to beat st helens last week like we did to lose at wakefield, long way to go i know but its like watching dr jekyl and mr hyde with this team

Well, you get two points if you beat Saints, but none if you beat neither.

No point at all. Bit like the creation of this thread

Book falls with price for me all day long lucky to survive the axe last year... this year I predict he won’t be so lucky. Baffling team selections and Burrell is a complete waste of a shirt.

Someone please tell me the reason Ashton didn’t play was because of injury and he wasn’t dropped?...

Tried to say it was more to do with the lineups last week, but was chased away with boasts of how unbeatable Warrington are. Hull have a similar number out and are turned over by Saints this week.

Nothing is decided in February, still plenty of room for optimism for most teams. But today shows arrogance after one early season game is rarely a good idea.

We looked like the team from last year out there

Us getting beat at Wakefield today doesn't mean that we didn't outclass you last week. Yes you had a few out but so did we. FWIW today its hugely dissapointing, price doesn't have many chances left for me, I felt he should have gone before the end of last season. The last 2 games made me feel I was wrong but it's not going to take many of these for me to completely lose faith again.

How can a patched up Wakey beat a strong looking Wire?
Super league is incredible really......

No-one want that nonsense on here. Remember it's all boring and predictable.

Next thing you'll be telling us is that Salford got to a Grand Fibal and Catalans won a Challenge Cup... pah !

Your crowing last week looks a bit silly now eh boys?

One of the main reasons we looked ‘lively’ in the opening two rounds was Ashton.

Take him out again and you’ll be left with the same as last year. And that’s what got served up today.

Ha ha, SL really is one of the most unpredictable sports out there.....
Not being arrogant but as Leeds fan in some ways I prefer the uncertainty now to how it used to be. Most games were a forgone conclusion before they'd even kicked off, and there were only really the top 4 games that gave a bit of a thrill. All changed now though...

Sadly the only predicable thing is Wires inability to win a GF.

Why is that? Was it really silly to be happy with beating saints 19 nil? Would fans of every other team but us just shrug at that score?

Just a below average troll.

Anyone who thinks burrell is above Ashton in the pecking order is clueless... Oh hang on our coach does

A Saints fan lecturing us on arrogance, oh the irony.

There's many things I am, but arrogant isn't one of them.

You certainly come across as arrogant so you may need to add deluded to your to your traits.

Why was Mamo playing?
Why did we buy a promising young centre then not play him when a centre position becomes vacant?
Why do we keep playing Burrell in the 1st team when its obvious to everyone on here that he needs game time in the reserves?
Why have we dropped our most promising, exciting young player to debut in the first team since Penny?
What is Price going to do differently against Toronto against an anxious and expectant home crowd?

These questions and more should be put to messrs Price and Henderson by the press this week. As supporters of the Wire it would be nice to know that there was/is a plan behind these things.....

That's the problem with Ashton in being he plays in position/positions he'll keep getting dropped from. We would have beat Wigan if Hill hadn't gone off, beat saints, then Widdop is fit and completely change a team playing VERY well together because he's a marquee player and we've spent alot on him. For me a player shouldn't just come in unless players have played really bad. Ratchford if not needed in the halves will always be picked ahead of him at fullback. Lineham is too good an all round winger to drop. We have this massive overhyped love affair with Charnley who can seemingly do no wrong. So Ashton won't displace them unless injury. So unless widdop, Ratchford or our wingers get injured looking at this decision he won't het much game time this year

It must be frustrating but Price's dropping of Ashton is probably a good thing, if he even was dropped and not just carrying a knock. Wakefield is a notoriously difficult place to go and a place where even world class backs can be put under severe pressure. The pitch is shocking, the crowd are literally arms length from you. With a player as young as Ashton it can take only one or two mistakes to wipe out months of confidence building performances. It's probably a good thing for Ashton's long term development. Looking at the highlights of your game today the pitch looked very heavy, a great leveller of pacey players. Taking him out after two promising performances seems like good management to me. Wouldn't surprise me if you play him next week against Toronto at home, a much lower risk game for him to play in. If Price continues to do that, he can have a lot of highs without many lows which will aid his development.

Playing Ashton centre today would have been an option that would have kept the fans happy. But in Tupou and Lyne, Wakefield are very strong in the centres and he could potentially have been a weak link defensively.

There’s no doubt that you thoroughly deserved the win against St Helens but outclass is an exaggeration imo and Saints did have more players missing and more important ones at that. You played well but I thought Saints were appalling and couldn’t have made it much easier. Constant errors and penalties meant you were gifted field position without having to work that hard for it and I thought you looked devoid of ideas near the line.

I don't see how Charnley can get stick. He never receives the ball in space, usually he is against both opposition centre and winger. If he was knocking on, dropping balls or missing tackles I could understand, but I don't think he is. It's not his fault we don't have a system that utilises his exceptional finishing.