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| Might be a bit premature, but wondering if anyone has heard/seen/inside knowledge on when Magic Weekend may be next year?
I’m thinking it may revert to late May again this year, as it was only early June due to the Premier League being halted for the World Cup over the winter, which pushed the season longer. I’m [iassuming[/i it’s going to be at St James Park once again, and with it potentially being the last MW before IMG take over and try to bin off loop fixtures (I’m 100% in favour of getting rid of loop fixtures, but keeping MW) then I’d really like to go.
Any help appreciated
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| Challenge Cup final is June 8th so doubtful it would be May.
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| Ah yea, I didn’t even think of the Challenge Cup. I know it was in June a year or so ago, but it reverted to August this year, so i thought they’d binned it off.
I remember seeing IMG say that they wanted the Cup final to be “Rugby League’s Big Day Out”, and Magic Weekend threatened that, so it was a big reason for it to be axed.
I’ve got no idea when in the calendar it could be now then….
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Yea i had a read of this before i posted as thought the dates might’ve been out and about somewhere. I fancy wire v Leeds at MW though, so hope them fixtures are true!
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Yea i had a read of this before i posted as thought the dates might’ve been out and about somewhere. I fancy wire v Leeds at MW though, so hope them fixtures are true!
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| Quote ="skotyw"Ah yea, I didn’t even think of the Challenge Cup. I know it was in June a year or so ago, but it reverted to August this year, so i thought they’d binned it off.
I remember seeing IMG say that they wanted the Cup final to be “Rugby League’s Big Day Out”, and Magic Weekend threatened that, so it was a big reason for it to be axed.
I’ve got no idea when in the calendar it could be now then….'"
Before the Magic weekend, Wembley was the RL Mecca.
Fans from all clubs would go.
You don’t see so many now.
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| Old Trafford is exclusively for SL teams & Wembley for the top 8 teams from all divisions thanks to the seeding system. The romance of the cup has gone for lower division supporters.
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| I think the magic weekend needs a big overhaul.
I would go with a regional 9's competition with a full international at the end of each day.
So for example you could have a North West 9's competition with Wigan, Saints, Salford, Leigh, us, Widnes, Swinton, Whitehaven, Barrow etc with then say Wales v Ireland at the end of Saturday and England v France at the end of Sunday.
This could be played at Bramley Moor Dock or the Etihad at the end of the football season.
Then there would be an equivalent in the North East with Leeds, Hull FC, Hull KR, Cas, Huddersfield, York, Bradford, Dec etc etc and an international again on Sat and England v France on the Sunday.
We are likely to see 2 French teams in super league from 2025 and this would help to build the France v England competition.
It would help to rekindle some of the old rivalries like Wire v Widnes, Leeds v Bradford and Cas v Wakey (although they could be in the same division by then).
Because of the loss of competitions like the Regal trophy and Lancashire cup the teams in the lower divisions only really get one chance per year to face a big team in the challenge cup and for a full 13 a side 80 minute game they don't really stand a chance but in a 9's comp they could have a shot of an upset.
Playing a 9's competition would help to release some of the players for the full internationals whilst you had the likes of Field, French, Dufty, Mbye, Croft and would be a good chance to see some youngsters etc etc playing in the 9's
The North East teams would get a week off (apart from players on international duty) when the NW weekend is played and cisa versa.
Cricket has managed to diversify to a point that is almost unrecognisable from 20 years ago With T20 and the Hundred and I think we need to do the same. We need to showcase the speed , skill and athleticism in a different format. Combine that with a full international would be quite a draw for established supporters, newcomers and broadcasters.
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| Quote ="Deus Dat Incrementum"I think the magic weekend needs a big overhaul.
I would go with a regional 9's competition with a full international at the end of each day.
So for example you could have a North West 9's competition with Wigan, Saints, Salford, Leigh, us, Widnes, Swinton, Whitehaven, Barrow etc with then say Wales v Ireland at the end of Saturday and England v France at the end of Sunday.
This could be played at Bramley Moor Dock or the Etihad at the end of the football season.
Then there would be an equivalent in the North East with Leeds, Hull FC, Hull KR, Cas, Huddersfield, York, Bradford, Dec etc etc and an international again on Sat and England v France on the Sunday.
