www.swintonlionsrlc.co.uk/compon ... ngton.html The intregrity of the comp has well and truly gone now,lets hope gates rise to compensate

www.swintonlionsrlc.co.uk/compon ... ngton.html The intregrity of the comp has well and truly gone now,lets hope gates rise to compensate

The world has gone mad. The one benefit of any dual registration was a means of youth development (if it was developing players on behalf of other clubs), but this just takes the p1ss.

So there are 8 Warrington players in the 19 man squad which means that at least 6 will be in the matchday lineup!

I have obviously missed some of the details to the new structure -

a) What happened to under 22 years old
b) Isn't 4 the maximum a team can have?

Think there is actually 9 Wire players in there

Jack Morrison is a wire player too according to the swinton match reports although he isn't listed in the warrington 1st team squad like the others.

The rules definately need clearing up. Seeing as Workington also have a 'full team' dual contract deal with widnes I wouldn't be surprised to see a good few DC's lining up for both side's Swinton/Wire v Workington/Widnes

This really does start to take the mick and really devalues the Championship for me. Like Matt says it used to have the justification of giving young players real game time, and only a few at each club. These new deals and partnerships we see at Swinton sand others are basically fullfilling the feeder club prophecies we had a few seasons ago.

The Championship is a fine competition in its own right. We don't want to become the Super League fringe player and rehabilitation league, basically a glorified reserves comp.

As a Fax supporter I am glad that our coach made a stand against having anything to do with this arrangement with Super League .But come the end of the season will I still feel the same way if the teams who have decided to sign up are at the top of the table due to playing all these Super League players ? If our teams are langiushing on the bottom will fans start to change their minds especially if they walk into all the finals ,the Super League Clubs who wanted this are just down right selfish in my opinion and nothing changes there but the RFL should not allow it to happen .The amount of players they are useing is too many.

No age limit anymore, however Swintons salary cap will be affected. Somewhere is a sliding scale of how much of their salary cap gets used for each player dependant on their warrington salary. Won't happen that often I don't think, but I feel Swinton will make use of thissystem more than most as they only have a squad of 16/17 of their own players. Absolute total and utter joke. Its got jack all to do with youth development.

But I'm sure it will have its supporters somewhere. Incidentally there should only be 5 DC players in the playing squad on the day

At least Dave Woods showed a little common sense last night, when he said he'd been offered 3 saints players, including one who has played in a S/L G/F....but declined them all, as he wants to see how his contracted players go, as he thought it only fair.

Well my view is this will come back to bite Swinton.

An injury crisis at Wire later in the season and then what do they do ?

I am also of the opinion that there is not that depth of quality in NON RELEGATION league clubs to have that much impact on the top 4/5 clubs in the Championship.

We as a club accepted as many as 4DC players in the past and we got on with it but did lose such players at critical times.

I don't like this new innovation but long term I do not think it is sustainable.

I'm told that, when we enquired about taking Laithwaite on loan, Warrington's response was that they would only consider loaning him out to a Super League club.

And I thought there were rules about the number of D/C or loan players you could name in your squad? I believe 'Demon' was right with 5.

having just trawled the RFL regulations online to try and clear up loans and dual contracts guess what? yes they have nor updated them online, come on RFL us mushrooms need to know

Having read the link again and again it says Laithewaite,Woods and McCarthy have been signed on as DRs,but it says the other are new signings,am i reading it right?

Possibly loan signings from Warrington perhaps ?

Your right Frank it will come back to haunt Swinton as they will have no continuity in the team. We can now say that Swinton are Warringtons "A" Team, like it used to be.
Joke. Not in my mind. It's a disgrace.

This is exactly what i was getting at when i replied to one of Charlies posts on another thread about us not being able to predict league table positions this year as we have no idea how this Twinning fiasco will work out through the season and looking at that Swinton squad i too fear for the integrity of our comp.

Was/is there not an age limit for D/C's? Surely, Woods (& McCarthy?) are the wrong side of that age limit?

How can it come back to haunt them Tony?,If Warrington have a first team squad of 30 players (just a guess) and tony Smith names his match day squad of 18 ,that leaves 12 players who are available for DR, so at least 3 of them will be playing for swinton every week.

John look how we suffered with just loosing one or two players. They could be changing 5 or 6. As well as all the stick they will get from the true teams. I sit near the opposing clubs coaches an I will not be holding back over this fiasco. Especially if we are loosing.

When this initiative first came out i dont remember any club using any players that were old or established first team players, so if there ever was an age limit then clearly it doesn't exist anymore,so not only is the championships a devolpement/feeder leagues they're now reserve leagues as well.

Id be surprised mate if swinton don't spend a lot of time training with warrington,if thats the case then players being changed around wont be such a disruption.The championships have gone mate,they might as well call it the FDR league - feeder/developement/reserve leagues.

They don't have the space, personel or time and if it disrupts the Warington training regime Swinton will be tossed a side. Warrington will only integrate Swinton players into that regime if they think they are good enough. There will be the cream from Swinton training with Wire and the rest will be with the Swinton coaches. Team morale booster or what. Not.

Wont Warrington train during the day and Swinton at night?

What may happen is Smith may set the training sessions for both clubs, allow for an easy transition between the two.

Thats what i was trying to say in my own half rsed way