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| Ratch at 4.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Ratch at 4.'"
That will please a few on here won't it.
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| Got to say I’m rather disappointed with that, on the other hand Dudson and Kasiano slipped down the rankings what number is Powell going to get then.
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| Also with Ratchford keeping the 4 shirt I really hope he is not kept as captain for next season.
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| With the senior players not yet back in training I don't think that we can read too much into the squad numbers at this stage other than the fact that Dwyer is well down the list rather than having a bench spot. As they stand, 1 - 17, it looks like Ratchford starting at centre then moving into Dummy Half, in order to spell Walker, with Tai taking over at Centre.
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| The numbers themselves are irrelevant, just doesn't look like a side that will trouble any trophies. Not much depth there.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"With the senior players not yet back in training I don't think that we can read too much into the squad numbers at this stage other than the fact that Dwyer is well down the list rather than having a bench spot. As they stand, 1 - 17, it looks like Ratchford starting at centre then moving into Dummy Half, in order to spell Walker, with Tai taking over at Centre.'"
Would kinda of agree except what’s the point of the Powell signing then.
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| Would've been nice to see a boost given to the likes of Hayes or wrench by giving them a shirt in the first 17. If Drinkwater is going to be our scrum half next season then I really can't be bothered wasting my money. Hopefully Burgess can make some inspired speeches tomorrow to get me excited for next season!!
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| As usual, really, no great surprises & it's always a shame they have to be issued so early for commercial reasons. Not really much chance of Hayes or Wrench getting a starting shirt but let's hope they get games & put real pressure on the selectors.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"With the senior players not yet back in training I don't think that we can read too much into the squad numbers at this stage other than the fact that Dwyer is well down the list rather than having a bench spot. As they stand, 1 - 17, it looks like Ratchford starting at centre then moving into Dummy Half, in order to spell Walker, with Tai taking over at Centre.'"
That is THE most confusing assumption I've ever seen on here
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| Being realistic , i would love to see a team with plenty of young lads giving everything on the pitch but the benchmark for most fans is success on the pitch & it is that success that governs a coach's shelf life. It is a
short season with the easily lost chance of winning silverware so the coach will go with what team he thinks will bring most success.
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| Quote ="ninearches"Being realistic , i would love to see a team with plenty of young lads giving everything on the pitch but the benchmark for most fans is success on the pitch & it is that success that governs a coach's shelf life. It is a
short season with the easily lost chance of winning silverware so the coach will go with what team he thinks will bring most success.'"
Winning is everything. If suddenly we started picking "plenty of young kids" & started losing we'd soon find out from our fans. I'd give 'em two games before the sparks would fly. Selectors pick who they think is their best team. Of course we don't all agree with the selectors but that is how it is.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Also with Ratchford keeping the 4 shirt I really hope he is not kept as captain for next season.'"
Who would you give it to?
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| We have a player in our ranks who is respected across the Rugby League world, is a guaranteed starter if fit and is the current England captain….no brainer. It cannot be Ratchford again…..and I’ll be telling Sam this tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Who would you give it to?'"
Tbh I don’t have a clue simply because nobody spoke up when we were down. Ratchford was not the answer last season, now whether the Maguire thing really did cause a split in the team or not we have never known. All I know is we need someone behind the sticks geeing the lads up if we are down. Since Briers who was a monster with his vocals on the pitch only players I know was Gidley and Sims that would often have a voice. I just think you have to have a vocal leader on the field.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Tbh I don’t have a clue simply because nobody spoke up when we were down. Ratchford was not the answer last season, now whether the Maguire thing really did cause a split in the team or not we have never known. All I know is we need someone behind the sticks geeing the lads up if we are down. Since Briers who was a monster with his vocals on the pitch only players I know was Gidley and Sims that would often have a voice. I just think you have to have a vocal leader on the field.'"
Surely Williams is a candidate as the previous poster opined.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Surely Williams is a candidate as the previous poster opined.'"
Paul Vaughan might be a goer. Well respected & sure of his place. No matter who is chosen as Captain the main decision maker on the field will be Williams but he may not want to have the captain label on him.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Winning is everything. If suddenly we started picking "plenty of young kids" & started losing we'd soon find out from our fans. I'd give 'em two games before the sparks would fly. Selectors pick who they think is their best team. Of course we don't all agree with the selectors but that is how it is.'"
We've squandered so many opportunities when we have been poor, and in no danger of relegation, that I have little confidence of Hayes and others getting a go.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"We've squandered so many opportunities when we have been poor, and in no danger of relegation, that I have little confidence of Hayes and others getting a go.'"
We don`t seem to grasp that the youngsters actually want to win games, and always try their best.
It is just a job, to Drinkwater Dudson etc, most of the time last season, they couldn`t give a monkeys whether we lose.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"We don`t seem to grasp that the youngsters actually want to win games, and always try their best.
It is just a job, to Drinkwater Dudson etc, most of the time last season, they couldn`t give a monkeys whether we lose.'"
Steady on. Know lots of old farts who have run their blood to water & several young 'uns who have so much to learn & have no influence on a game. It is not quite as clear cut as it seems. Picking out the good youngsters is the key ... not just picking youngsters.
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| Well Mr Burgess is a big fan of Crowther so you can see that out and out effort is going to be rewarded.
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| “Well Mr Burgess is a big fan of Crowther so you can see that out and out effort is going to be rewarded.”
And that’s why he was so keen to sign Powell apparently.
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| I don’t like squad numbers as it displays seniority with the first 13, giving them a sense untouchability, like Drinkwater 7.
I can see with the post on here that you think that too.
Go back to earn the shirt, or if squad numbers are mandatory, then award alphabetically.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I don’t like squad numbers as it displays seniority with the first 13, giving them a sense untouchability, like Drinkwater 7.
I can see with the post on here that you think that too.
Go back to earn the shirt, or if squad numbers are mandatory, then award alphabetically.'"
Change my name to Josh Aardvark then
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