We are likely to see 2 French teams in super league from 2025 and this would help to build the France v England competition.
It would help to rekindle some of the old rivalries like Wire v Widnes, Leeds v Bradford and Cas v Wakey (although they could be in the same division by then).
Because of the loss of competitions like the Regal trophy and Lancashire cup the teams in the lower divisions only really get one chance per year to face a big team in the challenge cup and for a full 13 a side 80 minute game they don't really stand a chance but in a 9's comp they could have a shot of an upset.
Playing a 9's competition would help to release some of the players for the full internationals whilst you had the likes of Field, French, Dufty, Mbye, Croft and would be a good chance to see some youngsters etc etc playing in the 9's
The North East teams would get a week off (apart from players on international duty) when the NW weekend is played and cisa versa.
Cricket has managed to diversify to a point that is almost unrecognisable from 20 years ago With T20 and the Hundred and I think we need to do the same. We need to showcase the speed , skill and athleticism in a different format. Combine that with a full international would be quite a draw for established supporters, newcomers and broadcasters.'"
I'd try 7 aside with a 3 tackle rule. 7 mins each way. The six tackle rule needs to be dumped for a smaller game. Top sides would have to buy into it and play their best "sevens" players. We'd have Ashton, Dufty, Williams, Thewlis, Currie, Walker, Nicholson ... or something like that.
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| Quote ="karetaker"https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/magic-weekend-fixtures-and-date-leaked-for-2024-as-event-seemingly-confirmed-84961/'"
Thanks for the heads up
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| By all accounts is seems that Magic Weekend is destined for Elland Road, 17th & 18th August.
What a poor decision
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| Looking at the fixtures it will be empty on the Sunday.
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| Quote ="skotyw"By all accounts is seems that Magic Weekend is destined for Elland Road, 17th & 18th August.
What a poor decision'"
Whilst I might agree that Leeds and Elland Road in particular is a poor choice, from a 'preaching to the converted' POV I was getting a bit bored with Newcastle and it was becoming a bit of a chore and 'old hat IMO.
I was ready for somewhere new Nottingham Leicester Birmingham Coventry Sheffield Bristol
Newcastle is not the metropolis that it likes to think it is and there's not great connectivity by train (to/from MCR in my case) depending when your game was scheduled. Before I get pulled up I understand that towns on my alternative list might not be as big or easier to get to than Newcastle, it was the year on year and accommodation pricing that was starting to grind my gears.
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| Looks like the RFL have chosen Elland Road as a spoiler tactic.
The Magic Weekend will be poorly attended there and this will be used as justification for its removal from the Super League schedule.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Looks like the RFL have chosen Elland Road as a spoiler tactic.
The Magic Weekend will be poorly attended there and this will be used as justification for its removal from the Super League schedule.'"
Pretty sure I read IMG want to drop it anyway.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Pretty sure I read IMG want to drop it anyway.'"
Yes they do, and that`s why the RFL have chosen Elland Road to host the event.
They are basically planning to fail, and for once their plan will work out.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Yes they do, and that`s why the RFL have chosen Elland Road to host the event.
They are basically planning to fail, and for once their plan will work out.'"
True, won’t be any Saints fans there. They are all in Rhyl that time of year.
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| We have Leeds in Leeds. Magic.
To be honest I don't like magic weekend and wouldn't miss it.
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| I believe Sky want MW and as they provide the money, will get what they want. Newcastle FC new owners didn't want it there
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| Quote ="CW8"We have Leeds in Leeds. Magic. /quote
So Leeds have been awarded an extra home fixture.
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| On the various media outlets there are a lot of people even players not happy about this decision.
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| Why do people think it will be poorly attended? Leeds is the biggest rugby league city in the country, it's geographically the closest Magic Weekend ever to Hull, both of whose teams always take decent support (albeit usually to watch a derby which isn't the case now), and Leeds United are probably the best supported football club amongst rugby league fans east of the Pennines.
The Saturday at least should be very well attended with the biggest game of the weekend taking place on the same day as Leeds are playing and a likely sizeable following from Hull FC will be there too. There's a very good chance the clubs playing on that day could sell out Elland Road between them.
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| I do acknowledge playing in Leeds is pretty much the polar opposite of growing the game by the way! I don't think MW really does that anyway though.
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