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| Quote ="Cokey"You do realise that you will be enjoying the same pleasure at the end of 2022
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Derek I think ourselves , Salford , Wakey , Hudds , Hull KR , and the 2 possible oromotedClubs if it happens all realise the extreme mountain they will have to climb to get into the proposed top 10.
My question is this season we started on a lower amount of Central Funding ,because we where a new team to SL , next season we won’t be a new team , does this mean we will on the same footing asSalford , Hudds ,and Wakey ?And will the 2 promoted teams be on a less amount as we were ?
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Again I do realise what situation we will be in , if we don’t go down ,and it could be just giving us a reprieve,with 4 going down out of 14 it will be extremely difficult and again I agree we will need a new team , we will need a virtual new team anyway ,as most are leaving at the end of this season .
And to survive we will need to recruit quality in abundance , I’m sure Derek knows this as well though ,as for Joel Tomkins ?Im hoping the first of a few quality players to arrive , you have to start somewhere , we have now signed him ,2 Aussies , Joe Mellor , I’m hoping Brierley and James Bell sign again ,maybe Sidlow ,the rest it will up to the Coach , again I’m not sure if we will get one but apparently Derek already has once in mind and is just waiting to announce him .
I’m hopeful of our future , hopeful being the word , but I’m also a realist IF we want to become a top 10 side then we need drastic measures in recruitment , or we are just marking time till we go down again .'"
I’m sure Derek Beaumont is well aware of what is needed. If his past record is anything to go by he has little idea of how to bring it about. His leadership over the past few seasons has left a lot to be desired. Being a passionate fan is not enough and he has proved it.
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| Gone off topic.
As Sky pointed out was not a try but not for the reason thought on the ground.The most blatant inconsistency of the ref never mind any card issue
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"
Question on the final disallowed try question.
Liam Hood is clearly offside when the kick goes up
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That is why the try was disallowed.
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| Sorry, in my annoyance did not make myself clear yes Hood was off side. I was referring to kr try when kr man was within 10 yards of our man fielding kick so penalty to us,probably not a knock as thought on the ground, but close, deffo no try.
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| Usually you hear the shout from the ref telling the players offside to stay back. For me the video ref is concentrating on the knock on, and forgets the rules of the game with Crooks onside.
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| Quote ="reffy"That is why the try was disallowed.'"
Thanks Reffy, so the HKR try should have been disallowed for the same reason.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"What has age got to do with it? He is a Leigh player the same as the other 16. Players don’t go into a tackle thinking I’ll take this easy as he’s only a young kid. Kendall was inconsistent Sidlow should have been in the bin for head high on Simms. The rovers head highs were no worse and both resulted in sin bins. Placed 75 minutes with 16 players 18 minutes with someone in the bin, 2 of which reduced us to 11 and you still could not win.'"
You've spent a bit more than us on your squad, good luck in the Grand Final. p.s 11 men for 2 minutes, you drama queen.
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"Thanks Reffy, so the HKR try should have been disallowed for the same reason.
Very frustrating.'"
Crooks put them all onside, the ref sends it up to check the knock on. One he awards on field as a try after consultation with his touch judges, no call from the ref to any player to stay onside after Lawler kicks. Hoods was straight forward offside. The ref for me was correct in both decisions. You can’t be judging if someone is encroaching 10m when the fullback just played them all onside.
It got sent up as a try.
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| Quote ="atomic"Crooks put them all onside, the ref sends it up to check the knock on. One he awards on field as a try after consultation with his touch judges, no call from the ref to any player to stay onside after Lawler kicks. Hoods was straight forward offside. The ref for me was correct in both decisions. You can’t be judging if someone is encroaching 10m when the fullback just played them all onside.
It got sent up as a try.'"
Crooks cannot put anyone who was in front of him onside who are within the 10, the only person who can put people back onside is the kicker of the ball which clearly he didn't. The try should of been disallowed by the rules of the game, although it's one rule I hate as even though within the 10 he has no outcome on the play at all.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"You've spent a bit more than us on your squad, good luck in the Grand Final.
p.s 11 men for 2 minutes, you drama queen.'"
I’m not sure about the point you are trying to make. Yes we probably have spent a bit more on our squad. It is reflected in the table. To attract quality players you have to pay accordingly. It is however well known that to get away from the foot of the table you have to pay over the odds to attract players. Otherwise the only players you will get will be those not wanted by other clubs. Due to Toronto dropping out we finished bottom last year. How many of our 2020 squad did you sign?
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| Quote ="Wayne Buxton"[uCrooks cannot put anyone who was in front of him onside who are within the 10, the only person who can put people back onside is the kicker of the ball which clearly he didn't. The try should of been disallowed by the rules of the game,[/u although it's one rule I hate as even though within the 10 he has no outcome on the play at all.'"
Correct.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Not if the proposed system is introduced. You’ll have to wait until the end of 2022 season for that pleasure, it will only delay the inevitable. I’m afraid I cannot see you finishing 10th out of fourteen. You will need almost a new team. Effort will not be enough you will need skill as well. The likes of Joel Tomkins will not be enough.'"
