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| As Michael said everyone s entitled to their views , this is an unofficial fans forum, we all don't agree if we all did there would be no point of having a discussion !
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| Quote ="reffy"There are bound to be differences of opinion when a surprise signing is made, the guy was good, is still good, will be good or not. The odd thing on this thread is not any negativity it is the shock/horror/sadness from the board spokesman that forum members have the temerity to be negative. Reap the applause by all means but why not ignore the odd boo.
For what it's worth I think the young prop will be the better signing.'"
I will correct you as I am not a spokesman for the board and on the odd occasion I do post on here I do so as my own person and not on behalf of the club.
The person I responded to didn't seem to understand the reasons why BJ has been signed and so I pointed out Paul's comments and reasons extracted from an official club release.
I simply made an observation that the only real negativity towards this signing has been on this forum, coincidently a place were people can hide behind usernames and not reveal who they are.
The last few months we've adopted a policy of putting out releases via official channels and interacting with supporters only through official channels or social media accounts like facebook and twitter were the majority of people express opinions without hiding behind a username and we all know who each other is.
I think this is the best policy and we shall continue to do so. I just hope Ben doesn't stumble across this thread or I'm sure he may regret turning down other clubs to join ours.
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| Let's wait And see him in action folks
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"As Michael said everyone s entitled to their views , this is an unofficial fans forum, we all don't agree if we all did there would be no point of having a discussion !'"
Don't think anyone is arguing with that Lynda, I'm certainly not.
My post was to highlight Paul's reasoning for the signing in his own words for bringing BJ to the club as some posters are either overlooking them or not understanding them. With a talented but young and inexperienced set of half backs in a FT environment nobody should underestimate these reasons and the experience and quality this guy brings to the club as we move up a gear next season will be vital.
The guy I responded to would have like to have seen a punt taken on a young half back, next season is not a year for punts or gambles in my opinion as we strive for top four and a shot in the middle eight next year to give us a potential play off for SL 2016.
I made a personal observation (not a statement on behalf of the club) that the only negativity or what I personally perceive as negativity towards this signing has been on this message board.
If we get this kind of reaction to adding a top class experienced half back who we identified and secured ahead of other challengers to add to an already strong squad I'm just glad we haven't actually lost a game this year in the league
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| As per the reporter, we have a few who know him well, Oli and finnegan both do, so I'm sure the homework has been done. I am very pleased with this signing
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Don't think anyone is arguing with that Lynda, I'm certainly not.
My post was to highlight Paul's reasoning for the signing in his own words for bringing BJ to the club as some posters are either overlooking them or not understanding them. With a talented but young and inexperienced set of half backs in a FT environment nobody should underestimate these reasons and the experience and quality this guy brings to the club as we move up a gear next season will be vital.
The guy I responded to would have like to have seen a punt taken on a young half back, next season is not a year for punts or gambles in my opinion as we strive for top four and a shot in the middle eight next year to give us a potential play off for
I made a personal observation (not a statement on behalf of the club) that the only negativity or what I personally perceive as negativity towards this signing has been on this message board.
If we get this kind of reaction to adding a top class experienced half back who we identified and secured ahead of other challengers to add to an already strong squad I'm just glad we haven't actually lost a game this year in the league
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My comment was for all people whether they agree with signing or not
Sometimes a signing doesn't work , ie Brown, Govin etc etc we will have to wait and see .
I loved Ben when he was at Wakey he was a great player
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| He's coming poker tonight didn't you know lol
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| If a vastly experienced SL player is put off by the thought of some doubts existing in the minds of some of the fans of his new club, then he really IS a duff signing.
The right way to look at it is that the fans know the high standards to which we are now aspiring and want to be confident that every decision made will support that. To put it another way - we care, deeply.
Just 2 or 3 years ago we would have been over the moon at this guy signing - now we are a little more "picky". That's a good thing.
And let's get past this constant reference to people "hiding behind usernames". It's called the internet. Unless people are saying something libelous or outright bringing the club down then who cares what their name is? It's just their opinion. I've been posting on this board since 2002, some people know who I am, most probably don't and they probably don't care.
Back to the topic, I think it could potentially be a great signing. By no stretch of the imagination is it a "no-brainer", it's something of a gamble, a calculated one - one which PR and the BOM have every right to take. Bouquets if it goes right, brickbats if it doesn't - that's life!
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Ben joins us when he's finished in Emmerdale'"
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| It surprises me that some aren't surprised at all about this signing - how many teams would sign a nearly 34 year old half back who has hardly played in the last year? I'm not saying it's right or wrong.....just surprising.
