With all the talk of how good Trueman is - and he's clearly not having a major influence on the current game - it got me thinking about the ex Wire players who have gone on to have a greater influence in different teams.

Even though he's just been sin binned I'd say Gareth O'Brien has gone on to have a bigger influence in every club he's been at.

Arguably Kevin Brown has at Salford too.

There must be others.

Rhys Williams, Paul Sculthorpe, iestyn Harris, Tyrone Mccarthy, Andrew Gee? Sid Domic possibly?

How ever well O'Brien has gone on to do since leaving us, would anybody be happy if he was brought back to replace Austin or Widdop?

Although he’s not left Warrington, Powell has faith with Richardson. How would you feel about a Saints rejection for want of a better word following his coach instead of Trueman, who is tied up and obviously someone Radders will want to keep.

Sally incoming in 3. 2. 1.

Fortunately, we haven't had to sell any player of this calibre, since. However, I just wished we could have unearthed a few more youngsters who were as talented.
Those two seem to be once in a generation types, sadly.

David Kidwell
Brad Dwyer
Jerome Guisset
Mike Wainwright
Jon Roper

Guisset s a good shout, Louis Anderson maybe falls in to that category as well. Mike Cooper? Although fortunately he came back to us.

Nigel Vagana

I think Ben Currie and Toby King are the closest we have come to that calibre from our academy since but they're still a way off. I think both of them would flourish under Darryl Powell though and can definitely take a step up from where they're at now. Thewlis in terms of talent and self belief could well go that way but too early to say at the minute. Dean and Longstaff look good too but perhaps not that good, they definitely have the potential to become regular first team though.

That Harvey Livett looks a good player. We should sign him.

You can split this into a few categories.

1. On an upward trend with us and became stars after leaving: Nigel Vagana, Iestyn Harris, Paul Sculthorpe, Danny Nutley

2. Good for us, and continued to be good but not necessarily [ibetter[/i after leaving: Sid Domic, Nick Fozzard, Louis Anderson, Richie Myler

3. Better after they left than we had thought they would be: Michael Eagar, David Kidwell, John Wilshere

4. Had better careers after leaving than they would have done staying with us, but not moves we regret: Ian Knott, Jerome Guisset, Gareth O'Brien, Rhys Williams, Matty Russell, Brad Dwyer, Benjamin Julien

5. Left, improved, and came back: Greg Mackey, Gary Mercer, Mike Wainwright, Mike Cooper, Kevin Penny

Jon Roper? Are you sure?

Also for my list I just went off the top of my head from the Super League era. If you went back earlier, you could put Andy Gregory, Phil Blake, Billy McGinty, David Lyon and Allan Bateman in category 2, possibly Francis Maloney too. Other posters with pre-SL memories may add some more.

Ha ha for some really weird reason I got him mixed up with Michael Eagar.

I would also like to Add Nick Fozzard .

I'd have no problem with O'Brien as a cheap utility cover, if Powell wants that. He's worth more than a Latu or Asotasi any day.

Do we need it though? We have fullback cover we have halfback cover. Just unnecessary cap space under current circumstances IMO.

Sculthorpe and Harris??

I’d be disappointed to lose Trueman - he’s a very young half with plenty of experience for his age.
But he’s by no means an international-level half-back yet. He might become one, but he might not.
At the moment, he looks great in some games, but anonymous in others. The trouble is that he doesn’t (yet) have many good games against top teams.
As a Cas supporter, if I was picking our best half-back combination, at the moment it would be Richardson and O’Brien.

Brad Dwyer is getting more game time at Leeds, and playing all the better for it

If Richardson is looking good at cas it proves what a good coach Powell is.

I like Dwyer, but it was best for him that he left. He was too good to be an understudy for Clark who can do 70 minutes on his worst days.

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As a Wire supporter, I’d be pretty pist off swapping Widdop and Austin/Ratchford for
Richardson and O’Brien!

Funny that, cos Powell hauled Richardson off yesterday. I cannot remember Richardson having a good game for us. Maybe pre covid against saints which feels like a lifetime ago.