I have been watching Leigh since 1949 and obviously have seen good times and bad times, but I love Rugby League and watching Rugby League can somebody tell me if I stop watching Leigh who then can I watch, the answer is of course no-one, were having some bad times but do not despair we will have good times again keep the faith and all will be well again.

Leyther mat..who said anything about applauding the team.some of the abuse screamed at them yesterday was a disgrace,I agree that we are in more s"it than a faggots finger ,but this is OUR team.

Depends what you define as 'abuse' - personally, I'll hold my hands up and shouted that they were a set of useless barstewards after Smith did his John Wilshere turnstile impression in the first half, and booed them off at the end.

Didn't hear anything particularly bad, though mentally, if not physically. speaking I was halfway down Atherleigh Way by the time the players (not a team by any stretch at the minute) thought they'd try and get some applause from the North Stand.

It is our side though, you're right, and I'll be going to Whitehaven with blind optimism that will undoubtedly fade quickly within 5 minutes of kick off, but I'll still be going up there in the hope of someone managing a win (we did it with a poor side in 2007, so you never know).

But we don't get that watching leigh at the moment

Yet again people pay their money and can do what they like. Maybe was a disgrace but the fans were very upset and was maybe heat of the moment? I myself did shout abuse as they seem to be taking the P!ss out off the fans at the moment

IMO as a fan you pay your money to be entertained, you dont get the option of a refund if it is crap so what else are you meant to do????? Clap them off if they are good, average or poor, no you dont beacause the players will keep doing what they do knowing no difference but by booing or tell them they are crap it might hopefully strike a nerve but unfortunately excluding a couple of them the rest of this team arent bothered as long as they get there pay at the end of the month.

I have watched Saints games where they have been booed for losing because they are expected to win the problem at Leigh is people are beginning to realise [some sooner than others that Leigh are in grave danger for the drop and added Joey Williams to the team might not be enough.

It wont be enough! he will need runners to set a play and we never seem to have any.

Too many posts on here to reply to them all but

Does any of the people who booed and shouted insults to the players seriously think that the players did not already know how bad things have become

Put yourself in their shoes just for a minute , you have just been humiliated on the pitch for the second time in a week , what is going to make you more determined to turn things round

Abuse or applause ?

I applauded because no matter what anybody on here says they did not lack effort , you cannot play the game without effort , you will get hurt

Skill , organisation and execution was lacking , but all the abuse in the world will not encourage any sportsman to change that

I dont support this player or that , I support ' the shirt ' and any and all that wear it

Support can only go so far - if you cock up in any job in the world then you will get stick from your employers, and if you do well then you will be praised by your employers; in sporting terms, you are employed by the fans.

And I know you'll disagree, but I think there were one or two players out there yesterday who didn't play at maximum effort; the proof is in the missed tackles because of a lazy technique, players not supporting any breaks, nor chasing down any opposition breaks.

Those things are factors in the lack of effort, undoubtedly, but they're causes rather than the eventual result.

You always speak crap and you haven't let us down again. Well done Starbug!!!!

I'm all for people paying their money and having their say.

Personally I prefer to just walk away after the game rather than have a right go at the players as they should know how poor they've performed anyway.

That said I'm not against people voicing their opinion if they've paid to get in.

I take that as a compliment , coming from such an expert as yourself

Got to agree with your point Steve - supporting them is the essential option. Sure, we all felt let down yesterday (and on other occasions this season) and I guess it's anyone's right to react in any way they want. Personally, I won't boo any player, however badly he performs - they still all get my respect for stepping over the touchline, onto the pitch. Also, some positive support could/should work wonders for them - the 'extra' player you hear talked about?

Similarly, it's anyone's right to vote with his/her feet, and stay away. But logically, that will harm the Club. Less people through the turnstiles = less revenue = less options to build a decent squad. However much we would like to spend on a team, we are restricted by the Salary Cap - which is income-based, and we aren't getting much income at the moment, on crowds of less than 2,000 and hardly any home matches!

So, my advice would be to grit our teeth, and get behind the team, then maybe we could be the catalyst that banished the prospect of relegation.

But hey, it's a free country, so you are all entitled to your choice.

We do need a rallying of some description as on & off the pitch this club is in a right mess.
From one of the leading lights to relegation dog fights.