If any of you want to consider that as moaning then knock yourselves out.
PR has rarely been wrong since he became coach but everyone makes mistakes and only time will tell if this is one of those mistakes.
Personally I will welcome BJ regardless.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"If a vastly experienced SL player is put off by the thought of some doubts existing in the minds of some of the fans of his new club, then he really IS a duff signing.
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Due to the fact he will be 34 and hasn't played for 2 years, then in all honesty he can't be surprised at the fans reactions! It hopefully will just motivate him even more to prove everyone wrong.
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| In this digital age, If I was signing for a club or indeed if I was connected to a club in any shape or fashion I would stay well away from reading any unofficial fans forum I really would.
Mr Harold E Rigby, Butts Bridger.
NB: Life long Leigh RLFC supporter, born a stone's throw from Kirkhall Lane, right next door to Ring O Bells pub who reserves the right to express on an unofficial forum a feeling of being completely under whelmed by the signing of a 34 year old Aussie half back as he see's fit but, will be cheering on the said player turning out for his beloved Leigh Rugby team regardless
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| Quote ="Saley2"Tommy Marytn did ok for us in 2004 mish how old was he again?'"
He did, He was 32 having just come straight out of Super League and his burning desire to help his hometown club reach the promised land of Super League in his final flurry was passionately well documented by him at the time.
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| I've counted 5 posters on this thread who have posted negative comments about this signing. Hardly an overwhelming attack on the clubs transfer policy by hundreds of people!!! There are a lot more than 5 posters having a dig at their negativity!! Some people just like to keep going on & on & on. Now if we want a real debate lets get on to the subject of why Friday night games are so successful for all the top clubs in Super League.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"I've counted 5 posters on this thread who have posted negative comments about this signing. Hardly an overwhelming attack on the clubs transfer policy by hundreds of people!!! There are a lot more than 5 posters having a dig at their negativity!! Some people just like to keep going on & on & on. Now if we want a real debate lets get on to the subject of why Friday night games are so successful for all the top clubs in Super League.
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Because they get £1.5m from sky, have the biggest teams to play against and can attract companies who will pay to sponsor games and take up corporate at much higher prices than championship clubs can get
We have 2 saturday and a Friday game to come - lets see response
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| Well I personally think its a shrewd bit of business, Riddy & Kez are going to need support in a more intense league next year and Ben fits that bill perfectly. Those feeder leagues in OZ are as good as if not a better standard than the championship.
We are all assuming he will be on a huge salary but the noises im hearing indicate its not that much and will be a squad player rather than starting HB.
If he can come over help with the attacking structures, set plays, kicking game and slot straight into the team if an injury occurs to ANY of the pivots then brilliant, that's how league campaigns can fall apart.
He is only 1 year older than Penky aswell!
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| Quote ="advocatus diaboli"Due to the fact he will be 34 and hasn't played for 2 years, then in all honesty he can't be surprised at the fans reactions! It hopefully will just motivate him even more to prove everyone wrong.'"
I have him playing in their grand final last September, dunno about after that though records are a bit thin on the ground for the Newcastle League, however I'm sure i read somewhere he had fallen out with Kuri Bulldogs in the off season and was trying to get out of his registration to play for another club in that league (May this year).
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| Quote ="advocatus diaboli"Due to the fact he will be 34 and hasn't played for 2 years, then in all honesty he can't be surprised at the fans reactions! It hopefully will just motivate him even more to prove everyone wrong.'"
But he has played.....upto the end of 2013. In my opinion, for what its worth, opinions should always be based on facts.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"I will correct you as I am not a spokesman for the board and on the odd occasion I do post on here I do so as my own person and not on behalf of the club.
The person I responded to didn't seem to understand the reasons why BJ has been signed and so I pointed out Paul's comments and reasons extracted from an official club release.
I simply made an observation that the only real negativity towards this signing has been on this forum, coincidently a place were people can hide behind usernames and not reveal who they are.
The last few months we've adopted a policy of putting out releases via official channels and interacting with supporters only through official channels or social media accounts like facebook and twitter were the majority of people express opinions without hiding behind a username and we all know who each other is.
I think this is the best policy and we shall continue to do so. I just hope Ben doesn't stumble across this thread or I'm sure he may regret turning down other clubs to join ours.'"
As the person you replied to I'd read PR's comments and still find it strange, hence why I said if we are to sign a player for cover then why not take a punt on a youngster, with questions being asked about what he's done for the last few years then BJ doesn't appear to be coming over with a guarantee.
As for hiding behind user names, plenty on here know who I am including yourself, I've never wrote anything on here I wouldn't say to anyone's face.
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