Keith, we will have almost a new team as this team was almost solely recruited for the Championship - next season will be interesting due to the great financial position we will be in compared to our rivals.
On the game, you were gifted numerous helping hands by a very poor official which kept you camped in our 30m area most of the first half. We had the ball in your 20m 3 times scoring twice, as soon as we started to get some position you panicked and despite the decision of the jokiciary the head shots were straight reds imo.
You rode your luck, are in the T6 and I look forward to a much more even match up in 2022 when you will be fighting to make the 10 like ourselves.
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| Quote ="atomic"Crooks put them all onside, the ref sends it up to check the knock on. One he awards on field as a try after consultation with his touch judges, no call from the ref to any player to stay onside after Lawler kicks. Hoods was straight forward offside. The ref for me was correct in both decisions. You can’t be judging if someone is encroaching 10m when the fullback just played them all onside.
It got sent up as a try.'"
Thats a brilliant example of total buzzcox, one of the best ever imo
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| Quote ="maurice"Keith, we will have almost a new team as this team was almost solely recruited for the Championship - next season will be interesting due to the great financial position we will be in compared to our rivals.
On the game, you were gifted numerous helping hands by a very poor official which kept you camped in our 30m area most of the first half. We had the ball in your 20m 3 times scoring twice, as soon as we started to get some position you panicked and despite the decision of the jokiciary the head shots were straight reds imo.
You rode your luck, are in the T6 and I look forward to a much more even match up in 2022 when you will be fighting to make the 10 like ourselves.'"
You say “ we will have almost a new team as this team was almost solely recruited for the Championship - next season will be interesting due to the great financial position we will be in compared to our rivals.”
Assuming you are not relegated where are all these quality players you will need coming from? When at this point none of us know what format will be in place in 2022 how do you know you will be in a great financial position compared to your rivals? You don’t even know who will in SL next year. Looking at the possibilities, Toulouse look in great shape and well supported financially. I suspect you would struggle to beat them this year never mind next whichever division you are both in.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Correct.'"
Seconded.
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| For information: I was sat right in line with the first half try by Minikin which resulted from Brad Takairangi being a couple of yards off side when the kick went up. The touch judge must have seen that but took no action forcing the ref to send it up as a try. Sadly, despite their multitude of cameras, Sky did not have one on Takairangi. Also, the next try resulted from a blatant forward pass a couple of plays earlier. I'm tempted to ask what is the point of the touch judges if they simply abrogate their responsibilities especially if they think there's a camera on it.
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| Quote ="Brian Wood"For information: I was sat right in line with the first half try by Minikin which resulted from Brad Takairangi being a couple of yards off side when the kick went up. The touch judge must have seen that but took no action forcing the ref to send it up as a try. Sadly, despite their multitude of cameras, Sky did not have one on Takairangi. Also, the next try resulted from a blatant forward pass a couple of plays earlier. I'm tempted to ask what is the point of the touch judges if they simply abrogate their responsibilities especially if they think there's a camera on it.'"
Leigh fans I think have discounted almost all of our tries now What a good job the ref and linesmen were blind and biased towards Rovers. The problem is reading other forums some fans of both Hull clubs are convinced there is a vendetta against both Hull clubs to make sure they don’t win.
Strange isn’t it?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Leigh fans I think have discounted almost all of our tries now What a good job the ref and linesmen were blind and biased towards Rovers. The problem is reading other forums [usome fans of both Hull clubs are convinced there is a vendetta against both Hull clubs to make sure they don’t win. [/u
Strange isn’t it?'"
But they are winning, and Leigh are not.
Strange isn’t it?
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| Quote Keiththered wrote:
both Hull clubs are convinced there is a vendetta against both Hull clubs to make sure they don’t win.'"
Quote Cokey wrote:
But they are winning, and Leigh are not.
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Quote ="Keiththered"That’s true .'"
Thanks.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Thanks.
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Very selective editing Cokey you should be a politician. You are no a friend of Trump?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Very selective editing Cokey you should be a politician. [uYou are no a friend of Trump?[/u'"
Are you supposedly asking me if i'm a friend of Trump? Yourself, and the RFL are in a mess,and so is the USA.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Are you supposedly asking me if i'm a friend of Trump? Yourself, and the RFL are in a mess,and so is the USA.'"
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| Quote ="maurice"Keith, we will have almost a new team as this team was almost solely recruited for the Championship - next season will be interesting due to the great financial position we will be in compared to our rivals.
On the game, you were gifted numerous helping hands by a very poor official which kept you camped in our 30m area most of the first half. We had the ball in your 20m 3 times scoring twice, as soon as we started to get some position you panicked and despite the decision of the jokiciary the head shots were straight reds imo.
You rode your luck, are in the T6 and I look forward to a much more even match up in 2022 when you will be fighting to make the 10 like ourselves.'"
Hopefully we meet them in the Challenge Cup Muarice…
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