Changes MUST be made NOW to avoid the oblivion that will be Championship 1.
The club need to start with loanee players or if they are completley skint come out and say it, a bit of fan / club "bonding" (to use Left wing PC talk) is seriously needed to get this club out the dumps and on the up.

As a rugby club without fans your nothing , as a fan without a rugby club your lost.

Time for change, time for a rolling up of sleeves from everyone at the club and its supporters, it starts at the top so over to you Alan , Arthur etc - what are you going to do to get us out of this mess and rally support

I hope you mean 'Allan', and not yours truly?!

for me and the wife watching leigh on sundays was a full day out for us yes im going back to turzes days (been a supporter long before that but the wife wasnt so converted her from pies to leigh

) it was a very enjoyable day you met your friends before the match in a pub (before they started to close)talked about what was going to happen in the game who was playing or not .then have the walk from the pub down to hilton park exited in not knowing whats on offer, you get in and go to your usual place where other people go so you feel you at a place with friends supporters and familiar faces.you shout for the usual FORWARD, OFF SIDE
half time comes you stream towards the bar with friends and opposition supporters talking and having a banter with them while queing up for a pint and talking to opposing fans and having a laugh finally you get served but miss the kick off and usually a try but hey part of the fun,go back and watch the game with a beer. win lose fine but you knew you go back to the micky martins bar for a coaches view and a couple of players too which makes you feel better.you look around and see kids getting autographs off there heros, we talk to players and shake there hand either congratulations or comiserations.there is a comedian on or dj getting the party going and a kareoke going on people are having fun and its just not about the game its part of a days nite out.what happened since they stopped the coach and players talking stopped the entertainment and now i and the wife goto lsv watch a game go home no atmosphere no banter nothing we are looking into investing into a more full days entertainment than the 2 hours leigh give us because its so impersonal and sterile going to watch leigh and i cant see it getting any better (too me and the wife it didnt matter if we won or not the complete day is what mattered if we did win then thats bragging bonus for us)but year after year ive been buying season tickets but every year its getting worse now at the lsv its totally gone for us it feels like a chore going to watch leigh because i have paid for it


where did it all go wrong
where has the family (this is my team)atmosphere gone

Get behind the team/club now as its needed more than ever........... spitting the dummy out and saying that you aint going watching the lads again is not the answer - we are playing crap at the mo but we will come back stronger IMO.

The prob with a lot of people in Leigh is thats its too easy to walk away and sit in the pubs sl***ing the club off instead of getting behind the lads (I see this in my local all the time - talking about 71 and all that), this is 2009.... not 71 - those days are gone so accept it. Its simple maths at the end of the day - more people through the turnstiles = more cash for better players, so saying that you aint watching Leigh again is a bit stupid IMO.

If you want a successfull Leigh playing in SL one day get behind the team and try and bring a few mates with you too boost the crowd.

Are you Phil Coffey?





I'll tell you what, there is no way I would bring / recommend anyone to watch us at the moment because I am so embarassed with what we have to offer. I would actually do the opposite and advise them to stay away until things get better. Some may say that is the wrong way to do things but let's be honest, do you honestly think a potential new fan would ever return after watching this load of cr@p. It would seriously do more harm than good to 'bring a friend' at the moment.

While agreeing with most of the above this bit I dont think is ever really what we need

And my original post was

" Now is the time for all GOOD men to come to the aid of the party "

Those that sit in the pub or all too easily find an excuse are not the ' Good ' , they are the lost , never to return

Not what we need I know but my view is that if I had brought any old/new fans to a recent game they would have ridiculed us and deffinately not returned for a long while - performances like Sundays do alot of long term damage. I would rather them hang on until (hopefully) we start playing rugby then bring them and maybe they will get hooked?

I did, I brought 3 on Sunday (and paid for their tickets) ho hum. Don't think they'll be returning anytime soon as its definitely not worth travelling from Stoke to be treated to that.

Whenever I ve brought someone we have got battered, sods law.

Thats my sentiments exactly - I cannot ever remember booing a player or the team (except TKL for many a good reason) although my son begs to differ and is sure he has heard me. I do occasionally shout at a player during the game in a none aggressive manner and do not resort to insults if he is constantly under performing, yet I am happy to heap the praise when it is deserved.

I was quiet and down on Sunday, I think at times it was the disbelieve, however, you will all be happy to now know that I am okay again.