested party had not even visited the club and linking me with it, but that has become par for the course imo - say owt to appease policy
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| This is depressing, what happened to making the club self sufficient after Arthur stepped down?
I realise attendances are down on what was predicted but I think the predicted figures where badly thought out given the fact prices where going up and attendances had fallen away a little towards the end of last season. Anyone with an ounce of business sense knows that you leave yourself some leeway when budgeting but it seems at Leigh we just don't bother.
I couldn't make the Batley game today but I'll always support my club when and how I can that's a given. I wasn't in favour if the move from HP to begin with and as time goes on it looks like the loss of revenue streams we had there is beginning to cost us big time. HP could have been rennovated bit by bit with grants etc. It does make me wonder how much we're paying LSV to be their main tennant.
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| Someone also mentioned the money from the Wigan game. I reckon we should have got between £40-50k for that game if it was a 50-50 split so I can't understand why the players can't be paid. Come on Leigh sort it out ffs, we can't carry on like this.
When will the RFL realise that they're choking the life out of the game below SL as well with nothing to play for every season, thats one reason why they crowds are dwindling.
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| Quote ="The Kevster!"
I wasn't in favour if the move from HP to begin with and as time goes on it looks like the loss of revenue streams we had there is beginning to cost us big time. HP could have been rennovated bit by bit with grants etc. It does make me wonder how much we're paying LSV to be their main tennant.'"
Once again, the club was given no option but to sign up to the LSV, the council threatened to place a safety certificate on HP for a capacity of 1,000
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| Quote ="The Kevster!"Someone also mentioned the money from the Wigan game. I reckon we should have got between £40-50k for that game if it was a 50-50 split so I can't understand why the players can't be paid. Come on Leigh sort it out ffs, we can't carry on like this.
When will the RFL realise that they're choking the life out of the game below SL as well with nothing to play for every season, thats one reason why they crowds are dwindling.'"
Your maths are out by 50%
And the structure of the sport has been set for 5/6 years now, it should have no bearing on budgets set by clubs, we know what the situation is
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"Think your wrong steve . Leigh only signed the lease after they moved from Hilton park . Hilton park was not owned by Leigh'"
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| @_MarkJTaylor
Rowley: Players have received no match payments since the Barrow game - they were told yesterday they wouldn't be paid #leighrl
Rowley: Players decided to play vs Batley despite a crisis meeting with directors on Sat when they were told they wouldn't be paid #leighrl
Rowley: Day to day trying to continue in difficult circumstances, players proud to play for #leighrl
Rowley: Coaching and playing staff likely to bear brunt of cash flow issues at #leighrl
Hope everyone can put all the bickering and sly remarks aside, unite as a TOWN and support the club.
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| 1 Told they have been paid
2 Don't think cup money has come in yet.
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| LISA £15000+ WIGAN £30000 + BATLEY GATE (- season tickets) £10000.
Where does it go? LSV?
We'd better play at Leigh Miners - nice and cosy with a 1000+ in!
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