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| So just back from the match, lord of leaving presentations and a couple of speeches. Nice touch. Nothing for Jason Clark though…..so is he actually staying then???
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| Personally, I hope so
I know lots on here won't agree with it, but he's a huge part of how we defend. Doesn't offer much from a creative point of view but builds a platform for others
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| He must be going! He is terrible.
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| HE IS OUR NEW PROP
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| I don't mind the guy but having Jason Clark and Hughes is a waste of cap space IMO. It would be a no from me purely to free up cap space for elsewhere.
I reckon he will be staying though with no leaving announcement ahead of this game.
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| Quote ="CW8"I don't mind the guy but having Jason Clark and Hughes is a waste of cap space IMO. It would be a no from me purely to free up cap space for elsewhere.
I reckon he will be staying though with no leaving announcement ahead of this game.'"
Having Hughes is a waste of cap space whether Jason Clark is here or not.
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| This might be an unpopular opinion but I hope he stays. He is solid in defence and in attack more often than not gets a quick play of the ball which opens up the game for us. Although I would love a team of superstars it's clearly not possible.
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| God I so hope not esp when players line Mamo have gone.
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| Same goes for Ashton, looks like they are both staying by the looks of it
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| Quote ="mailman"This might be an unpopular opinion but I hope he stays. He is solid in defence and in attack more often than not gets a quick play of the ball which opens up the game for us. Although I would love a team of superstars it's clearly not possible.'"
He absolutely doesn't get fast play the ball.
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| Who would folk rather have Hughes or j Clark..tough choice
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| Hughes, mostly because i expect him to be slightly cheaper on the cap.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Who would folk rather have Hughes or j Clark..tough choice'"
I'd be delighted if Holmes and longstaff was our second row partnership next season. So nether for me!
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Who would folk rather have Hughes or j Clark..tough choice'"
Can I rather be kicked in the nuts repeatedly, it would be less painful.
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| Quote ="lister"Can I rather be kicked in the nuts repeatedly, it would be less painful.'"
Very good..only asked cos they're so alike..for me Hughes cos he offers a bit more versatility.i.e can play stand off and centre when a crisis arises
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"I'd be delighted if Holmes and longstaff was our second row partnership next season. So nether for me!
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What has Ben Currie done to upset you?!
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"What has Ben Currie done to upset you?!'"
The only possible justification for not having currie as your first choice 2nd row next year is that you want a more attacking 13. He is our best back rower by a long way at the minute.
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| Currie, Hughes, Holmes, Davis, Clark and Longstaff quite happy with that battling It out for 11-13.
We just need a top class prop for me.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"What has Ben Currie done to upset you?!'"
I'd play him at 13.
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| Quote ="CW8"I don't mind the guy but having Jason Clark and Hughes is a waste of cap space IMO. It would be a no from me purely to free up cap space for elsewhere..'"
I don't mind keeping JC for another year and I would get rid of Hughes. Makes little ground, stops every attack in its tracks.
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| Quote ="The Railwayman"I don't mind keeping JC for another year and I would get rid of Hughes. Makes little ground, stops every attack in its tracks.'"
You'd get rid of Hughes for all that, but would keep jc, who's too small for a prop, and makes little ground?
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| Quote ="The Railwayman"I don't mind keeping JC for another year and I would get rid of Hughes. Makes little ground, stops every attack in its tracks.'"
They both do, they also both get slow play the ball but Clark seems a little bit slower there too. To their credit they're both very good defenders and will tackle all day for us. You do need a player who will go about doing all the dirty work but if that's pretty much their contribution then 2 such players is at least 1 too many IMO. I prefer players who will do that but also run a decent line and have an offload or a pass in them like Currie and from what I've seen Holmes. Longstaff has a lot of potential too but it's too early to say he's an attacking theat just yet.
The trouble with a player who doesn't release the ball is that defensive teams know that it's just being run in, so they can commit 3 or even 4 men to the tackle and slow it all right down, by the time the ball is played their whole defensive line is set and ready. The fear of an offload or a pass coming out in the tackle pretty much stops that or at least significantly reduces it and the chances of the ball being kept alive or a fast play the ball with some defensive gaps increases dramatically.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"You'd get rid of Hughes for all that, but would keep jc, who's too small for a prop, and makes little ground?'"
Yep. The original argument was can you have BOTH Hughes and JC in the same pack and I say no and would prefer JC as I don't rate Hughes very much. JC has an offload in his game and I do agree that he is not a prop.
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| Like most people on here I too assumed that he would leave at the end of this season, especially with Inglis gone.
Given that he didn`t say farewell yesterday after the match, it does like he is staying after all.
He must surely have accepted a big drop in salary and maybe he is a stopgap until Longstaff and Doro are eased into our team or we are waiting for a top line forward to become available to sign?
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| Price-style = Hughes and Currie with Clark off bench.
Powell-style = Currie and Holmes with Longstaff off the bench.
I think I prefer the Powell option. That right side could be so much more with Williams using Holmes or Longstaff. I know Hughes is the Captain but maybe it’s time to freshen things up a little. Who is the most resilient on-field leader for when the chips are down? What I’d give for a Farrell or Sculthorpe type personality in the squad right now.
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