Signed a 3 year extension https://warringtonwolves.com/hughes-a-wire-until-2022/

Signed a 3 year extension https://warringtonwolves.com/hughes-a-wire-until-2022/

Very happy with that. He has had plenty knockers on here and FB.
2016 wasn't fare on him as he tried to do more work for those who was shafting it.

Happy with this - had a good year in 2018.

However I think he still needs to develop his attacking play and be consistently good if he wants to be a regular with us, too often he seems to follow a good year with an average/poor one. A fit Ben Currie obviously takes up one back row spot, Jason Clark looks nailed on for the 13 spot.

BMM will no doubt hope for a regular starting spot too and Livett will hopefully knock on the door.

He improved his attacking game in 2018, but a way to go I think.

He keeps hold of it a bit too often but realistically he has had 2 god seasons with us, the poor season in 2017 he definitely wasn't the only one. Deserves the contract for me, I think he has plenty of improvement left in him as well.

He's probably the quickest on the books, including all the backs.

Jake Mamo?

2 years may have been better. I don't like long contracts.

The kid is 26 with his prime yet to come and has been in good form for you guys last year. I hate when fans begrudge players signing longer contracts, why should rugby players not expect to get the same security we all want from our own jobs?

Easy to forget that players are human beings.

Sport is different, especially sport with a salary cap. Financial commitments to players have to be balanced with spending wisely across the squad. You may recall the Matty Russell situation? Signed on a silly long contract and we had to PAY for a club to take him of our hands as he was a dead weight on our cap.

By all means sign world beaters on longer contracts as they offer more to the team. Hughes is a decent, utilitarian player. But that's all.

As for job security, this is such a myth. Most employed people have 1 months notice - that's it. Self employed people have none. Some people have zero hour contracts. I bet the staff at Debenhams would like 3 years job security right now, or our resident taxi driver.

Best job security there is - at least a years salary, ideally more, sitting in the bank.

It’s a gamble, the club will have weighed it up. Some you win, some you lose.

I'm with Wires71 on this. Jack Hughes was good last season but I think the jury is still out on him. Three years is a long time. This is probably another symptom of the lack of quality players around, like Leeds giving Dom Crosby a three year deal. Even half decent SL players now have some scarcity power.

The problem is, we don't know the whole story. What were the discussions between coach and agent for instance ? " Leeds will offer Jack a 3 year contract at £XX next April, so you need to decide if you wish to keep him or not". Clubs are not a charity and will not offer terms that are more generous than they think a player is worth (and that includes the element of contract duration as well as salary). So barring an error of judgement by the coach, we would have to assume the club have offered a 'market price' for his services. 5-6 years ago I would agree he wouldn't have got these terms and might even have been fighting for a starting position. As you suggested, the fall in standards has perhaps also coloured our judgement on his value.

I suppose also it depends when other players' contracts are up, as you'd probably want contract expiries to come up in a staggered fashion. A risk if everyone is on a one or two year contract, is a lot of players are then out of contract together, which means a lot of them are starting to think about options elsewhere at the same time, which may not be ideal for general focus of the squad. And then if one year quite a few of them sign elsewhere then you might not want to have a mass exodus on your hands so could end up being held to ransom by others whose deals are also up.

So I can see some logic in locking some players down a bit longer.

Great business for me

I'm chuffed Jack has signed a new contract.

He's still young, 27 in January so a lot of good years ahead of him. This year he was only behind Daryl Clark on our top tacklers, and 4th in number of carries. Very hard working, and a player team mates will appreciate.

When the numbers of interchanges are going down you need more players who can go 80 minutes.

In 2017 he kept cutting inside rather than going himself or using team mates, which he has done this year. In 2017 he was sometimes moved into the centres as well, either starting there or after a reshuffle, which didn't help.

This would suggest that in 2021 our first choice second row will be Currie and Hughes. That's ok but it doesn't fill me with excitement. Currie and Bateman would. Or Currie and Livett realising his potential.

Livett is a very average player for me. Hughes’ defence gets him above Livett in the pecking order with Livett bottom of the list of backrowers we have

Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Clubs are not a charity and will not offer terms that are more generous than they think a player is worth (and that includes the element of contract duration as well as salary). '" That's why the Matty Russel contract was baffling. Granted a lucrative 3 year contract for 2017,18,19 then binned 3 games into the 2018 season under Price after the howlers at Huddersfield and Widnes. I think we will still be playing part of his wages through 2019. So the club has form for lengthy contracts for players which turnout that no other SL team wants. (I'm not suggesting it's the same for Hughes as he is a solid if unspectacular SL 2nd rower). Source: https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... xtensions/

Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Clubs are not a charity and will not offer terms that are more generous than they think a player is worth (and that includes the element of contract duration as well as salary). '" That's why the Matty Russel contract was baffling. Granted a lucrative 3 year contract for 2017,18,19 then binned 3 games into the 2018 season under Price after the howlers at Huddersfield and Widnes. I think we will still be playing part of his wages through 2019. So the club has form for lengthy contracts for players which turnout that no other SL team wants. (I'm not suggesting it's the same for Hughes as he is a solid if unspectacular SL 2nd rower). Source: https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... xtensions/

Hughes isn't Russell.

Quote ="Wires71"That's why the Matty Russel contract was baffling. Granted a lucrative 3 year contract for 2017,18,19 then binned 3 games into the 2018 season under Price after the howlers at Huddersfield and Widnes. I think we will still be playing part of his wages through 2019. So the club has form for lengthy contracts for players which turnout that no other SL team wants. (I'm not suggesting it's the same for Hughes as he is a solid if unspectacular SL 2nd rower). Source: https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... xtensions/'" I think you have over played your hand...1 example is hardly “form”. Ps I think most of us were baffled by the extension to Russell’s contract. It was obviously a going away present from TS.

Quote ="Wires71"That's why the Matty Russel contract was baffling. Granted a lucrative 3 year contract for 2017,18,19 then binned 3 games into the 2018 season under Price after the howlers at Huddersfield and Widnes. I think we will still be playing part of his wages through 2019. So the club has form for lengthy contracts for players which turnout that no other SL team wants. (I'm not suggesting it's the same for Hughes as he is a solid if unspectacular SL 2nd rower). Source: https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... xtensions/'" I think you have over played your hand...1 example is hardly “form”. Ps I think most of us were baffled by the extension to Russell’s contract. It was obviously a going away present from TS.

A lot were saying things like "I think I'll take TS's opinion on Russell over idiots on a message board".

Some odd signings then.... Taylor Prell.

Not a quote "" I read or said.

Believe me. During April/May/June when the ones wanting TS out were getting grief/banned on here.