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| I was heartened to read that Chambers interview. Well, that part of it anyway. His love of dudson disturbed me somewhat!
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| So we have announced a new centre and according to Abe we are looking for 2 think the other one mentioned was Harper. Well reading that he is behind others, my question is how far behind does he have to be, a lot have called for a long time for Mata’utia to be dropped I think the fact that Ratchford is a good goal kicker keeps him in at centre. So King, Tai Wrench and one other how much further does that push Wrench down, he should be getting chances now.
Further down he talks about Dudson.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I was heartened to read that Chambers interview. Well, that part of it anyway. His love of dudson disturbed me somewhat!'"
Read that and was thinking rather have Fitzpatrick for Director of Rugby.
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| Chambers talks sense for me. Knows his rugby, has really been into youth rugby & knows what "fans" think. Sees so much more than we do. I'm glad he's i/c. There are always going to be selection calls that individuals disagree with but you have to get over that.
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| Good old "he's a proffessional and trains hard".........super duper, doesn't mean he's a good player that we actually need.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Good old "he's a proffessional and trains hard".........super duper, doesn't mean he's a good player that we actually need.'"
I read it that that was Chamber’s view as well ie code for I don’t rate him as a player but it would be very unprofessional of me to say so.
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| Always have to take every coach's words with a pinch of salt. The only way to work out what they really are thinking is to look at who they pick. Wrench might get picked in the future but at the moment he is down the pecking order.
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| I think Chambers talks a lot of sense about Wrench. He’s a fantastic long term prospect and they’re trying to do the right thing to ensure he fulfils that potential.
In terms of Dudson, the interviewer should follow up and ask whether fewer than 30m per match is acceptable for a prop forward.
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| Chambers has aways been pretty vocal about NOT playing young players too early. In his view it leaves them open to injury and harming their development as they are not physically ready. He’s even suggesting there that Wrench’s ACL was due to him playing too much SL at a young age.
I think justt because Chambers was head of youth people expect him to play younger players more often - I’m not sure that’s going to be the case. Barring some players like Nicholson & Green who look physically ready at 18 / 19, we’re going to see young players game time very managed.
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| I get what Chambers is saying while we now refer to full time players as athletes.
Makes you revalue Murphy’s insight ”if they’re good enough, they’re old enough!”
That may have been the correct scenario during a semi professional sport.
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| It seems likely that Wrench will be used on the wing in future which sounds good to me. Ashton and Wrench must be the fastest pair in Super League and decent centres with them should work well.
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| So is the plan for Thewlis to play wing and cover for Dufty and Wrench comes in to cover on the wing? I know there’s talk of Dufty going but if possible I’d like to keep him, when he’s on it he’s absolute class and I think under Burgess he’ll be on it more often than not.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"So is the plan for Thewlis to play wing and cover for Dufty and Wrench comes in to cover on the wing? I know there’s talk of Dufty going but if possible I’d like to keep him, when he’s on it he’s absolute class and I think under Burgess he’ll be on it more often than not.'"
FB Dufty with Thewlis as cover
Wing: Ashton, Thewlis, Russell, Wrench
Centre: Tai, King/NRL Centre, Wrench, Bruines
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Backs seem ok depth wise, especially as Ratchford could cover in there as well if needed. Concerns probably hooker, backrow and some quality at prop?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"FB Dufty with Thewlis as cover
Wing: Ashton, Thewlis, Russell, Wrench
Centre: Tai, King/NRL Centre, Wrench, Bruines
Halves: Williams, Drinkwater, Dean, Hayes
Backs seem ok depth wise, especially as Ratchford could cover in there as well if needed. Concerns probably hooker, backrow and some quality at prop?'"
Have you forgot Fitzgibbon, was a long time a go since we signed him. I know it was said somewhere about Ratchford covering hooker next season but how far off is Doolan getting his chance. And Was said we still looking for a prop.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Have you forgot Fitzgibbon, was a long time a go since we signed him. I know it was said somewhere about Ratchford covering hooker next season but how far off is Doolan getting his chance. And Was said we still looking for a prop.'"
No hadn't forgotten Fitzgibbon, but we have Currie and Fitzgibbon 11 & 12 and Nicholson 13. we have players like Philbin & Harrison who can do a job in the backrow, but we feel a little light there.
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| We need a prop minimum, ideally 2.
But on topic. I would have hoped Wrench would be the centre of 2024.
We’ll see what the off season does to him.
Competition his healthy.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"We need a prop minimum, ideally 2.
But on topic. I would have hoped Wrench would be the centre of 2024.
We’ll see what the off season does to him.
Competition his healthy.'"
I assume if you're bringing in 2 more props you would try and get rid of someone already in the squad?
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| Wrench will be 22 at the start of next season. He isn't a kid. I can understand us nurturing him back slowly after his acl injury, but if he's not being selected, his age should not be a factor.
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| He's 22 next month though. If not now, then when?
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| Quote ="Wires71"He's 22 next month though. If not now, then when?'"
Not every person develops at the same time.
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| Quote ="Wires71"He's 22 next month though. If not now, then when?'"
When the medical and conditioning staff who work with him day in, day out are confident that he is not taking undue risk of further long term injuries by playing every week.
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| Raised my eyebrows at the signing of 2 centres.
Combined with what Chambers said about Wrench, and we've currently got King and Ratch for next year.
5 into 2 doesn't go.
Ratch to back up hooker?
King - depends which King we get. Could play 'on fire' or be loaned out.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I read it that that was Chamber’s view as well ie code for I don’t rate him as a player but it would be very unprofessional of me to say so.'"
Exactly what I read into it and hardly the Love Affair reported by others.
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| Quote ="just_browny"When the medical and conditioning staff who work with him day in, day out are confident that he is not taking undue risk of further long term injuries by playing every week.'"
Or when mata'utia is injured.
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