If they was starting now they would have.
Sure I've read Ferguson is a big fan of it (certainly he's done speeches to various coaching courses) so if it was in then I'm certain he'd have done them.

If the sport places importance on them (and from a legal point I can see the reasoning in this day and age) then we should be employing people who have them IMO.

vendetta seems a bit strong tipster.he wasnt a success as coach.
he worked with Basil who is said to have had an input into the next choice so, presumably, he didnt reccommend him.
he apparently has a 2,3 or 4 year contract, dependant on which post you read on here, at a time we are making people redundant ,or short paying them.
we are told some applicants for the job withdrew when they heard what money was on offer.does that mean we are over committed on the money we are paying the existing coaching staff, cant afford to pay them off and that has cost us the coach we really wanted.
This is nothing personal against anyone its just another one of those debatable areas within the club that leads to rumour, frustration and debate.
not having a manager/coach in place now is not ideal lets hope the applications to ukba are in order and we move on

paul cullen has coaching badges, doesnt mean hes a good coach

Would you rather fly on a plane thats been maintained by a qualified mechanic who has done all the studying on how to repair things, looked at problem solving and is confident in what he does because he knows he had to work hard to get his Mechanic certificate and its recognised worldwide.

Or would you rather fly on a plane thats maintained by a ex captain who is now a mechanic after retireing, no qualifications as didn't have the time to do the course, but says he knows the aircraft inside out as he flew them for years

I find it hard to believe that Blackmoor has no coaching qualifications as he was voted Coach of the year in NZ in 2010 and coached the Auckland Vulcans to the Grand Final of the NSW cup (one of the leagues below (and a feeder league to) the NRL).

He's never been coach he was caretaker after a disastrous reign under Kelly. Incidentally last coach Basil picked was Darren Shaw

It would seem that the English RFL requires more advanced coaching 'badges' than Australia and New Zealand. Hence our domination of those two nations, at international level, this past 20 years!

Would YOU rather fly in a plane piloted by a mechanic who knows how it works , or a pilot who's been flying planes for years ?

why, was he a bad coach (apart from 'talking weird' in post match interviews) Think Whitehaven fans would disagree.

Definately had his best years at haven.

I'd take the mechanic everyday.
A retired pilot or a rookie may think he's good, might have been good even, but the reality is he might not be as good as he thinks he is nowadays as things change by the hour let alone by the day , its easy to get out of touch.
The mechanic will be working to structures , have a pilots licence and know about the overall picture and the ins and out of the Aircraft not just how to fly / taxi it so if he thinks he has no idea he has a reference or a group of people to bounce ideas off.

Nobody said he had a pilots licence , he's a mechanic



And who mentioned a ' retired ' pilot



I'd not want the pilot fixing the plane , but I'd damn sure not want to mechanic flying it

From coaching 17 men to flying a plane,what a smashing thread drift.

Jenky started it

Will it be boats or trains next.?.

Well play nice now.

I remember Murph saying that once he got summoned to do a coaching badge....about the late 80's.





Of course he did it and said the only thing it taught him after sitting though a couple of sessions (being taught by someone who'd never actually coached a real team) was that it made him realise why there were no decent coaches any more.

He always said you can't teach someone how to coach, you can only teach them the rules, and no matter how many badges or levels you have if you haven't got 'it' then you're just wasting your time. His hero was (and still is) Jim Sullivan and said he learned more about coaching from him than he could have learned in a thousand years in a classroom.

So is Murph a pilot , or a mechanic ?

I told you to play nice, or straight to bed without any supper.

Just wondering if he has the light tender controlling touch of a pilot , or just gets a big tool in to sort things out

He's not only the pilot and the mechanic but the engineer and designer too.

We will leave it at that then.

Mr Rolls and mr royce rolled into one.

You mean Kevin Ashcroft?

Of course I did , whatever else could I have meant