Thanks Frank you sum it up correctly, I did speak to the people at warrington a couple of year back.
I would think the only way of doing something similar is having two Lisa accounts one for first team players one for youth teams, upon joining you nominate wrong you want your money going too. That would be easy to set up and run I would think.


Lynda

I've made my views/opinions on Lisa on here before, and thats why I have previously never joined as there's lots of things which it coud do rather than what appears 'just giving' to the club, youth development, possibly employ a marketing person to promote the club and lisa, but as I said the other day, at this moment in time (probably at least the next 2 years) its best to just get on with it, and join.

If enough people join and have other ideas on the future direction, in three years time there could be enough members with similar views to vote for a change. or even dare I say enough members to do several things.

See Steves post on page 5 posted yesterday at 4.44 pm , it sets out all we need at the moment , as for the future , let's make sure we have one , then decide how we want it to be funded and how we contribute

The reason I have just joined is because the club are in trouble and need as much help as possible and if that means using my subscription for the purpose of keeping a Leigh rugby team then so be it ,like as been said ,lets get over this huge hurdle before trying to change what LISA does as there is plenty of time for that in the future oh and Linda you are doing a fantastic job

When Leigh entered SL in 2005, with all the SL revenue streams available to the club (including SKY money), LISA members voted to change it's mandate to provide funding for junior development - This was the obvious course of action as first team players were no longer a priority (ie they wold have been brought in anyway, The money was there regardless if LISA existed or not)

The the following season LISA members voted, and again the members decided to continue with a youth development strategy in an attempt to see this investment come to fruition. I remember Kirk Haggerty being one player that was sponsored, along similar lines to Warrington's current ISA.

Then we all know what happened at the end of 2006 the club imploded (again), first team players left in droves and there was a string of other resignations one 'Black Thursday' in October that year.

Suddenly youth development was very much on the 'back burner' and another first team squad was required. LISA funding has been required for the first team ever since. Remember we were very nearly 'relegated' to champ1 in 2009.

So LISA members are pretty much receptive to the 'needs must' of the club rather than resisting change (They have already changed the mandate twice) albeit admittedly in the format they believe is best for the club.

The off field situation at Leigh right now, simply can not be compared to another clubs aims and goals

Also as Frank suggests, If Warrington are unlucky enough to find themselves not only outside SL but in our predicament as well, does anyone really truly believe their ISA will continue to be funding youth development? I do not.

as has been stated this is a battle for survival at present and that should be the one focus, do not get distracted. Agree with every good idea and remind them about the present suggesting I am sure we could do that if the members wanted to when this mess is sorted.

I simply said that the mandate, or constitution, as it is written, does little to attract the 'floating voter'. It's good to know that the purpose can change - but I still think that having that stated more clearly would be a positive move and help attract new members.

And I only put the Wolves one up as an example of a statement with the terms of reference more clearly stated.

You shouldn't need to ask whether I was there from the start because you know I have only just signed up. However if LISA is a club and not a clique, the fact that I'm a new boy should not devalue my opinion in any way.

Waterfields Finest - I do agree that a clear mandate will help in the longer term, and some people, like us, like to focus on stuff like that. The simple truth is that the mandate is currently very simple, we need money or Leigh will go bust. If people withhold their funds because they don't like the sound of it, then I am afraid I think the chances of getting their money for any other purpose would be quite slim!

I can now see the logic of not clouding the clear and urgent message about the need for funds just at the moment. But don't lose the thought, we should definitely revisit it...

we have 4 problems don't we:
1) we pay to play at the 'concrete morgue'.
2) our ONLY backer has quit, our directors are skint also.
3) L.I.S.A. can help, but not save our club.
4) ??????????

Once you have signed up your opinion is as valuable as anybody elses , and you are welcome to put whatever changes you want forward at the AGM , however as you haven't been to a meeting before and you are obviously unaware of previous voting on the very issue you are suggesting , better to go to the meeting and try to convince members there than on here

The only concern right now is securing the short term future of the club , any technical details will have to wait

Yep that sums things up quite well ' Zilla '

Any solutions spring to mind ?

Surely LISA can change the mandate to "cash will be allocated to any cause that the committee see fit under the circumstances". That would include paying players, propping up the finances, paying the kit cleaning bill for example????

I keep hearing people state that the Corporate Club are looking to match LISA's ambition of £60k, it even says that on the official site - is this hearsay or have Sean/Martin actually stated this as a goal officially?

Serious question - no ulterior motive for those who may think otherwise.

Trevor Barton wants people to e-mail him with any suggestions with helping the club

Instead of putting it for all to see, especially as it is your question. Why not just PM or ring Lynda. Personally I think the fact you state there is no ulterior motive means there is a small ulterior motive. Just giving it another little stir eh mo. I am sure Sean or Martin can speak for themselves if they need to.

Lynda isn't in the CC to my knowledge Demo and its stated on the official site under the LISA announcement but I couldn't see a CC one, so I wondered if anyone had seen something. My position on the solution is clear, its a fans/local business partnership - the reason for stating no ulterior motive was to stop personal posts like yours. We do not need infighting at this stage, LISA will get on with what its doing others will do their bit in their way, it will add up when we will need it.
I will assume you haven't seen anything as well then.

To be honest, I have heard very little about the Corporate club since it was set-up. Maybe the members like to keep things low key on purpose which is their prerogative, but it would be nice to hear what role they see themselves playing in the future to augment what LISA is very publically trying to do.

Most of the businesses that 'stood up to be counted' the other week are corporate club members

I know that Fred and I was asked if we could put together a fans/individuals 'member' for that group, but I hadn't seen any public announcement about the £60k goal stated on the official site.

Anyway hope LISA get a great response tomorrow and we get to salute Thomas Sale MBE.

My 'reply' was aimed at MapleLeyther who doesn't get the same 'news' as us locals

Thanks Fred - you are right, I hadn't heard that...!

NO

Well bloody try harder

As you say it says on the official site.....

"LISA have seen the current predicament the club is in and as a result, we aim to increase our membership by 1000 members, this will give the club an extra £60,000 of income per year.

We are also aware that at the same time the Corporate Club are very committed to matching this"

I read that as an official statement from the club so where else are you expecting it to be confirmed?

But 'We' and 'our' appear in that statement so is it an official from Leigh or LISA that has said it?